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Zontar

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  1. 39 minutes ago, johnzo said:

    c'mon, give the Democrats a break, orchestrating a massive undetectable immigrant voting conspiracy is hard work!

    As hard as running "sanctuary cities" and giving them health care and drivers licenses ?

  2. 1 hour ago, do or die said:

    With more details on insightful outreach policies, I'm sure...

    Theres the broad public, national appeal then theres the dubious, slimy, street level, committee level politicking. Done by every party , every election.

  3. 19 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    Incredible how the bullshit you spew gets proven wrong and you still manage to find a way to shove your foot deeper into your mouth. That's an impressive level of cognitive dissonance.

    Trump hyping black employment numbers as an outreach tactic instead of leftist "Trump is a racist and hes gonna put you back in chains"  is BS ? Youre not paying attention..

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    2 hours ago, do or die said:

    Hey, Pence is actually a stable......uh, cardboard cutout.

    Funny, watching Pence step up to the podium, at last nights Trump press conference.....turned to the wife and said "lets see how many times Pence finds a way to praise Trump's leadership".  
    Turns out it was 5 times, in just over three minutes.   And as at most Trump PC's......Donald didn't stick around to take questions. 

    Supporting the Pres in public is kinda in the VP employee handbook. Youve probably noticed it over the years.

  5. 1 hour ago, pigseye said:

    Hillary would just be sad. Biden through out some names back in November, Sally Yates, Stacey Abrams, Jeanne Shaheen and Magie Hassan, obviously all women, which is what the Dems want. 

    My money is on Kobluchar.

  6. 2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

    Virtue signalling to white progressives or what Trump does, virtue signal to white supremacists.  But yeah, the "woke" are just awful.  Lets appeal to the racists, right?

    Irony is the only people who care about woke garbage is affluent white liberals in the professional class.Its like their own language only appreciated and understood by them alone.

     Blacks and Latins, whom the Democrats consider their base and therefore have to chase down and mobilize, have no use for it.

    Warren and Sanders, in particular found out the hard the way and it cost them .It also cost them white rural support, who couldnt care less about the right pronouns etc either.

     In Warrens case it cost her everything.

  7. Hillary or any VP becoming president because of Biden's problems is a perfectly valid question to raise and you know it.

    In fact it will among the dominate issues in an election should Biden be nominee.

  8. 10 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

    We were talking about Biden, not bloomberg... 

    It's alright, there is no shame in watching fox news.

    We were talking about trying to fluff off the reemergence of Hillary as a Fox talking point and conspiracy theory when it's a common notion accross the spectrum.

  9. 9 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    Democratic nominee should pick hillary as running mate just to watch the right's heads explode. 

    Own the regressives!

    Like there's a possibility Biden wont nominate a woman who wasn't sufficiently "progressive" and woke to virtue signal to their white big city voter base? Essentially guranteed.

  10. 8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

    Oh yeah... saw that on fox news. Oddly the only place that I saw that...

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/hillary-clinton-bidens-vp-john-sununu

     

    For someone who rejects mainstream media you echo a lot of the talking points...

    Right like Hillary finding a way back into the race theorizing hasn't been common currency in media for years. Only on Fox, right ?

    A needn't be Hillary to be cynical. Any running mate chosen knowing full well Biden has begun descent into dementia but still campaigning him as a viable president is reprehensible.

    Biden lost it on another constituent today in Detrot. Averages one awkward blowup in public a month now. But he still has months and months of campaigning and debates still to,come. A person in his state can only take so much.

  11. 46 minutes ago, pigseye said:

    Going to be interesting to see who Bidens VP is as they will likely end up President before Bidens first term is over. 

    Hillary presidency via side door ? 

    "A Tragic Presidency Cut Short" followed by "The Accidental President" knowing full well from the start Biden was sliding into senility is beyond cynicism even by 21st century political standards.

  12. 29 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    Once again, point missed. The point isn't believing anything just because it is reported. It's about knowing what is true and what isn't. You don't have to watch media all the time to know when someone is being untruthful. For example, global news was on the other day and the lady interviewing an expert was engaging in leading questions trying to get certain answers. It's not that the expert was being untruthful, just he was being led to answer in a certain way. But you can parse through what was being said and take the truth and discard the nonsense. 

