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  1. You've got to think being the "star QB" is pretty infatuating even if it is not the NFL.  Very good salary, profile and probably the most security of any CFL position.  Not many have succeeded in the "cross over" between leagues.  Was Flutie the last QB to accomplish this?

  2. I'm still searching high and low for a replay of the Bombers/Argos game.  Can't imagine the "average fan" showing any interest in game replays so TSN is effectively putting a great asset in mothballs by cutting off it's diehard fan base from re-watching CFL games.  I can somewhat understand control of the live-streaming but why lock up the replays???  Wonder what the actual viewer numbers for this resource are on TSNGO?

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    I suggest if the Bombers would have signed Glenn, they would have had an excellent shot at 3rd in the West and BC would end up in 5th looking up at them.  Playoff revenue would have easily paid for Glenn's salary.

     

    To deprive BC of a player of Glenn's capabilities would be awesome, but at what cost?

    How about starting with our 1st round draft choice, Goosen? That is a high cost.

    But we can't stop there now can we? Because I tell you what, BC can afford to throw more in trade that we could have, so I believe they would have got him anyways.

    We may have driven up the bidding, but since we had our starter and BC didn't, they would not have backed down,

     

    People forget that there were literally months on inaction on the Kevin Glenn front before the draft and before Wally began to worry about Lulay's shoulder.  I believe that had Walters taken the initiative he could have gotten Glenn for less than what Desjardin was asking.  Desjardin had to be nervous at the inaction and as a first year GM he didn't need the **** storm that Glenn was kicking up.  Don't know what it would have taken but the Bombers clearly had lots of expendable assets at their disposal as many of them are no longer with the club.  How about Watson, Volny, Cauchy, Suber and the rights to Chris Matthews....something like that would have looked good to Ottawa and would have had little effect on were the Bombers are now....just speculatin'

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    I suggest if the Bombers would have signed Glenn, they would have had an excellent shot at 3rd in the West and BC would end up in 5th looking up at them.  Playoff revenue would have easily paid for Glenn's salary.

    And put my Willy a year behind for a playoff birth and early exit with KG. No thanks, good chance we make the playoffs this season and end up with a real #1 QB for years.

     

     

    I Didn't say anything about starting Glenn, just possessing him would be enough to keep B.C. out of the playoffs.  You're very insecure about "your Willy", aren't you?

     

     

    You do realize that the Grey Cup is in Vancouver this year, right? Ever been to Vancouver? There's a lot of things I could there rather than go see a loser football team. No, it's good for the CFL that Glenn is there. Very good. 

     

    The Bombers have been the dregs of the CFL for a few years now and they need to have a fewf "me first" seasons before they start making charitable football decisions that benefit the BC Lions.

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    I suggest if the Bombers would have signed Glenn, they would have had an excellent shot at 3rd in the West and BC would end up in 5th looking up at them.  Playoff revenue would have easily paid for Glenn's salary.

    And put my Willy a year behind for a playoff birth and early exit with KG. No thanks, good chance we make the playoffs this season and end up with a real #1 QB for years.

     

     

    I Didn't say anything about starting Glenn, just possessing him would be enough to keep B.C. out of the playoffs.  You're very insecure about "your Willy", aren't you?

  6. I think Banks was a big deal when he was signed as he was a "name player" and Walters was just getting his feet wet as the permanent GM so he wanted to make a bold move.  Unfortunately O'Shea probably doesn't give a crap about any of the "optics" and has found better and younger positional players to take his place so Banks is no longer needed.  It's now up to Walters to save face and get what he can for Banks while trying to extend Banks career with another team.  Hopefully he gets a fair shot with Ottawa.  It's a tough call all around because they used Banks to create credibility for the new regime but ultimately Wally was probably right about Banks expiration date.  Always trust in Wally.

  7. The scary thing for other CFL teams is Drew's upside. He'll keep getting better & better as he gains experience. . 

    This is true, Willy has tremendous upside but for how many years do the Bombers actually have him under contract and what are his NFL ambitions?  If Collaros had or has NFL ambitions and he generates interest I imagine Willy will have the same opportunities as he's a model of a classic NFL QB.  Who's to say Willy will even be here after 2015 and how far can the Bombers ascend in 2 years???

     

    With the new CBA I suppose 5 year contracts are a thing of the past?

  8. It's kind of an unwritten rule in the CFL that you don't pluck first year Canadians off a practice roster.

    It's such a small league, if all teams agree on a practice any "unwritten rules" should be quickly turned into "written rules".  Avoids confusion and misunderstandings.

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    I'd rather have Willy and the first round pick over Glenn.... it just wouldn't of made sense to give up that pick just to get him. Long term we are better off with two guys who can hopefully play for us in the next 5 seasons.

    For BC it was a no brainer... Lulay is done and Glenn will buy them at least two more seasons.

    Not saying Glenn had to play in front of Willy in order to deprive BC of his services, backup would have be fine and that would have given the Bombers a much stronger QB tandem than they have now. Bombers had months to work a deal before the draft but were obviously not negotiating with Ottawa.

    In hind sight could have offered Watson or Pencer, Renaud and any number of replaceable starting imports they planned to cut anyway. No one can say what it would have taken to get Glenn out of Ottawa prior to the draft but the result could have been Joey Elliot taking snaps for the Lions yesterday in place of Kevin Glenn.

    So you would burn a draft pick, delay the development of our own young guys, potentially create a QB controversy all to spite BC?

    seems reasonable...

