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Zach has had a couple of those type stat lines in the last two seasons. Kelly carried the way to a win in the gc, some thing Zach hasn’t. The three are absolutely in the same tier. The top tier of qbing in the cfl is not elite. No qb right now is. Any thing could happen to any of them. Play off performance isn’t cherry picking. Especially over 4 years. Cole weather? What cold weather game did Zach play this year? Defences aren’t better, you just don’t get to beat up on bad teams or teams in a bad spot. vaj improved this year again. He is still a very flawed qb but no question he improved. Zach has taken a step back for the second consecutive year and is going it be 36 next year. If you think that equals Zach being less likely to regress you’ve lost it bud. Agree. I think if you tell brown he goes into camp to fight against strevy for starter he’s willing to take a far more team friendly deal. Normally I’d say nothing will happen vets make the rules on mos teams. But as some one pointed out Willy was mos’ boy through and through. So was Nichols and big Chris. I think it’s more likely than most vets that he pulls the trigger. Though I think that’d be next year in season which could well be too late. Idk with Zach bouncing back. Eli would be a big quality of life improvement. I don’t think even Zach would know if he would have another bounce back in him or not. Ol being better would be huge. At the same time he had the greatest skill group surrounding him this last year that a bomber QB has maybe ever had. Lawler schoen Brady Demski bailey woli is insane. If he had a 2021 ol and half the threats would he improve?

1 we don’t know if Zach can. As I broke down his numbers in 9 bomber play off games are pitiful. 2 he wasn’t though. He was in a glut of 3 guys that includes vaj and Kelly. Both of whom are much younger. If he regresses or either of them progress more he isn’t in the top tier next year. I think that’s far from the safe move. The only safe move would be to bring both back. I bet you could get both for less than 600k total too. The options with strevy are unlimited. Idk if ham would pony up given how his stint there ended. But I think ott would.

I think to an extent the top tier coaches generally do that well. The don did it as well as any one I saw. He constantly found and replaced vets with young guys. Many of those vets still had meat on the bone and we with coach Ritchie at times made use of those vets. Old Dave was the ride or die with his guys, and that’s what crash and burned us after 2001. When vets left his teams they had nothing left. I think buonos real strength was finding great ast coaches, and developing/getting the most out of his QBs.

Our leading passers. Ploen is the only one a head.

Yeah, gonna feel like 9 months till then lol. Marcus crandle Cody fajardo and Darian durant won more grey cups each than 4 out of the top 5 QBs in bomber history including khari and dieter brock.

We would’ve been drastically better with that. I’d a had legs kick off as well. He’s very different now. 19 and 21 he played with no fear as his career had basically been over and he got amazing pass pro. Since then it’s struggled more and more and he’s played very choppy and un certain when under pressure. What’s worse when he throws from the pocket he is not able to hit his spots reliably with the poise issue. It is fixable, idk if he will fix it again at his age, or If he/we can fix it here or if we have the right person to do it.

So this is gonna be the whole off season discussion eh? 🤮

It’s not a double standard, it’s a standard. Walters and mos have met the standard Zach has not in the play offs. Though I think you can make a case for mos, I’d always give that guy a shot. He’s a beast and not just athletically phenomenal but his technique and football iq too. That said I’d rather have oakman right now. Likely. I wonder if they cut brown to let him explore his options. Don’t like it but I could see it happening if they don’t intend on resigning him to the kind of money he’s gonna be offered. 100%. He’s not physically imposing at all. He should spend the off season doing S&C with Lamar mcgriggs (assuming he still does that stuff.) he could put on 5-10 lbs of reasonably lean muscle between now and next tc, not lose any fluidity and gain a lot of strength.

Yea, but like I said Mack wasn’t doing jack with the draft it was all walters. He is absolutely explosive as a run jump athlete. He and Parker have the best first step in our secondary by a lot.

Grant is a beast. One of his college team mates at one point said he had the biggest squat on the team lol. Physicality could be an issue but you never know. Stranger guys are in the nfl. Teams could look at him as a package nickel vs speed teams like Miami. I’d say Brady has a 5% chance of getting a tc invite, and holm maybe 20%. Brady if he can get it more power to him. I love the guy and want to see him succeed as much as possible. Rb is always the easiest gap to fill. We could bring in some big power back or a balanced. Probably 15+ guys about to shake loose from the 2020 NCAA crop all of whom could start in the cfl, and would be a force behind our ol. A guy like lew Nichols, or Bryant Koback. Nah. His pre mafia era picks weren’t good, people will blame joe Mack but joe didn’t know jack about the draft. I’m sure those where walters picks. Also, faith ekakitie. Bennett is better than faith.

