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If davis was cut tomorrow, his career would be over. I wouldnt trade mcguire for any of those back ups. Experience is not a deciding factor, when you are talking about 1-2 games worth of reps for most of those guys. 5 guys whose career totals are 19 tds, and 35 picks and out side of DD like 2-3 starts. .5 to .75 of a start average between the 4 does not make 1 experienced back up qb.

I wish I could bet on a qb shoot out between you and fajardo . I would take MBT over Vaj, and between he and Fajardo would depend on interviews. I think very highly of MBTs ability to sling it, and Fajardos ability to create. Idk if MBT has the ability to run an offense like we had last year, or any strict system. And thatd be the big difference for him. If he can run a system and not just run and shoot play ground style I think hes a guy you can win with. We dont see it as often up here, but down south you see guys semi frequently who are like that. Its the football equivalent of a AAAA player. MBT might be that, but thats his basement. He might not be a guy who can improve and learn, or he might be a guy who under a really good OC and team can turn into a star. Producing on a bad team has a lot of negative connotations. "Garbage time" etc. But If youre a QB on a dog of a team where guys coast and play for them self, where you dont have an OL or a run game, or a strong coach and system. and you manage to put up good numbers you can play. Imagine what nichols wouldve done in his career here if he had to argos OL, or running game. Or khari or any other qb. The argos in 19 won 4 games, the 2000 bombers won 7. One qb had 4142 yards, on 51% 31tds vs 23 picks in 13 starts. The other qb had 4024 yards on 67.9% 26tds vs 13ints also in 13 starts. The "other" qb, also didnt have an army of future HoFers on his roster. That 2000 team also lost in OT to the stamps, and put up 49 but lost by 2 to edm under bells starts.

We've had lot of qbs who couldn't do Jack squat down any amount. He also strangled a win out of us. He's far superior to Fajardo as a drop back passer. If you watch him for a guy who has an insane lack of reps for his age he can sling it. Our qbs last year wouldn't have don't more with the Toronto offense. Agree. But I am pretty high on Mcguire. I really wish we had pre season games.

Wow that'd be brutal for them.

Riders prized off season get lber larry Dean tore his Achilles today. Probably done for the year. Not easy to come back from at 32 either.

The hypocrisy of those guys talking about us needing to pony up when they dropped out of the running to show cfl games after like one season 20 years ago makes me really angry. How bout they put in a bid and push what tsn pays. Sn is all talk no quality content and does the minimum to support any sport and league.

Half their cfl bets prolly come from rider fans. That happens real fast with next big qbs.

Im actually pretty comfy with that group of WRs going into a 2nd year together. I think bailey and especially lawler are poised for monster seasons. I also love the depth on the DL and the versatility to rotate guys kongbo, and a couple really good depth imps.