     

     

     

     

    I'd rather have Willy and the first round pick over Glenn.... it just wouldn't of made sense to give up that pick just to get him. Long term we are better off with two guys who can hopefully play for us in the next 5 seasons.

    For BC it was a no brainer... Lulay is done and Glenn will buy them at least two more seasons.

    Not saying Glenn had to play in front of Willy in order to deprive BC of his services, backup would have be fine and that would have given the Bombers a much stronger QB tandem than they have now. Bombers had months to work a deal before the draft but were obviously not negotiating with Ottawa.

    In hind sight could have offered Watson or Pencer, Renaud and any number of replaceable starting imports they planned to cut anyway. No one can say what it would have taken to get Glenn out of Ottawa prior to the draft but the result could have been Joey Elliot taking snaps for the Lions yesterday in place of Kevin Glenn.

    So you would burn a draft pick, delay the development of our own young guys, potentially create a QB controversy all to spite BC?

    seems reasonable...

     

     

    No, never said that.   I'd offer up the kitchen sink before a draft pick though.  Bombers have around 30 new players this year so in the off-season they had plenty of expendable capital to work with.  As it does not seem that Ottawa was getting any offers for Glenn's services I believe they would have accepted less if a deal would have been made well in advance of draft day.  I don't believe Walters bothered to try and that's the rub.

     

    BTW  Lions just beat Calgary handily with their backup QB....think about it.

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    I'd rather have Willy and the first round pick over Glenn....  it just wouldn't of made sense to give up that pick just to get him.      Long term we are better off with two guys who can hopefully play for us in the next 5 seasons.

     

    For BC it was a no brainer...  Lulay is done and Glenn will buy them at least two more seasons. 

     

    Not saying Glenn had to play in front of Willy in order to deprive BC of his services, backup would have be fine and that would have given the Bombers a much stronger QB tandem than they have now.  Bombers had months to work a deal before the draft but were obviously not negotiating with Ottawa. 

     

    In hind sight could have offered Watson or Pencer, Renaud and any number of replaceable starting imports they planned to cut anyway.  No one can say what it would have taken to get Glenn out of Ottawa prior to the draft but the result could have been Joey Elliot taking snaps for the Lions yesterday in place of Kevin Glenn.

     

     

    Pretty safe to say the cost was a first round pick, what they asked for from the beginning and what the cost ended up being.

     

    Not sure why it is always assumed you can dump your cuts on someone else for a player or other considerations with value.

     

    It's always worth a try.

  11. I'd rather have Willy and the first round pick over Glenn....  it just wouldn't of made sense to give up that pick just to get him.      Long term we are better off with two guys who can hopefully play for us in the next 5 seasons.

     

    For BC it was a no brainer...  Lulay is done and Glenn will buy them at least two more seasons. 

     

    Not saying Glenn had to play in front of Willy in order to deprive BC of his services, backup would have be fine and that would have given the Bombers a much stronger QB tandem than they have now.  Bombers had months to work a deal before the draft but were obviously not negotiating with Ottawa. 

     

    In hind sight could have offered Watson or Pencer, Renaud and any number of replaceable starting imports they planned to cut anyway.  No one can say what it would have taken to get Glenn out of Ottawa prior to the draft but the result could have been Joey Elliot taking snaps for the Lions yesterday in place of Kevin Glenn.

  12. Now I wish we had traded for Glenn... between Montreal and BC we would have been a lock for the playoffs.

     

    This is rational strategic thinking. The Bombers would have improved their playoff chances dramatically if they would have "deprived" BC of Kevin Glenn's services.  With Glenn as their "permanent" backup BC will cruise into the playoffs even if Lulay does not contribute this year.   The Bombers will have to pray for weaker teams to fall but that at best is a long shot this year.

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    One thing to consider in all of this is the psychology of the decision making process and how a coach or scout's ego comes into play when choosing which players get cut. Ie. McManus supporting Brohm over Hall. If there is a competition between two players a coach is almost always going to go with "their guy" so that he is associated with the success that player achieves and is thus validated as a "wise judge of talent". For other coach's to override and choose Hall over Brohm would have reflected poorly on McManus's judgement and nobody has big enough balls to do that. Unfortunately for Max, Joe Mack's opinion was not sought.

    A good example of this is Marcel Bellefeuille sticking with Aaron Kelly. Just thankful he was willing to give up on Boltus eventually.

    Or..... they kept these players because they performed better.......

    Wait wait wait... Hold on... They can actually DO that?! Wonders will never cease...

    And ill say that while max did get into a lot of games last season and developed some experience (negative as it was..) Its not like willy and brohm are wide eyed, wet behind the ears cfl rookies..

     

     

    Both Brohm and Marve are wide eyed, wet behind the ears CFL rookies.  Neither has played a down.

     

  14. One thing to consider in all of this is the psychology of the decision making process and how a coach or scout's ego comes into play when choosing which players get cut.  Ie. McManus supporting Brohm over Hall.  If there is a competition between two players a coach is almost always going to go with "their guy"  so that he is associated with the success that player achieves and is thus validated as a "wise judge of talent".   For other coach's to override and choose Hall over Brohm would have reflected poorly on McManus's judgement and nobody has big enough balls to do that.  Unfortunately for Max, Joe Mack's opinion was not sought.

     

    A good example of this is Marcel Bellefeuille sticking with Aaron Kelly.  Just thankful he was willing to give up on Boltus eventually.

  15. Maybe Dell will stick around town for a bit?

    As for Hall... nieswander showed more and he still doesn't have a team...

     

    Not true.  Hall went head to head with Nieswander last year in a game and came out on top in every category.  If Max only won one game last year that was it.

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