Zontar
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8 hours ago, bb1 said:
I think we can blame all the governments for not shutting down international travel after the Wuhan situation became known. But its all moot now and we have to try to work and fight this together no sense blaming its too late.
Except it's not moot in Canada as travel to and from hasn't been banned. How does a country " flatten the curve" with potential cases coming in ?
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1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:
In a national emergency? Ofcourse the media’s role is to pass on information to the masses. Holy.....
Which is exactly what they have done
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10 minutes ago, Noeller said:
The media is reporting what the government and health officials are saying. That's their job. The media isn't to blame... At least in Canada. That Fox News thing is pretty typical for them. They're a ******* mess, but everyone already knows that.
Media's job is to be stenographers for the government?
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7 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Not looking for an example of what has NOT been said. You have said that media is pushing the “banning travel from other countries is racist” theme. Please cite an example.
Said travel bans were an over reaction. Racism towards China in general. "Wuhan " term disappeared almost overnight at China's request.
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2 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Again, could you cite an actual example of this?
Canada not barring travel from China or Europe which is arguably worse. More or less a collective shrug from Canadian msm
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31 minutes ago, Noeller said:
I've not seen one instance of this in Canada........not calling you a liar at all, but I'd really like to see examples. I've become a bit tired of "the media" taking blame for delivering the bad news. If anything is to blame it's SOCIAL media, which goes largely unregulated and misinformation abounds. Mainstream media at least has rules and, for the most part, evidence-backed information rules the day.
Not blaming media for bad news but if the key is modifying human behaviour all the stuff they are peddling now is barn door horse advice. Inquisitive ness was absent when it was clear the situation was directed in China yet not a peep about barring travel because that was an "over reaction" and quite possibly racist.
And they're still not seeing anything wrong keeping airports humming and processing travellers from China with touch screens and questionaires.
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20 hours ago, Mark H. said:
Three responses to COVID 19 are happening:
1. This is all being blown out of proportion by (insert favourite scapegoat: media, liberals, scientists, etc) and people taking precautions are acting like wool producing mammals.
2. We're all going to die! Let's buy as much stuff as possible! Where's the hand sanitizer!
3. Let's stay calm, trust the science and be proactive
The challenge: having dialogue with all three groups.
Don't let corporate media off the hook. They chuckled at the thought of extreme measures and told us not to worry because it was no worse than the flu.
And then prioritized worries about racism or cultural insensitivity instead of warning people and calling China and Canada's relationship with China to account.
If there is such a thing as journalistic malpractice here you go.
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1 hour ago, pigseye said:
I'm going to enjoy watching this next generation fall flat on their faces and I won't be reaching down with a hand up.
The smart tech jobs we told them to get are outsourced. Wages driven down. Tell them to despise the history of their own country. Traditions to be mistrusted and ridiculed. Eat cockroaches. Gonna be a helluva ride.
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1 hour ago, do or die said:
What was notable about the Trump speech was.... what wasn't in it
Anything about hospital preparation and large scale community mitigation, in front of an expected tidal wave of new patients
Accurate updates about testing and the state of test kit production
Clarity about how cornovirus treatments would be covered. Health insurers, which met with Trump just days ago, scrambled to rebut Trump’s claims that plans would cover coronavirus treatments at no cost, clarifying that they only committed eliminate out-of-pocket costs for testing. Insurers will cover coronavirus care, but have not yet committed to waiving costs for treatment.
Clarity about the new travel bans. Hours later, the administration had to walk back Trump’s assertion that his new travel bans would also affect cargo coming from 26 European countries — a move that would of screwed up the pharmaceutical supply chain and made testing even more difficult. At least two test kit companies are based in European countries.
Too much confusion, period. Travel bans are one thing, but the needed information for people at the national, local and community level has to be open, accurate and clear. So far, no dice.
Protect the economy
Or draconian measures to protect health which will slow down economy.
Trump picks the former and he will be accused of murderous neglect and not caring.
Choose the latter he will be accused of abuse of power and tanking the economy.
The "good guys" know this and will play both ends to middle for as long as possible,...cheered all the way.
Epic levels of cynicsm.
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23 minutes ago, johnzo said:
oh yeah and while I'm singing the blues here on morningbigblue, lemme just add that I've lost a chunk of my retirement savings in the past week or so and since Trump was all over owning the bull market he can own the crash too.
but yeah, it's just a game to me.
(and I'm lucky enough to be someone in the USA who even has retirement savings and I've still got a ways to go before retirement so this is just like a mild periwinkle blue instead of a deep ugly camo Signature Sweater blue, but still, a bummer)
Blame China. Blame economic integration with those monsters that has stolen National self suffiency.
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1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:
Good thing I'm not as stupid as you are, then. Get well soon, boomer *****.
Very progressive. Our new society is in great hands.
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1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said:
Does the same echo chamber count?
Love how you use "echo chamber" without a shred of irony or self awareness.
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1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:
Ignoring the content is so you. Hilary is right by the way. Or do you support the US admins lack of preparedness and lack of support. Are you openly hoping for people to get sick and die? What’s wrong with you ?
Hillary knows so much of what she asks depends on state regulations and private sector cooperation. Instead she's trying to personalize for the "good guys".
And if Trump went full federal on this she and her media pals and stans would be screeching " overreach", abuse of power! dictator ! time to impeach!"
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1 minute ago, do or die said:
By you?
Well, yeah, I'm in love with fascist dictators, so..
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1 minute ago, do or die said:
Because we were all put on this earth, to suffer first....
"Anonymous staffer " with a Hillary tweet for good measure. Beyond parody.
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7 minutes ago, do or die said:
I let others decide that.
Oh, it's been decided.
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5 minutes ago, do or die said:
I am in a certain age bracket and have a existing pulmonary condition.
This is somewhat cutting into my relax and chuckle mode.
Seriously, are you simply some kind of bot? The act is wearing a bit thin....Yeah, just a the laid back gin drinker makin a few observations is all, folks..
Didn't play out a long time ago ?
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2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:
What political gain is there for @do or die
1. For China to re assert prominence by shirking blame and turning responsibility in other govt's esp rivals like US
2. To remove Trump by panicked voters who think layers upon layers of govt and regulations were invented in 2016. and get things back to normal. In power.
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1 minute ago, do or die said:
You should of given it to me. Now all I have is gin and popcorn...
Well, you said you were well versed and seen it all. Exploiting a crisis for political gain should be ringing a few bells.
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So as long as it's just the sick and elderly that are vulnerable.. Relax and have a chuckle and Go Biden Go ?
Great society you have in mind
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26 minutes ago, do or die said:
So turns out that historically, the colonial oppressors, robber barons, evil popes, fascist regimes, religious fanatics, and racists, et al., were just a bunch of wide eyed leftists.
Again, right out of the playbook.
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8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:
Oh I'm serious. Taking a sick delight at political misfortune of an opponent over a crisis that transcends ideology at the moment.
Pretty bizarre and twisted.
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2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:
What is wrong with you? You're either maliciously trolling or have some sort of serious defect. Discussing news is not chearleading panic. You're a disgrace. Why you're tolerated, is beyond me.
Stay optimistic. Maybe the elderly people in your life won't die. Maybe you'll start thinking this is bigger societal issue beyond a US president you don't like.
2019-20 Grey Cup Champs Off-season discussion.
in Blue Bomber Discussion
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So what's stopping provincial govts from giving loans.
Quebec gave cirque du soleil 200 mill and it's US owned.
Divide contributions between BC AB SK MB ON QC.
What am I missing here ?