Hes a talented guy with a knack for making plays out of nothing. I dont think hes as good as early casey printers was and I dont think he would end up as bad as late casey printers. Mr, BLM and harris are still the top tier of cfl QBs. They are more human and closer to the rest of the pack then ever before. And thats just from 2019, not including the missed season. But these are the guys who are proven commodities and who you can expect will produce at a high level. Dane evans, Fajardo, Vaj and MBT are all pretty even imo. I know a lot of people crap on MBT for putting up stats on a bad team, but we've never seen our QBs put up season numbers like his on any of our bad teams. Evans got rocked in the grey cup but for my money was the best of the 3 in the regular season. And Fajardo made a lot happen last year in his first year starting but didnt show a lot of projectability. Vaj showed more projectability than mbt or fajardo but also was the most unpredictable, and inconsistent. These guys come with moderate amounts of risk. They may produce, they may elevate to the next level, or they may bust out. Its likely imo that atleast 2 of these guys are busts this year. Theyre pick ems. Nichols, Masoli, Collaros, are the high risk high reward guys. Any of these 3 if healthy and insulated can lead a team to a deep play off run. But failing that they likely dont succeed. Arbuckle, Streveler and Franklin. Both these guys are players teams though could take over the lead of a team and step up to a mid and top tier qb. Franklin hasnt done it, and arbuckle is hurt more than most from the missed year. The will they wont they prospects who are running low on days as the every down qb with out producing. They will have a decent amount of time left on their run as a no2 qb in the worst case, but teams arent going to want to gamble next year on them as a starter if they dont prove to be 2nd tier qbs this year. Bottom tier we have the jennings, schlitz, Kilgore, davis, etc. These are back ups who are getting to the fringe of staying in the league. Guys like Mcguire have a longer leash then bottom tier guys, but mostly with their own teams. They may bounce between PR and AR or scratch. They arent guys you want to bet on, but that you hope develop into those guys. Ideally you would have a top tier guy and a back up thats tier 2-3. With a Mcguire type on the PR. But thats not the case for really any team. Every team is 1 hit away from trouble. And 2 hits away from a high draft pick. I consider the riders to be in a near identical situation to us QB wise. Collaros collapsing isnt more or less likely than Fajardo being figured out. But age and athleticism is nice to have. Personally I think Collaros is well poised to play his best ball. Career wise what happened for him after the chain of injuries and his cryptic off season talk with the riders is the best case scenario. Plus having a full year off to be as healthy as possible. The cats and argos are well insulated at QB, but dont have stars. The leos, elk, and stamps have legit mop guys but dont have a great no2. The rest of the league is even imo.

Both those guys can piss off. I think some Crow should be on the plate for these troll media types who were certain it was a merger with the cfl losing this or that. Maybe the best part of the year is that xfl3.0 the great nothing burger is over and football is about to begin. Has the xfl 3.0 folded yet?

Jennings is probably half the leagues worst case scenario right now. Not bringing him in for camp makes me think the chances of us pulling the trigger on him are very low.

At the same time the time off for vets and short intense season is going to be hell to try to stay healthy through and play at a high level. Rookies who haven't missed a big chunk of time can be a critical tool. The team that balances these factors is most likely to succeed.

Tcf can be useful as fall guys to let vets go hard and take less reps but ya this team in this situation doesn't really make sense. You don't see a lot of block shedding in hs. Short of some really good prep school vs a state contender which doesn't happen as much out side play offs. But ya he doesn't seem to have jets.

Super versatile with good athleticism. I constantly expected him to get burned when he was back at S but he held his own. Hard to imagine our front performing better than last year or adding another rotational guy while kongbo will need more snaps. But these are great problems to have.

Keep in mind that those are high-school clips for Thomas. For that level his read and discipline is tremendous. He also shows excellent explosive strength tackling. He instantly takes a lot of ball carriers from vertical to horizontal. With 2 years worth of rookie imp recruitment I very much doubt any one brought in late for camp will be tcf. I would strongly suspect these guys are being brought in for their polish and adaptive speed to the cfl game. Not monster athletes who have superstar potential.

Thats freaking awesome. SKy is the limit for a guy like him.

That sounds like him to the furthest extent. If he straightened out I would honestly take him back in an instant. That guy was wildly talented. Hes still waiting for the NFL to come call.

Yeah its tough to make that huge jump in year 1. But also if he is willing to wait it out and pay his dues if he doesnt become an instant starter this guy in year 2 could light the league on fire. And having the cfl experience is huge for the guys here. Bailey and lawler are poised for big years. Grant and Nelson are guys to really watch too. I think grant could be as good as the best of what we saw from lucky last year. Cam actually reminds me a lot of darvin adams too.

Thats 100% of who I thought of lol. He was soo slick. Those routes and hands, such polish. Too bad he coulda been a star.

It's hard for rookie wrs to excel in the cfl. But he has tremendous size amazing athletic ability and produced really well in the NFL. He's about as blue chip as an imp wr gets.

