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MH370

I love mysteries and cospiracy theories and this disappearing jet is consuming me.

 

Ill propose two theories (a mainstream one and a crazy one).

 

What I think happened is:

 

A catastrophic mechanical failure.  It's an incredible coincedence that this occured at the exact moment of hand off between the two air traffic control points.  This failure impacted communications and caused a loss of pressure.  This would seem to indicate a fire and/or explosion.

 

The pilot did exactly what he would do - he turned towards an area he knew had an airport he could land at.  And he immediately dropped altitude to account for the lack of cabin pressure.  (alternately, if there was a fire but no cabin breach, its possible the pilot would drop altitude with the idea he could vent the smoke). 

 

As the plane flew along, the pilots were unable to communicate due to the failure and were eventually overcome by either smoke or hypoxia.  Another plane contacted MH370 to request they contact the Vietnam air traffic control aprox. ten minutes after the transponder signal was lost and received a reply that sounded like mumbling and static (indicating to me the pilots were suffering injury or hypoxia). The plane continued to fly as a "ghost plane" until running out of fuel and crashing in the Indian Ocean.

 

 

My wild theory:

 

"Something" happened involving the pilots.  I generally reject the hijacking scenario because to take a plane without any communication from the pilots would mean it happened very, very quickly and I dont see that happening in this day and age with cockpit security etc.  We do know these pilots were prone to having "guests" in the cockpit but for a hijacker to board the plane with that intent, he's hoping that the Pilots leave the cockpit unsecure and thats just a big chance to take for a hijacker.

 

That would indicate the pilot was in on whatever happened.  The points in favour of this being an intentional act:

 

- The incredible timing of this happening at the moment after the pilots sign off from one air traffic control location and right before communicating with the next.  This creates a scenario where both control areas assume the plane is talking to the other (apparently it does happen that a pilot 'forgets' to check in when he's supposed to)

 

- The transponder was turned off.  Either a mechanical failure did this or the pilot did it. 

 

- The plane apparently travelled a flightpath that indicated intelligent control for sometime after loss of contact

 

- The plan flew in a manner to avoid radar and skirt between countries (this is important if you're trying to avoid being shot down or persued because if you're very close to a boarder and clearly a passenger jet, you might be forgiven for crossing into airspace if one country assumes you're from the other)

 

- The has been zero debris.  One could argue that area of the Indian Ocean could easily carry debris away quickly.  But the fact they have seen so much junk and debris *not* connected to MH370 indicates that this area of the Ocean would be ideal for collecting debris and if the plane crashed *something* would be found.

 

- If the plane is in the Indian Ocean, the lack of debris is indicative of a controlled ditching.  Its virtually impossible (it would be a miracle) for the plane to ditch in one piece on it's own after running out of fuel.  Pilots are trained for ocean ditching (how to time the ocean swells etc) and the plane was designed to be able to ditch.  Even with training, its very difficult to successfully ditch in the Ocean without crashing.  If the plane ditched successfully, it *had* to be done by the pilots.  If so, why was no communication attempted?  Why did no one escape in life rafts?  If its a controlled ditch, that would explain the lack of debris (ie. the plan sunk and is sitting on the bottom of the ocean in one piece).

 

- The co-pilots cell phone attempted to connect to a cell tower around the time of last contact.  Was he trying to communicate due to a failure destroying on-board communications?  Was he trying to report a hi-jacking?  Was the attempt by the cell phone to make contact simply the result of a phone being left on and repeatedly seaching for a cell signal on it's own?  We know cells are not allowed to be on in the cockpit but we also know these pilots have broken cockpit rules before (and could simply have forgotten).

 

- The so-called "Pings" that were heard.  None of the emergency locators seemed to function.  There are 4 of them that are supposed to send a signal upon impact or water contact.  However, they are not shielded and a particularly catastrophic crash could destroy them before they sent a signal.  They are also not able to function under water and could have been destroyed by water before being able to send a signal (the 4 on the Air France flight also did not function).  The Chinese indicated they heard a Ping.  This story was later burried and apparently, the Chinese actually heard themselves.  The two pings that were heard were reportedly 200-300 miles apart.  This indicates a massive crash with debris spread about which belies the fact there has been no debris.  The coincedence of these Pings is that it occured just as the life of the batteries was winding down and then stopped (which is the perfect "clue" if you're trying to convince the world the plane is in the Indian Ocean).