Hed be a Monster here. dudes twitchy and explosive. His ability to close is really impressive.

Even for the NFL, this is a silly notion. Ford is 5’11 188. Holm is 5’11 182. Dee Alford is 5’11 175. Dane Jackson is the same height and 180 donte Jackson is an inch shorter and also 180 Kareem Jackson is 5’10 183 etc. lots and lots of dbs in the nfl with the same or more slight build as holm. Emmanuel Forbes is 6’1 166. Half the dbs at the nfl combine this year we’re Holms weight or smaller.

Solid camp released and went back to college lost his starting job in college and wasn’t brought back this year. Disappointing they didn’t atleast bring him back. Maybe he wasn’t healthy or didn’t want to continue to try and make it.

That’s a good point actually. I hadn’t considered holm might get a look but he certainly could.

He got good chunks at times, as much as Brady got imo. He’s a good change of pace back or a good guy to use in a 2 back package. I can’t see us spending 250k+ between 2 backs, or making that work while keeping dalton/brown/improving in free agency.

Sam, dt, 3 ol, 2 wr. That’s 7. No one is gonna roll into the season with 2 ni dbs starting imo. S is an awful position to flip unless you have an exceptional ratio breaker imo.

1, Augustine is the wrong kind of back. He isn’t that get 5 most every touch grind it out back. He’s boom or bust. 2, He isnt good enough blocking or catching to be an every down back in the cfl. 3, We would need another ni to be his back up which puts us in a bad spot if Brady comes back. We’ve been starting extra nis and wasting dis half the year. If we lost Brady we’d just flip rb to an imp spot and keep Augustine to back up the imp. Lots of good imps floating around that would murder defences behind our line. Finally, Brady is not getting an nfl. Look. Keep in mind Marshawn Lynch ran a 4.4 40. Brady’s 40 is waaay too slow by nfl standards. He ran soo much inside zone stuff with few consistent wrinkles for him in carrying the ball. He doesn’t have tackle breaking power vs nfl sized front 7s. He’s gonna be 27 next year and has carried the ball 460+ times the last two years with 80 catches. Schoen didn’t even get a look last year. Rb is the deepest youngest position in the nfl. They aren’t going looking for guys like Brady with the amount of Carries he has.

Brown n Brady will be the really interesting ones this year. that and who does or might not be brought back.

We should d been up by more. Should been up by 21 or more.

BRB going to steal some valour for ni FBs. Truth. Mantra next season is gonna be, building for 25. Then building for the future. Then rebuilding again. Jk, least I hope it doesn’t end up that way.

We had 100 opportunities to win that game. Brady doesn’t fumble, Zach doesn’t throw a pick, we don’t run the clock down with a 4 point lead and 7 minutes to go, we don’t all out blitz fajardo on the td pass, etc. the fact that we again, for the second year in a row came one play short in the gc with soo many chances to win is 100% coaching. With better coaching this game would’ve been a laugher. Like the two previous times we played mtl this year. Mtl adjusted we did not, then we didn’t adjust to their adjustments. Roster management is just one aspect of the Meta problem, coaching.

I posted that break down earlier in this thread. Yes, that’s his play off stats as a bomber. They’re terrible. He maybe had 1 solid game stats wise. You’re right. He won, no one gets to bag on him. I bet if I broke down his play off stats and compared em to zachs as a bomber people’s head would explode.

I wouldn’t mind it, I’ve always liked his game. Though he’d probably run us 100k. If we could draft a guy like him for half I’d be thrilled. If we can’t and sign a guy like him I’d be happy. Well worth saving a roster spot. Especially a di.

Tbh we have guys who can do the fb thing. We just have barely used them. Imo if you’re gonna carry 7 ol you can’t carry a fb unless they are your snapper holder etc. I would love it if we drafted a big multi purpose back who can back up Brady carry the rock a bit, play fb, play some teams etc. physically some one like litre.

The size and power gain to the inside with those two is insane. Brady will be averaging 13 yards per carry lol.