Mike

There is a cap for drafted players, Global or Canadian. There is not a cap for American players, whether they are a rookie or not. You are mistaken on this.

This I wholeheartedly agree with.

What would be the downside of Poncius/Vanterpool and then leaving Broxton to go back to LT? We don't need 37 players to replace 1.

Significant changes doesn't have to mean quantity. As JBR said, you could literally take Moxey out, give someone else there a try and even just slightly below league average play would be a massive improvement for us. I don't know who is suggesting a TON of changes, I think people are just hoping that we can make the changes that are very very obvious. If they benched Moxey and Bryant, I think that would go a long way.

I don't understand anything you ever ramble about but I guess my question would be "if these guys are practicing with us everyday and the coaches think they are nothing then why are they still here?"

whatever it was lol touche Just tells me that the veterans are untouchable.

Giving up 52 points and then making zero changes to the starting defense tells me everything I need to know.

Why do you always believe depth charts directly correlate to talent ? The purpose of a practice roster is to have a developmental system in effect, which means that while these players may be equally or more talented to the veterans ahead of them on the depth chart, it would be on the backs of those players in combination with the coaching staff to develop to a point that they can be more than just a talented football player. How do they understand the system? How do they acclimate to professional football? How do they build habits? How do they compete? I don't really understand the point you're trying to make ... these players aren't finished products, they never are. We don't expect a quarterback to come in and be game ready as a pro, you've said as much yourself with Elgersma but it seems like you ignore that concept for every other position and I'm not really sure why. So what Booch is saying is if you're not going to give those guys an opportunity to prove they understand the system, prove they've acclimated to pro ball, prove they've built pro habits and prove they can compete then why do you still have them here? It'd be one thing if the players they're behind the DC are are performing, which is why we're not talking about replacing Willie or Lawson or Major or Griffin or Pokey or Brady or Broxton ... but we've got lots of underperformers and we've got players who have been here since May learning pro ball. If we believed in their talent enough to sign them to contracts, maybe it's time to put them on the field and see if our initial assessment was correct.

This is never anything any of us are ever going to be able to measure, but I also wonder how much of an effect on our talent the overall approach in the locker room has had. It's easy to say that Walters and company aren't bringing in enough talent, but what are they being handcuffed by? Agents aren't ignorant to this stuff, they know just as well as anyone else that Winnipeg isn't a team where you're going to get an opportunity. It's easy to say we should target a guy like Eberhardt compared to a guy like Tim White and I wholeheartedly agree, but does a guy like Eberhardt want to come here? Or is it obvious that he's not going to get an opportunity for an elevated role in the lineup? Are we going to pay a guy like that when all we seem to do lately is pay guys for what they've done in the past? It's easy to say get more players we can develop, but how many players are turning down offers for a practice roster spot because they're well versed in the concept that that's incredibly unlikely to lead to an opportunity here? For anyone new to the CFL, a practice roster spot is a low-salary stepping stone to hopefully more of an opportunity but what if the players are realizing that opportunity isn't going to come here? It's easy to say draft better talent, but same thing. Is Connor Shay a bust? It's impossible to even tell at this point. We have no idea because we don't give him any opportunities. When Jaylen Smith is a free agent at the end of 2027, is he going to walk to a team that's going to give him a better opportunity? Our franchise has become the retirement home, lifetime appointment type environment. That's the biggest problem of all and to me, that is why this all falls primarily on the coaching. The coaching staff has built that. The coaching staff has allowed that to be what they're content with. The other areas of this team aren't without blame by any stretch but when poor performance doesn't equate to consequences, nobody's playing for their job (or paycheque) and players are being allowed to coast off of resumes, this is what happens.

This is exactly it. We're not going to get away with blaming the players for everything. I'll use the 118 yard MFG return as a perfect example ... did the players execute on that play? Absolutely not. Was it smart coaching to put that many OL and DT on the field in that situation? Also absolutely not. We can't use that as an example of just poor execution, it's also terrible coaching.

He’s decided O’Shea won’t be blamed. That’s it.

This is embarrassing to watch no OL, no WR, no depth, no playcalling, no support, no secondary, no linebackers, no accountability

Our secondary is all kinds of awful

We don’t have anywhere near enough personnel to help ANY QB succeed but Dru has been cheeks tonight regardless

Our deployment on both sides of the ball is absolutely baffling we pay and play off just vibes baby

Ottawa is gonna blow this

Team ******* sucks, same **** as always under O’Shea … nobody shows up unless they feel like it because there’s never any consequences if you don’t

Right? Legit talent brings those in

Just kidding Jake Kelly for MODP

I mean, whatever. Who even cares at this point, he doesn’t use anything he has at his disposal. What’s it matter if we give him another weapon to ignore. Shocker Jake Kelly.

Credit where credit is due, you were right … Tommy Condell ******* sucks He’s calling this game like he’s trying to prove Ottawa wrong instead of trying to win

I know people are going to rip on Dru Brown but what the hell are we starting three American OL and paying a running back a quarter million dollars a year for if we’re not going to play bully ball when we’re inside our own three yard line

I said it at the beginning of the season and I'll say it again ... Dinwiddie is really being exposed as a guy who was carried by the high level of talent in Toronto. When you hand him the keys, he's too stubborn and egotistical to realize he's making mistake after mistake after mistake. I don't agree with a lot of the things O'Shea does on a weekly basis but the one thing I'll always give him credit for is that he gives our franchise credibility in the biggest way. Dinwiddie makes his franchise look like a joke. Aside from trading Dru Brown after publicly shitting on him (and then going 0-5 with the guy he said was better), hasn't he also threatened to cut a player publicly after talking about how he should be embarrassed to watch film in front of his teammates? Didn't he pull the same thing last year and then not follow up on it? The guy is an idiot and if the players haven't already tuned him out, they will soon.

I think we're absolutely dreaming if we think Hamilton is offering up Kiondre Smith for Zach Collaros. Nevermind a plus. 12 games of a washed up starting QB plus playoffs for one of the top Canadian receivers in the league, in his prime?

There's no way it ever works like this. "Here, can you please sign this REQUEST A TRADE form?" "Um, no ... I'll just tell you that I'm going to become a disenchanted player who is going to walk in my UFA year and I'll do everything to imply I want a trade without actually acknowledging it" The NFL does the compensation pick model and I feel like it fits even better in the NHL.