 

- The fact NO military seems to have picked up this plane on radar is puzzling and alarming.  If the plane suffered a mechanical failure and was a "ghost plane", how could it avoid radar contact?  If the flight was intelligently operated with the intent to avoid radar, how is this still possible?  It wasnt a stealth bomber.

 

- 20+ people on board were future-tech weapons designers for an American firm that had recently completed a project.

 

- One passenger reportedly sent a photo and text message a day after the plane went missing stating the plane had been hijacked by military and that he was being held captive on Diego Garcia, a US military base in the area.

 

EDITED to add:

 

- The Malaysian government told the Chinese they had communication between the pilots and Air Traffic Control that would never be allowed to go public.  A week later, they released a transcript that showed nothing unusual.  What are they hiding?  Their preliminary report to the UN was sealed when no reports of that nature are ever sealed from the public.

 

- If the plane was hijacked or taken for a ride by the pilots, why did none of the passengers call or message family?  This lends credence to the massive mechnical failure likelyhood.  I saw a cool story on CNN that showed it was possible to retrieve cell phone information after it had been under water for a period of time.  This is important because if something happened on board and passengers were able to take pics/video or try to send messages but didnt have a signal, that information would be stored on their phones and could be retrieved later.

 

Where the heck is MH370?

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    Coming up on 4 years since the disappearance.  March 8th. My interest has been reignited.  I just read a book about the disappearance.  So Ill make a long post with some thoughts... The firs

  • FrostyWinnipeg
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    It's been a slow news month for our plane. Best I can find. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5515207/Australian-claims-tracked-flight-MH370-Google-Earth.html

  • Well, like everything else it's the Conspiracy Theorists & especially the ones that love to blame America for everything will come out of the woodwork now.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/asia/mh370-pilot-flight-simulator/index.html

The home flight simulator belonging to the MH370 pilot had a route plotted into it which ended in the Indian Ocean, officials have confirmed.

"The MH370 captain's flight simulator showed someone had plotted a course to the southern Indian Ocean," Joint Agency Coordination Center (JACC) spokesman Scott Mashford confirmed to CNN in an email. He did not elaborate on who may have plotted the route.
The confirmation corroborates earlier reports that the device had programmed in it a route similar to the one which investigators believe the doomed flight took on its final voyage.
1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/asia/mh370-pilot-flight-simulator/index.html

The home flight simulator belonging to the MH370 pilot had a route plotted into it which ended in the Indian Ocean, officials have confirmed.

"The MH370 captain's flight simulator showed someone had plotted a course to the southern Indian Ocean," Joint Agency Coordination Center (JACC) spokesman Scott Mashford confirmed to CNN in an email. He did not elaborate on who may have plotted the route.
The confirmation corroborates earlier reports that the device had programmed in it a route similar to the one which investigators believe the doomed flight took on its final voyage.

So how does he knock everyone out? Airport 77 like?

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13 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

So how does he knock everyone out? Airport 77 like?

There is a depressurization button in the cockpit.  He can actually turn off the oxygen and everyone would slowly pass out.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/asia/mh370-crash-landing-report/index.html

(CNN)Missing plane Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was plunging toward the sea with no one in control when it made its last satellite communication, new analysis reveals.

"The really important news in this report is that the flap found in Tanzania was stowed," he said, referring to the flaperon that washed up off the East African country in June.
 
"Therefore there was no way this airplane was being flown by anyone. It was out of control, ran out of fuel and spiraled into the sea at high speed."
A Malaysian government document obtained by New York magazine in July cited a FBI forensic examination that showed the pilot of MH370 conducted a flight simulation on his home computer that closely matched the suspected route of the missing Boeing 777.
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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

I'm sure Tighar would do it.

