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next the riders sign ward and hype him up into a medlock level kicker

glad he finally made it here, it’s good timing for us and for him. For us, it doesn’t fix our qb situation but it does deepen our talent pool and we need any help we can get at qb. That said, now that he’s signed if any one would give us a second or higher back for him in this draft class i’d take it in a heart beat. He does have a ton of talent, and I think he has a chance to be good. I could see mos falling in love with him. It would be hilarious if he was one of the first cuts though. Small chance it happens too, we have a quick process of elimination for qbs no matter the talent. if they don’t show the mental toughness and mental capabilities quickly they get shown the door. taylor didn’t see the field today, but he was giving this blank stare i don’t like, should cut him. Saw him throw a ball under arm to a coach on the side line and not to over blow it, he might be the goat

President/front office type? Yes, hes the goat in that area. Greatest combined career? Very hard to beat.

doesn’t sound like it did. This week is the half way point of the season for the ufl.

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hull is an excellent pick up for the coaching staff. Outside the usual circle of guys we’ve been using. Think it’s a serious mistake to not have a qb coach, but not much to be done about that now

he’s got very comparable wheels to lawler actually. very similar style and skill set as well. The big difference is kenny developed the polished route running and had that understanding of how to get open. That’s always the case really. Wrs are a crapshoot, far more guys with the tools needed fail then make it. Even the ones that make it like lawler almost always need a year and 2 full camps to turn the corner.

That’s a big part of it. his size is basically what’s expected, doesn’t have the athleticism to break away at the top end or separate at the break. he also doesn’t have a great get off move or route running polish to get open. Not like he’s un athletic, or bad technically at his position. he’s just kind of average at every thing save for his hands. He’s clearly got top level hands. He also played 4 years at a small school and basically put up 1 good season of production in a year and a half. A guy like that in a program like that has to do more for more years. His upside would be lawler, but he has a lot of work to do to get close to that.

stanback retires. was a lot of fun to watch run

With his injury, he is a year and a half into his career 2 years total. At this point, he is comparable to where Dobson was midway through his 3rd year. Dobson got a huge payday after that 3rd year here as well. If Wallace starts this year, someone is going to offer him easily 250k+ if not more, with what Canadians got this offseason. If he doesn't start, I think his FA floor will likely be 140-150k next year. For me, Id lock him up on that kind of money for 2 more years in a heartbeat. Dobson and Wallace are similar in terms of athleticism level, but are different types of athletes. Wallace's athleticism is much more useful at OL. Dobson is more twitchy, but gasses much more easily. Dobson also struggles to keep his power up when his weight is down closer to inline with what the CFL guards play at. This is why he dipped early from a record-setting mauler early in college to an inconsistent guy up here. He can't play that heavy, and he can't coast on a quarter of his snaps to recover. Especially when he played beside kola. Meanwhile, Wallace is the same road grader in the 4th quarter that he is in the first. It's nice to be able to blow through a DL with an explosive punch move, but its still great to be able to lock up and drive a guy out of the way. Wallace is better in space and pulling as well. I honestly don't know what to expect from us at OL. We are set up to roll extra Imps at OL, but this is a MOS team, and that does not fit his MO at all. I hate it, but I could very easily see us losing 1 or more of Vanterpool, Randolph, and some other really good young guys while we go with 3 Canadian starters and 1-2 Canadian back-ups. For me, as much as I like Wallace, he would be fighting for the C starting spot or the 6/7 ol spot. I do think Eli will be very hard to beat out of the C spot, Vibert is a good bit a head of Gabe as a C as well, and mos likes to carry 2 Cs on the AR. He also loves to carry 7 ol, but with MCI, schmekel and Clercius thats not nearly as needed. He's gotta have a great TC this year to get reps.

awe he’s dirty award to continue another year you can only learn so much from sitting and holding a clipboard. His biggest challenge is getting up to speed vs the massive step up in calibre from cis to pro. hes not going to get much for reps as the pr or qb3. He’s going to pretty quickly find him self stuck in a spot where hes not good enough to be a qb2/1 and can’t get enough reps/hands on coaching to grow as qb3/4.

New Rourke was a gamble for sure, though his high ability to reach his ceiling is much, much better than Elgersma's. Even with the injuries. It almost always makes sense to take a low-cost shot at a high upside QB. It's been an extremely long time since the QBing in the cfl was in a good place. It's certainly not the worst for his development. If he gets another NFL camp invite and preseason action, it's probably best for his development. Closely followed by if he came up here right after being cut last year. His chances of making an NFL roster are basically zero. He could make a PR, though that would leave him in a tough spot for next year, where he still won't make a roster and also won't be able to develop more on the bench. Pay-wise, yeah, he is walking himself into a minefield. By the time he is out of the rookie Canadian money range at this point, his NFL window will be damn close to closed. He hasn't made much since turning pro, and he's barely played. That's rough to dig out of.

