voodoochylde

And it might speak to why we passed on SOME of those players we've brought in - they didn't mesh with the locker room .. they were undisciplined or selfish or just not "getting it".

This. You can't take their record away from them though. They won games and beat the teams they were scheduled to face. It doesn't matter the how or why of it but you also can't turn a blind eye to how easy they had it right out of the gate.

Speaks to coaching. For all his perceived flaws, O'Shea has consistently fielded a disciplined and mindful team - they don't hurt themselves with stupid, selfish penalties.

By every metric, Brady has had the more exceptional season. Objectively, he did more to help his team be successful than any other MOP nominee. You take Kelly out of the Toronto offense, they still won games and still managed great field position in every contest they were in. You take Brady off the Bombers, do we win the close games? Do we grind out wins? Chances are, no.

The last time someone did it was in 2013 - Jon Cornish. A ridiculous 1800+ rushing yards. So .. it's been a decade since anyone has come close to Brady's numbers. With that said, the running game was much more prominent a decade ago. Top running backs were all hovering around that 1500 yard mark.

Was Madani. Just voted for CFL East and West awards. Of note, Brady Oliveira for West MOP, but Betts over Oliveira for Top Canadian in the West. Betts' impact in games was staggering. Crum got my vote for East rookie of the year. What they asked him to do was wild, right into the fire. — Arash Madani (@ArashMadani) October 29, 2023

I think in terms of a single player's impact to the overall success of their team and the excellence with which they've performed, Brady (objectively speaking) should be considered the favourite to win MOP. Toronto has been the story all season and the media / voters being what they are, will attribute much of that success and their record success to Kelly (rightly or wrongly).

Outside TDs .. their numbers are very similar. 2023 COLLAROS, Zach WPG 17 291 422 69.0 4,252 33 15 112.8 3.6 10.1 2023 KELLY, Chad TOR 17 270 394 68.5 4,123 23 12 109.6 3.0 10.5

If Dru establishes himself as the “face of a franchise” why would he consider leaving that organization to come back here? That’s wishful thinking more than anything.

Who’s better in short yardage? That’s the role. Pigrome .. Prukop .. they’d both be glorified RBs on this team. Prukop shouldn’t be on a roster in this league. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Pigrome isn’t in the league next year.

Not only that but .. learning the how and why things are done in a successful organization from veterans who have been there and have helped build it is IMMENSELY valuable. Culture is the easiest thing to destroy and the hardest thing to build - we only have to look at our not too distant past to see what the wilderness looks like.

Guys. Keep the discussion on football. Jets stuff can go to that forum and petty personal jabs can be left at the door.

With the way Parker has gotten his feet under him, and the physical presence he’s added in the secondary, they need to keep him in the lineup. I don’t put a lot of faith in the Schoen talk but he’s taken such a beating this year it wouldn’t surprise me at all if it finally caught up to him. Best case scenario, BC drops their game and we have an opportunity to get people healthy but there’s no way I’m banking on that. Our fate is ours to control .. at this point in the season, that’s all you can ever ask for.

Apparently there is “talk” that Schoen is done for the year.

One can only hope the powers that be give that Saskatchewan squad a chance to run it back. Coaches. Players. Management. Bring ‘em all back! 🙃

That list is ugly .. We've gone from the likes of Kenny Lawler, Dee Alford and Dalton Schoen to that "crop"? Yeeesh.

Don’t get me wrong .. I get irritated by the lack of consistency and downright terrible calls as well but also accept the refs are human and are doing the best they can in that moment (no matter how obvious I think a call / non-call is).

It’s why you will never hear me blame officials for the outcome of a game. Bad calls. Missed calls. They go both ways. The stuff that gets me hot relates to players taking late or unnecessary hits. While I love football and soul crushing hits, players deserve to protected - all players, not just the QBs.

It’s a hold but it looks particularly awful because Bryant ends up on his back. That said, Betts goes down (in large part) because he’s got a giant fistful of jersey. I bet had he not been clinging to Bryant, there would have been a flag.

Only time I’ll be grateful for kramdi missing a tackle.

Hardrick lost that one on one but Zach stepped RIGHT INTO that pressure.

It’s his expanding package.

This. Step up. He had room. Hardrick pushed Betts 7 yards deep and Zach turned right into him.

Not saying it wasn’t but Lawler has made tougher catches look routine.

Remember when Lawler would come down with those though.