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Ummm

The interesting takeaway from this is experts now believe the plane crashed within a 25,000 square KM area north of the search site.  They searched 120,000 square KM.  Hopefully the governments will get on board with conducting this smaller search asap.

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I dunno bout this the pings should have led them to roughly the spot where it went down.

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29 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I dunno bout this the pings should have led them to roughly the spot where it went down.

What pings?  From the black boxes?  They searched for the pings immediately but the black boxes dont have the power to send pings through thousands of feet of water if you're not in the basic location of the crash.  The issue is, they dont know exactly where the plane went down because the transponder was turned off.

27 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

What pings?  From the black boxes?  They searched for the pings immediately but the black boxes dont have the power to send pings through thousands of feet of water if you're not in the basic location of the crash.  The issue is, they dont know exactly where the plane went down because the transponder was turned off.

The pings from the satellite communications. That's how they knew where the plane was going.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis_of_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_satellite_communications

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Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said:

The pings from the engines. That's how they knew where the plane was going.

The issue is that the aircraft turned off their transponder but was tracked on radar in a routine manner by certain nations.  Thats how they knew the general direction of the plane after it turned around and had turned off its transponder.  But eventually it flew beyond the radar capabilities.

What you're referring to is the ACARS system which is basically an online messaging system that relays status of the aircraft to the maintenance people.  Its not really used for tracking or anything like that.  If the routine transmissions arent received in a specific period, ground messaging can ping the aircraft to confirm the connection.  So for a period of time the aircraft was relaying these routine messages and/or requesting "log on".

But these messages arent radar and they arent transmitting the planes coordinates.  What investigators did was measure the response time of the messages between the satellites to figure out how much further away it traveled to try and determine where it went down.  And obviously, that was not an exact science.  There were disagreements with the data and determinations. 

So in essence, there was nothing that was pinging the planes location on radar.  Its a guessing game.  Which they have, thus far, got wrong.

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http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/11/news/mh370-search-resume-us-ocean-infinity/index.html?sr=twCNN081117mh370-search-resume-us-ocean-infinity0545PMStory

Months after the underwater search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was called off, an American company is offering to resume the hunt for the missing airliner.

Ocean Infinity, a Texas-based firm that specializes in seabed exploration technology, told CNNMoney on Friday that it has submitted an offer to search for the remains of the Boeing 777 that disappeared more than three years ago with 239 people on board.

The company declined to reveal the exact terms of the proposal, but said it's willing to "take on the economic risk of a renewed search."

The group said the company expects a "fee" for the search only if it is successful in finding the aircraft's wreckage.

4 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/11/news/mh370-search-resume-us-ocean-infinity/index.html?sr=twCNN081117mh370-search-resume-us-ocean-infinity0545PMStory

Months after the underwater search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 was called off, an American company is offering to resume the hunt for the missing airliner.

Ocean Infinity, a Texas-based firm that specializes in seabed exploration technology, told CNNMoney on Friday that it has submitted an offer to search for the remains of the Boeing 777 that disappeared more than three years ago with 239 people on board.

The company declined to reveal the exact terms of the proposal, but said it's willing to "take on the economic risk of a renewed search."

The group said the company expects a "fee" for the search only if it is successful in finding the aircraft's wreckage.

Surprised its not TIGHAR and i bet they would go during an American winter.

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24 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

So the Australian government concluded previous searches were in the wrong area.  They have a new area to search which this company, Ocean Infinity, will do.  And they have newer and higher tech underwater drones to do it with.  They can get $20 million- $70 million if they find it but have to do so within 90 days.  They must be pretty confident.  Let's hope it works out...

The cockpit voice recorder likely will be of no help.  But the Data recorder should be a lot of help.

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Coming up on 4 years since the disappearance.  March 8th.

My interest has been reignited.  I just read a book about the disappearance.  So Ill make a long post with some thoughts...

The first post of this thread outlined by two theories.  I said most likely it was a mechanical failure and my "wild theory" was pilot suicide.  We have some more information since then and Im leaning stronger to pilot suicide.

