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Makes total sense...he definately looked like he didnt know what he was seeing or where to go with the ball...

There has been zero...only time a new guy grabbed a spot right out of the shoot is because we had no incumbant coming back and poor PR management with nobody developing....but he will bang his drum with no real basis for it People use that too.much as reason for guys getting tossed away...it was no issue at all...many were victims of the old boys club and a coach's odd reasonings

They havnt got legit chances tho...and the vetting of the fit and culture match should been done prior too for the most part...so that argument is somewhat hollow If uts the Adams I think it is I am stoked about this ...im traveling and just saw the transaction and havnt delved into it but i think its the dude

Yeah we are lucky we have exceptional front line Canadian talent for the most part...but the guys who aren't good enough to be the defacto starter are not interchangeable as equal no matter what people here believe or how much Osh says they are all starters After the first quarter our coaching should have pulled him if not for a few plays the game...was clearly he was hurt and xouksmt perform And go watch 4th quarter how our defensive front was gassed...Guys flailing trying to tackle..Briggs and even WJ on that Kelly drive grasping at air...nothing left in tank to pursue...and we all know qhy that happened Yeah...an injured LB with no business being out there...and our American dB playing for our vet DB who should have been out there..the one who has seen it all and was a key reason we won our last cup 3 yrs ago now Damn those poor roster decisions....again

Exactly...if u all gaga over just the Canadian aspect support your USport...junior or amateur leagues Best players should play within the ratio requirements...regardless of birth. anything less doesn't cut it..and truthfully we already have to accept lesser talent with ratio as it is...that's a fact...too bad a lot don't grasp that

probably in a better spot without Chad Kelly...That much I can say....But they are still loaded with talent....some of which very envious of...and they roster it well.....guess we shall see....like every team right now seem...or did....interpret how you wish....bring up the post in question as I have better things to do than go back and pick things out of posts where I not even sure what comment you referring to...no offense, but I know I have never said he needs to be fired....I did say tho if things continue and we fall flat....for the same reasons than yup...things need to cange be it from the Boss's aboe him telling him....or moving on...All good coaches loved by everyone eventually wear out their usefulness and get cooked.....just the way it is

Support how? I Support the best 7 should start..100 percent Kramdi isn't good enough when there are better options...be it American or Global...not that he's Canadian...if he was a Yank as you put it...and vying for that spot he likely isn't even on the roster actually...his BC actually solidifies his roster spot as he adds the over all Canadian roster fulfillment....I get it...you think all Canadians are on par..that's your choice What's the Neufeld issue tho...he should have been our MOL candidate last yr And yeah we have 3 other DT that are Canadian to use over Thomas...but none those 3 would Crack another teams starting lineup...and 2 likely wouldn't even make a roster...FOx...an import tho would And they beat us for the Grey Cup....what's that say other than there many ways to skin a cat and be successful....and if not for poor coaching by the Argo staff in and leading up to the east final they would have been back...as they were the better team than the Al's...good chance too that if it was a rematch they would have took us out again with what we rostered in that game...and may have been a beat down

hopefully this yr thats true....seeing as nobody was jetisoned yet, they may actually doing so...And I bet that came from above...Also the scouts s and Assistent GM's I am sure wont pubically say it...but get a lil pissed at their hard work and time spent...some of it yrs in the making get shipped out of town with nary a chance to prove anything..let alone grow on a PR

with 70 percent o these peeps...The Old Canadian cause its the CFL dammit...hahahaha revealed works too.... yup...it did happen....I remeber it vividly...then was kicked right in the nuts as a crual joke as he lollygagged right back

