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To me it looks like the, "we want to try him at a different position to try and develop more versatility" thing we do every TC with a couple guys. It makes sense to me, Clercius has great athleticism, we have a bunch of guys like Corcoran who can fill the roll of the blocking and playing field, but can't do much else. From the slot, Clercius can also pinch the edge with a block and release after on some plays. Plus he plays even bigger than his listed size, so if we want to make TE a thing long term, he would be a prime candidate to pass catch out of a TE alignment.

Looks right to me. could be one or two spots like major might start at the other corner, but this is as good a guess as it gets.

Yeah, and touch is far more critical in the CFL. QBs/offenses live and die with the ability to feather passes into the gaps between the LBers and DBs. I still think he's worth having around, even having on the AR. The ability to battering ram short yardage and in a real pinch, do some throw on the run package in relief is very valuable. I think he could do most of that better than strevy did last year.(low bar I know)

he doesn’t have a huge arm, but it’s enough to make the throws on the cfl field. His touch is sporadic in the mid range though. That’s probably what is being seen, poor touch to the wide side out often causes the ball to float too long making it’ll look under thrown. He’s much better throwing passes like that on the run, but having to roll a guy to make a route consistently is far from ideal.

100%. And we haven’t seen a cis qb do what the hope is for elgersma. So i’m hoping for the best but prepared to see little to nothing from him this year. His talent does warrant the time too. Could be. Which is fine. I’m not sure on terry. Thorne is a solid talent, he wasn’t going to get the pre season reps to steal a job. I totally get why he made that decision. suspended is best case tbh. We keep his rights but he doesn’t eat a roster spot.

Dare to dream. I expect his 2nd TC/pre-season to be extremely high level, that's for sure. In skelly hes throw some extremely tight window passes, which look great in Skelly. But when the contact is full and the timing just a bit more advanced, a great looking pass play in skelly, can often turn into a pick in game. And at that regular season is a notch higher than pre season, even with 1s vs 1s. He will have a big advantage when/if he takes that next step, though. The, "defences don't have enough film/experience against him" window will be larger than normal because of his experience with the Canadian game. I just hope he gets in before the end of the 4th playing with and against TCF.

He has, and he's had a bit of work at a high level of competition. But I don't expect him to do any thing in game this year.

Elgersmas arm talent is legit. I think the biggest concerns with him short term are, how much he forces the ball and how he adjusts to the D. He’s pretty damn close to a lock to be with the club this year. I could see him on the ar off the bat too. I like Wilson’s poise. Hes thrown with authority a few times and has good arm talent. But i haven’t seen progress at all. I could see the same thing happening tbh. If wilson doesn’t show good progress, it’s time to move on. Thorne is a solid prospect but i think he needs a year of seasoning. Perkins has given me some optimism for his pick up of the canadian game, which is what’s needed. The deviation in camp isn’t to the point where id cut any one right now, and i wouldn’t be married to any qb2.

While JY has some very interesting and difficult decisions to make, Condell will have an even tougher situation with pre-season. Balancing QB play time is going to be a real challenge. On one hand, Zach has a new system and a few new starters, he/they will likely need a chunk of time to gel. On the other hand, the backup QB position is clear as mud. We don't have a seasoned backup QB2, and we have 3 rookies behind that. For Zach, I would normally say 3 quarters in pre-season would be the upper limit of what you want to see. But we might want to roll a full game's worth of reps at the starters between the two games, plus a few drives on top of that. Starting the 2nd quarter is a great reset and chance to adjust calls/personnel. Terry needs a chance to play himself into earning QB2 or out of the spot, which is hard to do with less than a half of football between the 2 games. Perkins, while a rookie, is older than Terry. So he also really needs to be thrown into the fire. Can't imagine anyone wants to wait 2 years to see if he can develop. Which doesn't leave much for Elgersma, who also needs to be challenged. And even less for Thorne. Roughly, I'd look to have Zach ease out at some point in the 2nd Q to reconvene with Condell before going back in to finish and run the start of the 3rd. That gives Terry and the best of the rest time to roll with 1s and 2s against 1s and 2s. Once Terry gets his chance, I'd let them fight for reps. Those reps are limited and very valuable. Its no where near enough to get everyone enough reps. Not even enough for 3 to get enough reps. 5 QBs are to reduce load and diversify how many guys get a shot. 2 QBs aren't likely to make the PR at all, it's harsh, but whoever is on the bottom of the depth chart (I suspect Thorne) is likely to only get a real shot if someone else is brutal or gets hurt. I'm really interested to see how the battle goes between Elgersma and Perkins. And if Terry has progressed. If he does, that 2 spot is as good as his. But if Elgersma shows more of what he did in the NFL preseason, or if Perkins translates his game to the Canadian game quickly, it's going to be a real scrap. Been a long time since we had this much variability on the QB depth chart. I can't imagine we cut Elgersma and don't PR him. But just about anything else is equally as likely.