     

    And again you make it partisan. It's not about being partisan, it's about being pragmatic. If a "leftist" idea is good it's good. If a right wing idea is bad it's bad. Nothing Trump is doing is good, and what the left is suggesting is far superior. But you keep on pretending that leftists are the real danger. 

    Yes,there are fashionable conservative ideas that are bad.  Never argued otherwise. Don't think I ever labelled myself a conservative anyway but...

  13. 8 minutes ago, do or die said:

    Well, one could really use a source of "trustworthy" news.  Open to suggestions.....

    The American Conservative offers up as many or more anti Trump critiques than pro. The Federalist, mostly pro Trump but offers good analysis of what chicanery Democrats are up to.

    On Twitter journalist Michael Tracey critiques both sides and fun to read

    Can't say I didn't try..

  14. 6 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    Which is exactly why nobody here takes you or your comments seriously. You're pathetically biased and most importantly, you can't substantiate any of your shitty opinions rationally or objectively.

    You suffer from a seriously severe case of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. It's ******* embarrassing reading some of the crap you post and realizing you're a fellow Canadian. It's sickening.

    Get well, soon.

  15. 11 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    Your problem right there is the rejecting corporate media... as if independent media is any better. There is even less vetting process there. 

    The key with consuming media is to be able to tell which is truthful and which is not. Which requires the ability to think critically. 

    So again, you use the fox news playbook of deflection and false equivalence. Stop thinking of it as a team sport and be objective. 

    But instead you are all in defending shitty people with shitty policies because you hate and fear change and progress. 

    Seriously I vote right of centre every time, but it's ******* hard right now because of how truly awful conservative actions have become, and Trump embodies the worst of the worst of it.

    You're the expert on Fox. I don't watch it, obviously you do and that's your choice. I don't know what more I can say.

    If you think msm corporate news and media is trustworthy I wish you luck.

    And if you're really tired of business as usual right of centre stuff that doesn't actually conserve anything or reverse the damage by leftism then we have lots in common.

  16. 15 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    Good Christ, the richness of this comment coming from you. Every attack you've launched against the "evil progressive leftists" has been backed up by literally nothing.

    Maybe the worst case of Dunning-Kruger I've ever seen.

    Anonymous posters whining about politics in a football site isn't the same thing as  US public servants backed up by a biased media looking for scapegoats for political gain in an election year and not offering remedies themselves is it?

    I have long ago stated socialism and leftism is wrong and why it's wrong.

    Specifically suggested travel bans and barring entry to combat virus spread and was scolded "that doesn't work".

  17. 4 minutes ago, do or die said:

    If you go back a couple of pages, I pointed out in detail, the Donald's default approach and tactics that he applies to all situations.   During this crisis, all we have had, so far is the same garbage. 
    Why would there be a shortage of critics?

    I do agree with the opportunities for general leaders statement.... but unfortunately we have a President who spends all of his time attacking everybody and none of it collaborating with anyone. 
     

    Criticism is fair game. More than fair. But at some point the criticism has to be backed up with something. This is a pandemic not an argument over capital gains tax policy.

    Perfect time for an anti Trump insurgency inside the party or for Biden or Sanders to come up with something. If they have anything better.

  18. 3 minutes ago, do or die said:

    Sure, but Trump is currently the President, the only guy who can implement anything. 
    He claims to be like Harry Truman (The buck stops here)
    Well, he could have a sign like Harry did on his desk.  Although in his case it would read - The buck stops over there.

    Overall, some empathy, and honesty would go a long way, instead of all his current bragging, deflecting and political gas-lighting.   As well as accepting some input from others, who may actually know more than he does.

    On that note, do you seriously think that this supreme narcissist could accept anything from anybody..... that he couldn't take credit for himself?

    A real leader strives for truth, unity, clarity, and provides reassurance to all, in the face of challenges.  

    Unfortunately, Americans are stuck with a fake leader.

    Yes, ultimately he is responsible.  But difficult times are opportunities for genuine leaders to emerge too. None yet. No shortage of critics though.

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