I just find it interesting...as well as comical that people like to cherry pick any negative comment and twist it...I never once said fire anybody...I have stated numerous times Osh doesn't need to be canned...nor I want him canned and support many of the things others do...but...I will comment and stand pat on flaws..he has a few very significant ones that have hurt us in big ways...and repeatedly...and will continue until it's addressed...people see reg season wins ...Grey Cup appearance and all is roses...but it's not unless you are satisfied with complacent ideals and in the end..failure...last 2 years ended in failure...who cares we had the best record.. the yeah buts...oh yeah...the best culture here...etc...etc...apparently the last 2 yrs teams with lesser records and a poorer culture beat us...plain and simple..why is that? And truthfully we were lucky and escaped with the 2nd cup...we only dominated in the first...we were hungry...had some youth injection...we had depth and solid rotation...and that dominance was apparent And this narrative I cut down Canadians...well I was a born Canadian...and hold Canadian citizenship...but I am also educated enough and involved enough to know from what I still do in the game that majority of the Canadians in the league are of lesser talent level than their American counterparts...save from the elite players...sorry if that hurts your pride...but sometimes truth and reality stings. When you look at our lineup right now and realize we could dress an all American dline...and that it would be superior to one with Canadians Thomas and Schmeck on it...infinitely better...but still ramble on that it wouldn't...more Canadians are better.....I just don't get the logic...we don't need to do that but you all know damn well we will...and we won't be our best version of ourselves we could be...every player on the roster should be pushed every training camp...every practice...every day....regardless of games played. So flame away now on your takes on things...I would expect nothing less than that from some of you

Yeah...I said if it's not an open spot with no incumbent...a rookie doesn't get the opp to push out a vet...do you not read?? So for Christ's sake right back at you for lack of general comprehension

It would be weak...and sorry you can't grasp that save for the top end of Canadian talent that's available...the remaining that make up the roster are inferior...it's just a fact of life..

For most part...they are...there no denying that but due to ratio some don't get to play. And also yes you should be concerned by starting more than you need to if they are not the best option..especially when you don't roster guys (imports) who you can freely rotate in for an extra Canadian and not worry about the ratio...and make your game roster deeper...and better. If you seriously think we can't find or bring in a player better and cheaper than Kramdi...Thomas/Schemckle...Gauthier...Briggs when he was here..then you are literally insane

can return too as well correct?

if I was a betting guy would say It's Mitchell....or Wilson....then again they may go with someone who has had no press....not really showed anything all camp but like for some particular reason...and possibly not from being best talent, and they be largely ignored in the scheme....Offence basically is that one spot so not expecting a world beater guy brought on, asthat doesnt seem to be how we integrate...and certain Lofton gets the nod at RT ...again as we seem to rely on not giving a true rookie a shot unless we have no choice....Interior I think whoever we put there we will be fine....we have the option of being O.K...as well as being dominant....wonder which option we choose....that being said I hope and think we just go with 1 extra oline guy this year as 7 is a waste...I'd rather we use that spot on a Canadian for defence/teams to fill out the roster.. Defence is a crapshoot now due to injury's and am prepared to be dissapointed with what we do...and if we roster more than 5 capable Dlineman this yr, I will be utterly shocked...but it will be a good shock....I bet we will see Haba and WJ flanking fox....and Thomas/Schmeck and Hubert as rotation...and that would be just pathetic

People fail to realize that when this regime started...it was a mess...and Miller grabbed the whole pile of steaming crap by the collar..and said from this moment on this is what we are gonna be...this is how we are going to do things..and this is what we will be about....MOS came into his interview and was sure asked his philosophy etc...but was also asked can you do what we are wanting...same with Walter's....and they liked what they saw and decided to give a young guy his chance...it wasn't the other way around...and truth be told I'd be more worried if Miller and Walter's were to walk away than Osh...we'd be just fine with a new coach as this regime wouldn't insert a buffoon...this highly respected coach had one foot out of door...and likely would have been gone if not for upper management suggesting to him to make a few changes before our run..which he smartly did but took long enough doing it..this turn around was a team effort...but it started at the top and was filtered down...it's comical to think many think it was a bottom up thing...but understandable when very few here have ever been in the room and or had dealings with management and how teams...successful teams where people have to answer to someone operate...just look at what happens when they don't...Hi there Chris Jones for example...I shudder to think if Osh was given 100 percent control of everything.