I actually hate to say that because I dont want to assume the Captain murdered everyone without more evidence.  And the mechanical failure accounts for *some* of the weirdness.  But it just doesnt fit.  So Ill update my two thories:

Mechanical Failure:

- The last verbal communication was 1:19am.  The transponder was lost at 1:21.  For it to be a mechanical failure it means an incredible coincidence of something happening that severely damaged the communications systems within that two minutes.  Almost immediately, the aircraft began a slow turn back and adjusted altitude, possibly as high as 45,000 feet and then back down to normal.  It dropped very low near Penang where one of the pilot's cell phones pinged a cell tower. 

- There are two possibilities for mechanical failure - depressurization and fire.  If they suffered a sudden depressurization, the pilots would immediately turn back and drop altitude to allow passengers to breath and to prepare for a quick landing.  While the plane turned back, it did not drop altitude.  In fact it increased.  If the sudden depressurization allowed the pilots to make an immediate turn back but then over-came then (perhaps their oxygen was not working), you have a ghost plane scenario.  However, the aircraft made as many as 8 course corrections.  The plane would have continued on auto-pilot to its programmed destination and then held until running out of fuel.  Surely the pilots did not program an odd route that ended in the South Indian Ocean as part of an immediate plan to land quickly.  In fact, programming the flight computer takes times.

A more likely depressurization scenario would be a slow depressurization.  This happened on a Helios flight a few years ago.  Its somewhat terrifying actually.  In that instance, the flight had been reported due to a hissing sound coming from a galley door.  Ground crew did some testing which included pressurizing and depressurizing the cabin.  How it works is, there is a knob in the cockpit that reads "manual" and "auto".  Its to be on "auto" which results in the plane automatically maintaining cabin pressure.  In this instance, after their testing  ground crew left the knob on "manual".  For some reason, the pilots did not catch this during their pre-flight checks.  So the cabin never pressurized.

As they ascended, everyone was slowly starved of Oxygen without realizing it.  In the passenger cabin, oxygen masks automatically drop and a warning message in english is announced when the pressure drops below a certain amount.  This happened.  So the passengers donned their masks.  It provides about 20 minutes of oxygen.  In the cockpit, not realizing they were suffering hypoxia, the pilots did nothing and passed out.  The passengers would have been unaware that the plane was not being controlled and would have slowly passed out after about 20 minutes.

Of course, this did not impact communication equipment and the plane was never lost on radar.  When the pilots would not respond, fighter jets were scrambled.  They observed passengers unconscious, one pilot unconscious (the other they could not see) and one person, shockingly, walking about the cabin.  This was one of the flight attendants and he was using a portable oxygen canister which has much more oxygen in it.  He entered the cockpit and waved at the fighter jets before sitting at the controls.  Amazingly, he was a student pilot, though not trained on a large passenger jet.  Regardless, it was too late and the engines failed due to lack of fuel and crashed.

If this happened on MH370 it *might* explain an odd route programmed into the computer if the pilots were suffering hypoxia.  It might even explain them turning off the transponder.  But it doesnt explain the multiple course changes and even the programming and turning off the transponder would be an odd thing to do based on how little time (mere minutes) of usable consciousness they'd have.  And of course, the pilot sounded perfectly fine when he radio'ed at 1:19.

Depressurization doesnt fit.

Most people who subscribe to the mechanical failure scenario believe it was a fire.  The plane was carrying a lot of lithium batteries which have caused fire before.  The problem with the fire scenario is, fires dont put themselves out and aircraft generally crash within about 20 minutes of a fire being detected.  A fire would essentially have had to occure in the equipment bay and take out the communication equipment.  It would have to do so during that two minutes after last verbal communication. 

A fire might explain why the pilot would climb to 45,000 feet, to attempt to starve the fire of oxygen.  It does not explain why or how the plane would continue to make course changes and end up in the Indian Ocean.  Keep in mind, SATCOM was *not* turned off.  So a fire would have had to attack specific communication elements that would render the plane invisible but miss SATCOM.  And not impact any other elements of flying the aircraft.  Plus, put itself out and leave the plane perfectly air-worthy Highly unlikely.