agree. Talk about dare to dream though. Agree. And if we protect kyries health maybe we see him get back to the best ball hes capable of, and in time for when the games count. That also helps us with better use of the limited DIs. With Schmek down, maybe we DI a DL. Or maybe we DI a WR to give much-needed depth, ensuring the guys stay healthy this year. (its gotta be our turn for a healthy WR core one day right?) It could allow us to carry a DI db on top of Vaval. Even if we Nat Kyrie, start Jones and Ayers, we can easily DI woodbey who is as able to fill in as a DB as a Lber. The potential with our youth, athleticism, and versatility is embarrassingly good. I bet JY is chomping at the bit.

I think its just regular moving guys around in camp. We've tried him at S, sam, and De before to get some extra versatility. I do love his nose for the ball and play-making skill. Tremendous range as well. With JSK out, I'd be working on Ayers + Smith/shay as the go-to wil/mac. And have Kyrie on the fringe. Even if we used Kyrie as the naturalized and rotated him, he is way more versatile than Ayers and still a strong teams guy if he plays a lesser role on the D. Boy, that would be a nightmare for opposition offences.

We've seen lots of discussion for positivity, but this is the overreaction to the first discussion of anything possibly negative. But by all means, carry on about only the positive. Nothing is stopping you. Or you can just whinge for the sake of it w/e. Really trying hard to replicate a Stoddard-type WR. We do seem to do that in cycles. Like after the Petermann/Simonise projects failed. This was considered a weak draft class for WR, but honestly, it had a lot of developmental talent that was available through half the class.

Nah, he's Tachinski. Sinopoli was quicker than his testing, but still drafted as a QB then converted. That was also 15 years ago, when the 2 top Wrs ran high 4.5 low 4.6. We used to see pro athletes and pro skill sets be completely seperate in the CFL draft. We aren't getting 4.2-4.3 guys, but only the least athletic WRs are putting up those 4.7-4.8 times. Sinopoli probably doesn't get the WR shot if he plays ball today. He was drafted in 11, caught his first game pass in 13, broke 1k in 15 on his second team. He played in 28 games before he caught a pass.

Could be a reinjury, tbh we won't know much more then we knew last year. I feel like he's TCF, easy guy to plug in because he knows the game and team well. He's got size, but I don't see the athleticism for him to actually move to WR.

Qbing is a football wide issue. Its worse here, because of the reality of canadian football, but it is an issue every where for sure. Nailed it. We've said and done many right things this offseason, but until I see sustained change Im not betting on it. Canadians are the back bone of every DL. You just can't carry 7 imp dl and have them take all the reps. Its sad, but schmekel was our depth. If we flipped wil, then we could rotate lawson with an imp db at wil. Not wrong lol, but we could see those guys play till some even crazier ages at this rate. I refuse to even think about next years cfl while there is football going on.