People like to think osh runs the kingdom...he doesn't...not how sports hierarchy works...well any for that matter....he has to answer to people above him and yes...at times follow a directive and fall in line....not the other way around...to think otherwise just proves many don't have a clue He's the face of the organization so to speak ...but every face is controlled by something...

Forgot bout him. I still have some optimism too...it has initially looked different...and we actually brought in some legit talent..that being scared the injury issues scare the crap out of me into falling right back into that complacency and familiarity thing we leaned on too much...and listening to Osh talk on the Bonfire clip...made me feel even less optometric...I hope some the studs we brought in really push the bar all week and in the home preseason game...and make it impossible not to be kept and push some dead weight either onto the PR or right out the door...if we don't...we will be making a buttload of changes for next yr Grey Cup at home run...and that likely won't end well...make the bulk of the transition now

yup...keep your head in the sand too....to each his own

any reports on how he has looked?

we had garbage management...garbage players....garbage environment.....it was a collective revitilization....not the work of one guy...save for that stooge Mike Kelly we had compatent coaches...tho Burke was in over his head as a HC but thats a product also players...coaches NOT wanting to come here....Walters deserves a heck of a lot more credit than he gets...same with Miller....he created the atmosphere organization wide that also cultured and created the environment....the "culture" here isn't a new concept....it is here NOW but we didn't re-invent the wheel. This loyalty to vets/foot soldiers and at times can...and has worked in reverse too...I know with 100 percent certainty that Woli was gonna walk away, but if not for some intervening by a few players...and assistant coaches he opted to give it another stab...why you think BOLO walked?....groomd and ready for 2 yrs, and come a big game didnt even step on field as 3 other guys higher on the totem pole who could barely play let alone make a differnce in the Cup kept him on the sidelines...who blames him from running away...there have bee others as well Do I have a bias against him?...forsome things yeah...I do and rightfully so....winning glosses over many things in sports....but eventually it gets exposed, and if one doesnt change....you see the results...0-2 now....and counting

sports its fail....but also....u do repeat it too...as they say...and for us they been going hand in hand....and about to re-introduce themseleves it's looking

2...when the loss can be atributed to almost the exact same issues/reason for most part Prior to the Lawson injury I was thinking/feeling that this may be the yr where we actually show significant change due to a combo of skill/age/usefulness......now.....sinking feeling and this will have a ripple effect because of it as to why some guys are rostered...some on PR and sadly a couple out right cut...god I hope I am way off base...but history show......and they say...if you dont learn from history youdestined to fail.....so I wont be shocked if the season turns out the xact same way...I'd rather go 10-8...make playoffs and run the table with youth and guys cutting their teeth so 18 games in...they know whats going on..as opposed to 15-3...limping into playoffs with an older tired out team....with no depth players, and fail...likely from more dumb decisions.... the actual Boss's...Miller and Walter's need to say...'ok...look your ideals have failed us 3 straight yrs now" this is how we gonna move forward....You buy in and off we go...Hi FIFO....you balk and say nope.....See ya thanks for the memories This team will not fall apart and become Sask East if Osh leaves....And Like he says hinself....the players run the room and police the culture...not him....Another coach who isnt a complete tool/fool/Mike Kelly clone can maintain whats been erected here...People put too much credit and belief that he is the Magic Tonic...There are probably 90% of the guys on the roster who have played for a coach they would say they would run into a fire for....and there will be others after

his non answers...seeing no reason to change course...etc..etc...can almost be sickening....and yup...same ol same ol...He talks about not being good enough....and looking into why...and not settle for accepting...but does exactly that. If Jake was to answer that question his answer would be...accept in the fact if u can stick on the roster...you are garuanteed a role....regardless if you are the best

haha...oh yeah...true... Thing is with after camp cuts....you can't go off the "ya but" nobody grabbed this guy..that guy...teams invest time and money in their own off-sesson recruiting, needs, fit etc....so they will give thir guys time....also a guy we may have cut could have offered more of what cut them for...but not elsewhere...it's not us cut and dried as apples to oranges