That leaves only:

Malicious Intent:

- Hijacking.  Highly unlikely  A hijacker would have to gain access to the cockpit.  And even if they could time it perfectly to happen in the dead zone between signing off Malaysian ATC and before signing into the next ACT), they'd have to access the cockpit and subdue the pilots without any mayday call.  Pilots have ways of conveying messages without verbal communication (changing transponder to squawk a hijack code).  All passengers were reportedly cleared of suspicion after the fact.

- Pilot suicide.  This is really the only possibility that fits everything we know.  And here's how it happened.

The captain suggests the co-pilot take a break.  Not unusual.  He signs off Malaysian ATC.  He then turns off the transponder and begins a turn back.  The co-pilot would be locked out of the cockpit.  Its possible the Captain would allow the passengers to survive but it seems unlikely,  The plan flew for another 7 hours or so and you'd essentially have 238 people including the co-pilot and several engineers trying to break into the cockpit.  Its very very hard to do but with that kind of time and motivation, you never know.  Plus, you'd have every person on board trying to make cell phone calls (only one cell phone pinged a cell tower) and you'd have to hope no one has a SAT phone.

More likely, the Captain donned his oxygen and depressurized the cabin.  His climbing to 45,000 feet would be to put the passengers out fast, likely 30 seconds.  Oxygen masks would still drop but remember, it only allows 20 minutes of air.  And even less at higher altitudes as the masks are not designed to force air into your body.  This was a middle of the night flight and usually cabin lights are dimmed and temperature set warm to encourage sleep.  So imagine waking up to a commotion, confused and suffering low oxygen...if yu even woke up at all.  Especially with English not being the primary language for most passengers.

With the passengers taken care of, the Captain skirts between countries.  He doesnt know for sure he wont be spotted on military radar and in fact we know he was.  But he's relying on no one knowing what the blip is and not taking it seriously. 

The low spin around Penang is interesting.  Its the Captain's home town.  Was he taking a look at his hometown?  That when the cell phone pinged.  It did this because the airplane was low enough to connect to a cell tower.  There is no evidence a call was made (its possible it was attempted but unsuccessful).  But this implies an attempt by the Captain to communicate.  Even if his transponder was "broken" and verbal communication impossible, he still at the SATCOM which was operating fine.  He never attempted to use it.

He skirted nations, making appropriate course changes as needed until satisfied he was not detected.  He then programmed a southerly route into the computer and let the Auto Pilot take over.  The proposed route by investigators indicates the plane flew generally along established waypoints.  Most likely on auto pilot. 

The question is, did the Pilot remove his mask and allow himself to slowly pass out from oxygen, did he stay conscious until the plane crashed or did he pilot it and attempt a controlled ditch?

The recovered debris indicates flaps were not set for landing.  This *likely* means a crash although it isnt certain. Engines never failure at the same time as they burn fuel at slightly different paces.  So one flames out.  Autopilot is able to adjust to accommodate this.  When the engines begin to fail the back up power unit comes on.  This makes sense as Satellite received a log-on message indicating a power reboot (probably when the engines flamed out).  When both engines are out and there is no power, the RAT deploys (the "fan" that drops from underneath to provide basic power, famously used in the Gimli Glider situation).  But the plane would be unable to sustain itself and would disconnect autopilot, eventually stall out and death spiral into the sea.

If the Captain was at the controls, he could glide the plane for a significant distance and attempt a controlled ditching.  He might do this if 1) he wants to die but cant bring himself for whatever reason to just crash 2) to try to disappear the plane by allowing the body of the craft to sink intact. 

Pilot suicide it is.

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On ‎3‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 10:09 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

Coming up on 4 years since the disappearance.  March 8th.

My interest has been reignited.  I just read a book about the disappearance.  So Ill make a long post with some thoughts...

The first post of this thread outlined by two theories.  I said most likely it was a mechanical failure and my "wild theory" was pilot suicide.  We have some more information since then and Im leaning stronger to pilot suicide.

