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Can confirm rapture has happened because Mitchell is playing slot. Parker on crutches, no Kramdi, schoen running sprints off to the side on his own. all this from and thanks to DT.

Peyton Logan dressed too

accurate. Jackson had his offence running well with mbt, but couldn’t win or compete to save his life with him. RD wins with all his QBs. Guys a great coach I give it up to him. Looks like Mitchell is with the first team to start today, and zach back at practice

Yeah interesting move. I don’t know that they look at him as a T project either. Elite run blocker, if he picks things up fast we might go back to 3 imp ol. This move smacks of wanting an imp guard.

Being pushed isn’t just for a psychological boost. You’re right that Strev doesn’t need that. Bailey was far more of a self motivated competitor, but he still needed rosey to come into the pr and raise the level of play required to keep a spot in the wr core. He went from dropping a massive amount of balls and playing poorly to playing his best ball. He needs to be challenged for his spot, he needs to make better decisions and be faster in his decision making. When zachs out, strev is the default. Even when zach is healthy we need competition where the best player plays. Nearly all players are better through competition. If you look at weight divisions that are the best and are the highest level, it’s because you have many guys pushing the level of play up. Fact is, Strev played his best game in game 1, and has been significantly worse since then. When your calibre of play drops that bad continually, you need competition and to be pushed. We need to address the offence at every single level and position other than rb. Qb, wr, ol, coaching and game plan. It all stinks. If we had one improved, that would help the rest, but none of them are good enough even if the others were optimal.

I hate seeing back ups come in mid game. With prep I don’t worry as much. Though we could now call that the argonaut effect.

Psst, in the cfl, the real season starts on LD. We’ve seen red hot starts from them and bc before with poor stretch runs.

I hate all the repeat games in the first part or the year. If vaj is out, I like our chances. If he plays it’ll be a tough game for us to win.

I hope so, but I don’t think he will. I think his talent is top tier, but his polish needs a lot of work and time. Not a great investment for them unless they really love his intangibles and coaching/locker room fit. That’s the best case for us imo. Have him in camp next year with a year of nfl coaching. Other wise I’d alternate him n chase on the ir to keep both around.

I get that, but here is why it isn't just hate from me. 1, they've been beating up on teams like that, Montreal with no rb or qb. 2, They have the 2nd most points in the league, but their offense is mid-pack for TDS and bottom tier for FGs. 3, they have bad teams' cover play with unreliable k/p. 4, Their O is mid-pack in first downs, and their D is bottom tier in giving up among the most. 5, Their D is in the bottom tier for giving up TD drives, and only slightly better at forcing turnovers. 6, Discipline. They are the most penalized team in the league once again. 7, They are reliant on a bunch of old guys who have been pretty healthy so far. Harris, Micah, Rose, Hardrick, etc. McEwen and some WRs have been banged up. But in a league where every QB is hurt, and you have an old guy in Harris who's been healthy, it is just a matter of time until an injury hits that hurts their roster. 8, Ssk, is squeezing out a lot of close wins over banged-up teams. Finally, coaching. I think Mace is along for the ride on that roster. He's a good defensive coach, but he isn't the leader capable of getting that team to play disciplined, smart ball. They have a well-rounded offence, with a very good OL. It has the highest yards per play and the most big plays. They also have the best pressure front in the league. They are a good team. But they are a team that is peaking in the first 1/3 of the season. It is extremely rare, especially in the West, for that to pan out long-term. Montreal and Toronto are going to get a lot better when they get QBs back. Hamilton is already better. The riders probably have the best chance in the West of being a good team for an extended period of time. If Harris keeps playing. But I think they are a coaching change away from being a real GC contender.

Don’t you put that evil on me Ricky Bobby! Seriously though if it happens now it’s your fault lol. I don’t think the riders will be real competition for the cup. Calgary is the team out of the west. They got the D, the qb, the rb, WRs if they get healthy, and the brain trust. healthy Montreal and Toronto with Kelly out of the east too. Ssk is winning with smoke and mirrors, and so are we at this point.

I’m talking talent brought into camp. We had a really good wr crop but also had schoen lawler etc. lber last year was very good but also blocked this time by biggie and kyrie. Garbutt isn’t a dt. Fox has been the best inside run stopper in the league. Guys are not talentless amorphous blobs of nothing until suddenly they produce and become some thing. You may not like guys or see the talent, doesn’t mean it isn’t there.

That’s a large part of it for sure. And it’s much easier to fix the rest than fix qbing. I think we need to take swings at fixing each level of issue though. For atleast boosting internal competition level.

For sure. I love his nose for making plays, great instincts and motor.