And it is exceedingly rare to find that true all downs back now, especially as an NI. A guy who blocks well, and can make gains in the passing game is huge. If you get a true no1 back from a top us school they will be able to atleast do 1 of these things. But even finding Imps who are the complete package these days is hard. You can hope to develop a skill in a guy with good coaching. And virtually all guys will come into the CFL needing that. Do you invest that time and work in a guy who is also an elite athlete and or has ratio breaking star potential or do you put it into a guy who has to be the greatest over achiever in the league to be an every game starter. His time here has been a small sample size. But he got turned inside out a bunch on pass rush. Its unlikely that he got the reps as a blocker needed prior to being a pro. This is the team to coach a guy up to block well and cover kicks though.

They have the tools the raw tools to excel at the position. Oliveira has a pretty good pedigree vs good competition as well. He and borsa have sought after rare combinations of experience and athleticism in a NI rb. If you cant understand why they have hype Idk if any explanation will do much for you. Augustine is a fairly weak pass blocker, un tested as a pass catcher, he doesnt have any experience filling a STs role, and he is with out any real strength. Hes about as slow as any rb who has carried the ball in the cfl in the past couple years. The guy has 45 carries as a pro, Idk how any one can see that as a huge edge over borsa and oliveira. 2 tcs here is his biggest advantage. But he is not by any means a known commodity. A big portion of his carries and production came late in a game after it was in hand and he busted a big run. Hes a scrappy, hard working over achiever and is a guy that can be coached up to be more versatile and useful in a back up role. But he is the definition of a replacement level NI rb. Every team in camp has a guy who is like him and we could pick up a guy with the same talent and skill at just about any point in time.

Honestly I look at his sitting a year as a blessing. He has been carrying a tremendous work load the last few years. A year off from being hit will only be good imo. I have 0 concerns about him staying in shape and being sharp. Truth. And that is a TON of insurance behind harris. You almost never have 3 guys of depth behind a canadian starter like that. Oliviera and borsa are athletic studs too. We also have demski. In the event of a harris injury or collapse we would likely see a RB by committee for a bit where demski took half of the reps and another guy took the other half. While maybe a dynamic threat like borsa would be worked in. I have reservations about augustine, but he has not been a guy who under performs. Hes an over achiever no question. I think he will end up 3rd on that back up list but hes a scrappy guy. You cant ask to be in better shape for backing up your franchise NI ratio breaker. And yeah we could always move the ratio around and bring in an Imp rb where itd be easy to make up production if all 4 of those guys failed, and harris was an issue. I think positions like qb and wr have far more pressing concern. In his time here demski has ran for 400 ish yards at a 6.5 ish yard per carry average. Borsa, oliveira and augustine are on top of that. I could see borsa working in some, he would bring another dynamic to our offense. Oliveira might bring more power but other wise I dont see us forcing either of those guys into too many carries.

100%. the 2 articles on 3dn about labatte retiring (he would be 37 and out of football for 2 years next, thats what this is) seem to have only the mildest concern for them replacing half their OL. They dont even have a lot of league back up experience. Hardrick and couture probably have more combined cfl games then their entire roster of OL. I wouldnt be surprised if neuf and gray or desjarlais combined for more too. Or if bryant alone was close to matching their entire unit. Fajardo has a big step to make going from a first year starter to succeeding consistently after other teams have a good amount of film on him in the cfl. 1 spin move and 1 pattern created a TON of their success last year. That has to grow exponentially to continue succeeding. That was their primary limiting factor before they lost half their OL. At one point in time, Rick mirer was touted by no less than bill walsh as the next joe montana. He had a better rookie year than drew bledsoe, despite taking a TON more sacks. And in that rookie year he also had at most 5 passing plays, almost never checked down, and had a gigantic split for favored side of the field. In year 2 bledsoe smashed mirers production on an epic level as mirer was never able to adapt to more than he could execute in his first year. He became a huge draft bust with 26 more picks than tds and 20+ loses more than wins. Fajardo has to over come what mirer didnt. And with out a stable OL.

Hamiltons piece reads as though he glanced over the cliff notes from the 2019 season for 5 minutes before writing said article.