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Brutal

While I agree with you that that is the standard they laid out a few years ago, it actually did not make sense to me at the time and still doesn’t. And while I get that in general you’d like to see them make the call in a minute or less, I do feel like what makes the CFL bush is when they have a knee-jerk reaction and say as they did a few years ago, “all calls need to be determined in one quick look at game speed“. I mean, how stupid is that? what is the purpose of replay if you can’t look at it more than once and slow it down? I think there is a balance to strike: be as efficient as possible but also accept that there are going to be times where they need to take their time to get it right. I certainly would not want the bombers to lose a game where the other team “picked it off“, but they actually didn’t. So, in sum: look at it more than once if you need to, be as efficient as possible, and truly hold yourself to the standard that the evidence needs to be irrefutable to overturn what was called on the field. but I do acknowledge your legitimate frustration when they say they’re going to do one thing and then do another.

OK, so we’re agreed that his skills are diminished. And, it would appear he needs quite a bit of help just to be more than meh, let alone “lethal”. I think that his own diminishment is by far the biggest factor in his struggles and that the o-line was definitely good enough yesterday for a good quarterback to be successful. And he was…on one drive. After that, not so much. The bombers need a plan, immediate and mid to longer term, that takes their starter’s diminished skills into account. Maybe they have one. But if the best predictor of future behaviour is past behavior, the bombers’ plan is likely to ride this veteran way too long (exhibit a: see one Adam Bighill).

Disagree that protection was the issue last night. Collaros had adequate time for the most part (was he even sacked?) and was going through his progressions. With the two pics, he threw off his back foot. Rainbow throws. The fact that he doesn’t eat those or throw it out of bounds is not on the oline.

Well, he’s definitely not getting better! He’s seven years on the wrong side of 30. His arm strength and escapability have both diminished, even considerably. And Osh will ride him to the bitter end. Strev, 7 yrs younger, was light years better last week.

Yup

Yeah, that was bad on Helle’s part. Really uncharacteristic this year, but definitely should’ve had two of those and their guy stops a breakaway on Ehlers in overtime and Helle unable to match on the two on one. That said, Nik Ehlers could’ve helped him out there… He is not a good finisher on breakaways.

Fuc3

Agree shouldn’t have been that easy to gain zone entry. Good shot, yup. But from well out. Definitely surprised to see it go in. Reminded me a lot of the goals that went in against the Avs in the playoffs.

Helle certainly needed to have that

There’s been a disturbing trend recently of giving up goals late in the period and game. not a winning formula.

Perfetti having a night

Is Miller a healthy scratch? wtf?

Those are brutal goals to give up at the end of the period. Just ******* brutal. Stanley just so g-d slow. He is too slow for the NHL.

This is 100% true. And it is one of MOS’ most in enduring, abject failures as a coach. His absolutely incredibly idiotic, stubborn insistence to keep his starters in when we’re up 20 points. Losing absolutely critical reps for the guy behind him. then it absolutely bites you in the ass in the most critical game of the year when your starter gets hurt like tonight, or just doesn’t have his game. So ******* stupid.

I think you are overreacting. It is upsetting, for sure. And the coach needs to take his share of accountability for what happened today. Just as does Zach. Maybe it’s fair to say there’s something about this particular combination of coaches and core players that seems to have trouble Executing in the big games? Too obvious? 🙂 At the end of the day O’Shea is still one of the most successful coaches in the history of the franchise and put us in the position to win the whole thing five times in a row… You don’t fire that type of coach. Not when he still getting you to the dance… But some adjustments need to be made. obviously one of his great strengths is he is a culture guy… I just don’t know if he’s much of a strategy guy. Their strategy guy, Dinwiddie, out strategied whoever our strategy guys are. Again, I don’t think that is MOS‘s skill set… But it’s on him to find guys who compete with a guy like Dinwiddie. Keep in mind too MOS has repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly said that he is 110% a Zach guy and has no plans to move on from him… So if you have issues with Zach then you have issues with MOS. Or you should.

No, the players have to take accountability for sure. But It is a shared accountability with the coaching staff. Why would the coaching staff get a complete free pass on a performance like this? again, I am not arguing that it’s not on the players but this is not an either/or occasion it’s a both/and.

Well, he is the head coach of this team. A team that has now lost three straight times in the big game. And since many people, probably including you and me, are willing to give him credit when the team does well, it’s presumably both fair and consistent for him to face some scrutiny and accountability when the team fails, don’t you think?

I think in general you would have to acknowledge we got out coached. I mean, O’Shea sets the culture… But what’s he actually doing in the game? whatever they did at halftime was clearly vastly superior to whatever we did. And, yeah, I was stunned when the back up went in and we had him throwing from down near the 25 yard line rather than giving it to Brady!

Remind me what you are referencing here. What would video have demonstrated that would’ve caused the loss?

Yeah, I hate Durant.

One of the things I find the most distasteful about the riders chat site is how much so many of them whine about how people are against them or don’t give them enough respect. Let’s not be that guy. What don’t you like about Nielsen and Suitor?

I really, really like the first part of what you said and totally got it… The part about them being losers. I really, really like the first part of what you said and totally got it… The part about them being losers. After that I wasn’t smart enough to follow what you’re saying. 🙂

Indeed. Wtf. Why don’t you kick a damn field goal?

Hey Negatron… I get it. You described the feeling really well. I get it, I really do. And yeah, go bombers. Kill the riders. let me just add that I’m really disappointed in Sergio. He has been very good outside of 50 and pretty so so and sometimes flat out bad inside of 50. I mean, let’s be honest, he really played a huge part in both losses to Toronto. He simply has to make kicks inside of 45 yards. I’d really much rather him be 95% inside of 50 and 50% outside of 50 then the other way around. It’s almost to the point when they have a field goal attempt from under 50 yards the bombers might want to request if they can just concede 10 yards so he can kick outside of 50. Put it this way, I’m feeling concerned about our field goal kick as we head into the playoffs.