If he doesn't get another NFL camp invite, he should be here for camp. He got a lot of workouts and no offers. It's hard to say if that's a good thing for camp, but it sure seems like a bad thing for him since he doesn't have one currently. If he doesn't have a plan to be here for camp and doesn't have an NFL camp invite, I'd be shopping his rights hard. If he gets another NFL offer, I'd be shopping his rights soft and be looking to flip him as soon as he was willing to come up mid-season. Mid-season QB drought is real. Having a guy like him is an asset to a desperate team. I'm not losing my mind over his lingering down south. The amount of time he's spent out of football and off the field, the time it's been since he played a regular-season game, all of this reduces his value to me. You expect a Canadian QB who played CIS ball to be up here fairly quickly if you draft him. Choosing to sit out for workouts, a UFL non-roster spot, and NFL combine cup holder raises red flags about his intangibles. And he needs to be a high-intangible guy to succeed. He's a depreciating asset hiding behind some smoke and mirrors. The whole thing hasn't come apart, but it isn't far from happening. It is far more concerning to me that we gambled a 2nd on this guy and didn't seem to have a hot clue about this.

yep. I wonder if the team knows that. He's getting some thing now atleast for development. Not just sitting on a couch waiting for a call and doing the odd work out.

Yep, this drought has been worse than the post season one. One of the few things you can count on in the cfl is draft is teams rushing to pick OL. Once the first one goes, we will see a run. And we will see teams reach to get them. Top end of this ol draft is pretty strong.

if not more

This would be a great time to give him a pay bump and lock him in for another 2 years or even more. but it would make more sense for him to bet on himself and play it out. especially if he has a strong camp

iirc this is wallace’s last year on his rookie deal. I would be open to moving wallace, but only for a younger equally high upside ni ol who will be under control for a while. Well that or a qb but i don’t think there is a qb on the market to make that deal. Vaccaro and henning are extremely high upside guys available. I hope that we grab one of those two.

At that point we clearly will be talking about the TC MVP, who will be cut before he can be handed the trophy. I don't see any great football names as of yet. So I'm pulling for it to be major williams so we can have some major paine gifs in chat when he makes plays

100%, this stretch is awfully slow. Vaccaro at 4th? Yes please. I'd love Henning as well. Cenacle is a make-or-break pick for scouts. His testing and knee injuries are massive red flags. 4.8 40 is turning the wrong kind of heads. Very good 3 cone, middle of the pack at best short shuttle, and declined to do the bench press or any of the jumping tests. His pre-injury unofficial jump numbers and 40 were fringy to begin with. Is he healthy? Does he have enough left in his legs to make plays in the cfl? You like his hands, size, build, and how he plays with the ball in his hands. As well as his production. Needs real polish in terms of route running, tons of talent in the kid though. It's a weak draft for WRs, but to take him high you really gotta have a good read on him as a player, person, and health wise.

Siskey didn’t give us many hints as to who the starter will be. That said, based off of our conversations with Tyler and HC A.J. McCarron – we’d predict that Corral is leading the way, with Elgersma in a close second – and Michael Hiers right behind him. Sounds like elgersma has had a pretty good camp down in the ufl as well

Before the current UFL, they did play some. Currently, the pay has not met the requirements to get the passport. Is the UFL a dead end? No. Is it a (better) pipeline to being more than TCF in the NFL? Also no. Most positions would be better off coming up here imo. Though some exceptions do exist. Specifically, QBs, TEs, special teamers, interior OL, and some defensive tweeners who'd be out of a position up here.

Idk how they run their camps down the UFL, but a 4th arm for camp would make a lot of sense. It is a shorter, earlier season so I can see not needing 5, but just 3 would be pretty surprising to me. Still, to your point, Elgersma has to be expected to be the 4th man on the chart. 99% of the time, especially in this day and age of the cfl. Yep. Even pro polish. If im looking at a guy who had a so so camp and some good pre season action, vs a guy who sat on a PR for 2 full years im gonna lean towards the guy with 2 years too. Right decision, love that guy, hope he has a brilliant post playing life and maybe coaching career. Or just volume. Especially if you need to push Wrs/Dbs. You need arms to do that.

Yep. The random chuckitius he comes down with is pretty bad. Doesn't seem to matter how many DBs are in the area; if he has it in his mind to chuck on that snap, it's going deep. OFC we want to win the cup every year. But the realistic hope for me is that we have a pre-Zach 2019 type team building again. Where the D/teams went out expecting to have to win the game every week. And won many, many games. Rebuild the team into one where every unit feels like the QB of the team with the need to propel us to a win. That way if we find a qb worth growing with, or get another older guy we have the supporting pieces to dominate again.

It's true, but there are other factors that make it less likely for us. Like, none of them were turning 38 years old when they had the comeback. Doing that in your early 30s is very different than doing it at 40. None of them had the massive list of serious injury concerns Zach has faced his whole career. Zach already had one miraculous career resurgence, and it wasn't one big injury that held Zach out or back last year. He's been held back by a big old stack of medical issues for the last 2 years. We will be giving Zach basically the best case scenario this year. More OL talent than you could shake a stick at. Seriously, our send best OL unit this year is better than the best of the last 2.5 years or so. Rbs and depth, WRs with top-end talent, and an OC that is basically hand-picked for him. I hate that we are tied to Zach; I hate even more that we have no contingency plan. I hate most that we had no real way of doing any better at QB this offseason. But it is what it is. Have to hope for betting QBing room next year at this point.