I actually hate to say that because I dont want to assume the Captain murdered everyone without more evidence.  And the mechanical failure accounts for *some* of the weirdness.  But it just doesnt fit.  So Ill update my two thories:

Mechanical Failure:

- The last verbal communication was 1:19am.  The transponder was lost at 1:21.  For it to be a mechanical failure it means an incredible coincidence of something happening that severely damaged the communications systems within that two minutes.  Almost immediately, the aircraft began a slow turn back and adjusted altitude, possibly as high as 45,000 feet and then back down to normal.  It dropped very low near Penang where one of the pilot's cell phones pinged a cell tower. 

- There are two possibilities for mechanical failure - depressurization and fire.  If they suffered a sudden depressurization, the pilots would immediately turn back and drop altitude to allow passengers to breath and to prepare for a quick landing.  While the plane turned back, it did not drop altitude.  In fact it increased.  If the sudden depressurization allowed the pilots to make an immediate turn back but then over-came then (perhaps their oxygen was not working), you have a ghost plane scenario.  However, the aircraft made as many as 8 course corrections.  The plane would have continued on auto-pilot to its programmed destination and then held until running out of fuel.  Surely the pilots did not program an odd route that ended in the South Indian Ocean as part of an immediate plan to land quickly.  In fact, programming the flight computer takes times.

A more likely depressurization scenario would be a slow depressurization.  This happened on a Helios flight a few years ago.  Its somewhat terrifying actually.  In that instance, the flight had been reported due to a hissing sound coming from a galley door.  Ground crew did some testing which included pressurizing and depressurizing the cabin.  How it works is, there is a knob in the cockpit that reads "manual" and "auto".  Its to be on "auto" which results in the plane automatically maintaining cabin pressure.  In this instance, after their testing  ground crew left the knob on "manual".  For some reason, the pilots did not catch this during their pre-flight checks.  So the cabin never pressurized.

As they ascended, everyone was slowly starved of Oxygen without realizing it.  In the passenger cabin, oxygen masks automatically drop and a warning message in english is announced when the pressure drops below a certain amount.  This happened.  So the passengers donned their masks.  It provides about 20 minutes of oxygen.  In the cockpit, not realizing they were suffering hypoxia, the pilots did nothing and passed out.  The passengers would have been unaware that the plane was not being controlled and would have slowly passed out after about 20 minutes.

Of course, this did not impact communication equipment and the plane was never lost on radar.  When the pilots would not respond, fighter jets were scrambled.  They observed passengers unconscious, one pilot unconscious (the other they could not see) and one person, shockingly, walking about the cabin.  This was one of the flight attendants and he was using a portable oxygen canister which has much more oxygen in it.  He entered the cockpit and waved at the fighter jets before sitting at the controls.  Amazingly, he was a student pilot, though not trained on a large passenger jet.  Regardless, it was too late and the engines failed due to lack of fuel and crashed.

If this happened on MH370 it *might* explain an odd route programmed into the computer if the pilots were suffering hypoxia.  It might even explain them turning off the transponder.  But it doesnt explain the multiple course changes and even the programming and turning off the transponder would be an odd thing to do based on how little time (mere minutes) of usable consciousness they'd have.  And of course, the pilot sounded perfectly fine when he radio'ed at 1:19.

Depressurization doesnt fit.

Most people who subscribe to the mechanical failure scenario believe it was a fire.  The plane was carrying a lot of lithium batteries which have caused fire before.  The problem with the fire scenario is, fires dont put themselves out and aircraft generally crash within about 20 minutes of a fire being detected.  A fire would essentially have had to occure in the equipment bay and take out the communication equipment.  It would have to do so during that two minutes after last verbal communication. 

A fire might explain why the pilot would climb to 45,000 feet, to attempt to starve the fire of oxygen.  It does not explain why or how the plane would continue to make course changes and end up in the Indian Ocean.  Keep in mind, SATCOM was *not* turned off.  So a fire would have had to attack specific communication elements that would render the plane invisible but miss SATCOM.  And not impact any other elements of flying the aircraft.  Plus, put itself out and leave the plane perfectly air-worthy Highly unlikely.