Thats a good point too. The OL is gonna be really really good. Wallace looks to have taken a big stepforward so far too. It is really deep too. 100%. Unless someone hits on QBs in this league soon, the league is going to be raiding old folkes homes for QBs. Knew going into the off season no one was gonna fix QBing problems from with in the league. Next years FA qb crop probably wont be better either. Can confirm, sky not falling. Also, the ground is not trying to escape through by way of the air any more. All clear on the western front. We have a lot of solid upgrades from last year, and an addition by subtraction. Last years 10 wins was a bit of smoke n mirrors, but on the field I expect us to be one of the most improved teams in the league. We will be dumspter diving for Wrs, and probably for DL both ni and imp this year, which is frustrating. But its still overall an A- off season.

marty york level expert hot take there. We all know we are counting on a resurgent zach and any thing less including a significant injury has us cooked, short of another zach level miracle with one of the back ups or a trade. 1-2 imp wr injuries/busts will do about the same. If either of those happen, we are probably a 5 win team. May 7-8 if it happens mid to late in the year. The Defence should be exceptional. Even if things go bad on D, it should still be pretty good. Teams too.

It makes sense, since the new play off format makes the regular season an extended pre season. Ok its not that bad, its just 18 games play off seeding now. It reminds me of the "season doesn't start till LD" mantra of the past. Where the first 1/3-1/2 of the season was like spring baseball.

It sounded like they thought ott would take him. Which maybe true, though I doubt it. I tend to think he would've been there later still. I also think if we went to WRs instead of / before going to Lbers (once again) we would've been in a much better situation. Instead of Bouliane, who has no path to being on the AR short of 6 guys getting hurt, we take one of Udoh, Ulm, or Ojutalayo (who is a better teams piece instantly any way.) Then instead of Brody clark, who is the same as bouliane but needs 7 guys toget hurt to see the ar, You could take sibley, or Cenacle. Personally, Id a taken Ojutalayo and Cenacle. Yep. At this point hes 2 years away from being a hail mary come back.

9, he’s number 9. lol, i don’t think you’d get him back here for all the protein shakes in muslce beach. We will be able to get better talent for in depth at wr and dl after cuts happen. which is really sad.

Ahh that makes sense, thanks. I expect it to be a lot of tcf offensive ni depth outside of rb is the opposite of the D. The D is highly athletic, real football players with tons of upside and good size with great versatility. The O ni depth are warmish bodies with the right passport and little else. Next year they will really have to focus on building ni skill position depth.

never mind. We brought in tachinsky at wr and fellow bison kaleb mackie mcleod. All our problems are solved 😜 Mcleods athleticism would be fringe if he was 30lbs heavier. Why tachinsky as a flyer now but not in rookie camp? smells like desperation to me. Also brought in former elk late pick and school returnee kolby hurford. Solid size and production, good athleticism. Boy what does this say about briton and jack though lol. Maybe we should try to stretch peterson and even mci into the wr spot some. I bet peterson would pick up routes real fast. He’d be nasty off the waggle too.

We lack a lawler type, but we also aren’t going to stumble on one. And it takes time to develop a wr. At this point i’d just give rhymes the bag. But it isn’t happening. Nah not every guy is a stat filler especially on the back end of the ni roster. Korny is tcf at best though. waste of any spot other than that.

boy that sucks. We don’t have a lot of ni dt depth. I wonder what zach davis the riffles kid from last year is doing. is he with the bisons now? sure should. I’d bet that doesn’t happen. For one lawson is the only guy on the roster who is a real nose. One of our rookie imp dts would have to be an absolute monster to steal that job, even then i wouldn’t bet on it happening. would’ve been nice to have kept adams, but he didn’t take any steps forward while here. schmek has made him self into a legit end of the roster ni. He was brutal as a rookie, but he improved a lot. Plus he diversified his skill set with blocking in heavy set /kick team. With his hustle, foot work, hand use, and intangibles, I think most teams would’ve converted him to a guard or C. If he picked up snapping reasonably well (which snapping to the pistol is not nearly as difficult as deep shot gun) he would be an excellent C.

expansion out of desperation. trying to expand to stave off the league dying. changes 2 years out when the league is at best year to year is beyond a hail mary