No one’s saying he isn’t great. But he’s basically retired and writing fluff pieces (of great quality to be fair) and has been in booster mode for years. Irving go into the same deal before he retired.

Sad isn’t it. We’ve fallen to a qbing level below post injury Matt nichols. Arbuckle would be an upgrade for us. Hes had no running game and a worse ol yet still done more.

I’d argue Zach is more limited. If he isn’t connecting on bombs consistently, which has only happened once this year and 2-3 times in the last year and a half, he can’t run any offence. We see his yards per attempt plummet to the depths. Atleast strevy is capable of running designed fast tempo timing stuff. He just isn’t capable of improving if that first look isn’t good. Zach needs big guys who can dominate 50/50 tosses down field. Strevy can succeed with a wider variety of wr types. It’s a bad position though, we don’t have the pieces or the system to support either.

It’s a cyclical problem. We don’t recruit as well as during an all time run of talent, we ride too long with old guys soo we don’t develop the talent we do bring in, and the level of play devolves very quickly. You aren’t going to have a generational talent gap very often. But you should expect a top front office to find more turn key gems. IMO, we’ve seen some tremendous talent the last 3 camps at dt, lber, wr, rb, and db. We’ve also had 2 excellent drafts in a row. The job we’ve done in recognizing, and developing those guys while optimizing rosters is poor. The quality of job we’ve done at bringing in league vets at spots we don’t recruit well, and replacing top talent is also poor. I’ll note, the wr talent the last two years has been much worse in camp. Prior to that we had some very good wr groups.

I kinda get not pulling a qb in a game you’re winning, but I think that kind of ballsy move would send a perfect message to our locker room young and old. Perform, or be replaced. No exceptions. I would’ve pulled both strevy and zach in each guys last game. More than one for zach. I’m not giving up on strevy yet. But I’m not willing to bank a season on him either. At this point, you gotta make a hard decision. Is Wilson/Chase a future starter? If you’re not sure ditch one. See if any one is willing to trade a vet qb young or old. Strev needs to be pushed and so does zach. If not, open the bank and bring in some one who can step up quickly. UFL, nfl back up when the cuts hit etc.

I don’t know what to expect from a “healthy” ol at this point. We’ve had soo much turn over and it’s been soo long it’ll take forever for un healthy guys to get the rust off get their wind back and get back into a groove. Im encouraged by flashes from Randolph, Vanterpool, and Lofton. Lofton came back much better than I expected. At this point im hoping vanterpool gets healthy, goes back in at G, Lofton stays at LT, and rando at rt. My biggest hope for improvement is some how we see through Kola who suddenly can’t even snap reliably. Give me Eli or even Wallace at C. Let a unit like that play together for a month. Maybe Bryant is 100% for the stretch run that’d be great. I don’t want to see him run out at a fractional power. even at 100% he hasn’t been great this year. We are part way through the growing pains with guys like Wallace, Lofton, Randolph, and vanterpool. May as well see how far they can grow before the stretch run.

Imo, next to hc and OC is the hardest coaching job come game day. Even the prep work during the week is massive. If you’re a hc who doesn’t have a heavy hand in o or d, OC is likely harder. Or being an oc with a struggling qb. Hard, hard job. It also has one of the shortest shelf life’s. I would’ve expected our O to be much further along at this point, especially with Jackson as the qb coach. Hogan has had plenty of adversity, I’d be willing to give him more grace, if he had shown any flashes at all. But the problems are deep and the bright spots nearly none existent.

Yeah the talk was about grooming him for that role. Clearly we did **** all in coaching him since he twice didn’t know what his responsibilities were when it’s kicked shallow and to his side. Reality is if you are gonna break into this league as an imp rb, or if you’re going to roster one, they need maximum versatility. And rb is a spot with a lot of the build in tools to do the extra jobs. Plus we’ve literally done this before. With Flanders, Augustine, gmc etc. The last imp wr around here needs to have the ability to run sweeps etc too. End of the day it’s the ocs job to put the players in position to get the ball in their hands and make plays. Who do you want to be that guy, Corcoran, Mitchell, and Cooley. You can run Cooley out of the back field, tight etc and have him make easy catches, motion for sweeps and hand offs, and let him make plays. Or, you can let Mitchell do what we paid him to do. Or you can put out Corcoran who can’t block, get open, or run, but he can catch.

Speed, and tremendous upper body power. Reminds me a lot of Gavin walls.

Vaval has been among the league leaders in kr and pr average actually. Productivity hasn’t really been the issue.

We also dressed Cobb not only to not use him on O, but chose to use Cooley as the 2nd kr instead of him. Just the best roster management possible.