That leaves only:

Malicious Intent:

- Hijacking.  Highly unlikely  A hijacker would have to gain access to the cockpit.  And even if they could time it perfectly to happen in the dead zone between signing off Malaysian ATC and before signing into the next ACT), they'd have to access the cockpit and subdue the pilots without any mayday call.  Pilots have ways of conveying messages without verbal communication (changing transponder to squawk a hijack code).  All passengers were reportedly cleared of suspicion after the fact.

- Pilot suicide.  This is really the only possibility that fits everything we know.  And here's how it happened.

The captain suggests the co-pilot take a break.  Not unusual.  He signs off Malaysian ATC.  He then turns off the transponder and begins a turn back.  The co-pilot would be locked out of the cockpit.  Its possible the Captain would allow the passengers to survive but it seems unlikely,  The plan flew for another 7 hours or so and you'd essentially have 238 people including the co-pilot and several engineers trying to break into the cockpit.  Its very very hard to do but with that kind of time and motivation, you never know.  Plus, you'd have every person on board trying to make cell phone calls (only one cell phone pinged a cell tower) and you'd have to hope no one has a SAT phone.

More likely, the Captain donned his oxygen and depressurized the cabin.  His climbing to 45,000 feet would be to put the passengers out fast, likely 30 seconds.  Oxygen masks would still drop but remember, it only allows 20 minutes of air.  And even less at higher altitudes as the masks are not designed to force air into your body.  This was a middle of the night flight and usually cabin lights are dimmed and temperature set warm to encourage sleep.  So imagine waking up to a commotion, confused and suffering low oxygen...if yu even woke up at all.  Especially with English not being the primary language for most passengers.

With the passengers taken care of, the Captain skirts between countries.  He doesnt know for sure he wont be spotted on military radar and in fact we know he was.  But he's relying on no one knowing what the blip is and not taking it seriously. 

The low spin around Penang is interesting.  Its the Captain's home town.  Was he taking a look at his hometown?  That when the cell phone pinged.  It did this because the airplane was low enough to connect to a cell tower.  There is no evidence a call was made (its possible it was attempted but unsuccessful).  But this implies an attempt by the Captain to communicate.  Even if his transponder was "broken" and verbal communication impossible, he still at the SATCOM which was operating fine.  He never attempted to use it.

He skirted nations, making appropriate course changes as needed until satisfied he was not detected.  He then programmed a southerly route into the computer and let the Auto Pilot take over.  The proposed route by investigators indicates the plane flew generally along established waypoints.  Most likely on auto pilot. 

The question is, did the Pilot remove his mask and allow himself to slowly pass out from oxygen, did he stay conscious until the plane crashed or did he pilot it and attempt a controlled ditch?

The recovered debris indicates flaps were not set for landing.  This *likely* means a crash although it isnt certain. Engines never failure at the same time as they burn fuel at slightly different paces.  So one flames out.  Autopilot is able to adjust to accommodate this.  When the engines begin to fail the back up power unit comes on.  This makes sense as Satellite received a log-on message indicating a power reboot (probably when the engines flamed out).  When both engines are out and there is no power, the RAT deploys (the "fan" that drops from underneath to provide basic power, famously used in the Gimli Glider situation).  But the plane would be unable to sustain itself and would disconnect autopilot, eventually stall out and death spiral into the sea.

If the Captain was at the controls, he could glide the plane for a significant distance and attempt a controlled ditching.  He might do this if 1) he wants to die but cant bring himself for whatever reason to just crash 2) to try to disappear the plane by allowing the body of the craft to sink intact. 

Pilot suicide it is.

Thanks for that.  Very interesting.  I am still leaning toward aliens, but you made me at least re-think my position.

  • 4 months later...
2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

 

The problem I've always had with this is why is the plane's last known radar hit shown as being west of Sumatra island but the satellite ping arc starts east of the island.  Assuming catastrophic event the ping arc is pretty close to where the plane disappeared but if it was deliberate action to go west and the radar hit is acccurate then why is the ping arc not farther west?

 

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