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100% cfl offences are extremely stagnant and have been for a while. The biggest difference you see is what routes teams target in those concepts and some teams/QBs are better at taking what’s available. The collaros to lawler 20 yard out is a good example of that. plop certainly came from that time and era but doesn’t have direct lineage connecting to shanahan, which shows. His playbook is stuck in 90s mode too lol. He used to lean heavily on the mike leach air raid screen pass package too. Especially in the cfl. You just can’t stop offence any more. You slow it down and try to contain it as best as you can.

Some one needs a maier mccheese stamps jersey made if we end up hosting them in the play offs. Start a go fund me or some thing lol I’ll kick in.

We have a great wealth of guys on here who bring tremendous content in all kinds of forms. And the community only seems to grow here. Its amazing what Zach has built in such a short time with the podcast especially.

3 tackles a blocked kick a forced fumble and nearly blocked two more. He also made plays that set up tackles a couple more times. Dudes a beast on teams. Kelly wasn’t rushing the punter racking up tackles either.

Not that I know of. That is pretty funny though lol.

Especially with Clements playing pretty well and Cole being a monster on teams. Sts demon

Ok good to know I’m not that crazy lol thanks. I don’t blame a guy for not wanting to play till the ruin of his body. Wonder how he feels about it. My old fat ass still wishes I could play one more game semi frequently. He’s a beast. Best trade we’ve made in a while.

Yeah maybe. Hard to say especially in retrospect. Seemed like bc gave him a good run in replacing biggie when he went to the nfl. He’s still only like 33 and he’s been out for years. So it seems like it has to be injury or decision related.

The big thing you get from old players is tendencies, what guys struggle with, and how certain guys/alignment/movement can tip plays. Like how in the chip Kelly offence at Oregon if the rb was left of the qb the run would be out side zone with the play side on the opposite side of the rb. (Rb crosses QBs face) and if he was behind it was insider zone read etc. this did change over time as chip added new wrinkles and runs that broke the tendency. If you aren’t a team that’s great at film, inside info won’t be worth any thing. If your the pats, you get every thing you could possibly want from tape. Those tapes might be from practice though. Lol.

Likely 100-150 pass plays and 40-50 run plays. Now how many are installed in a game? Half ish. Probably 20 or so of the passing plays and 12-15 of the run plays are bread and butter installed every week. The majority of the rest are situational. So when you build your play book in the off season you have a group of plays to beat specific coverage. Defence plays cover 3 buzz mable, you have a pack of plays to beat that. Some of that will be used in a cover 1 or cover 7 scheme say, but alignment and personal packs change. In the run you have specific plays to use if the dl is run stunting (twisting dts) to try and steal an extra gap with out an extra body. Or if the dts read the C and when he crosses one the other wraps back to get back in the way etc. Other than that you have packages that develop over the year. So you have bread and butter but then you have some mayo, pepperoni, mustard etc plays to use in the future when teams adjust to your bread and butter. The bombers are very modular, they run the same pass and run concepts out of different formations we might run our dagger concept out of 11 formation with a wr like Bailey tight or they might run it out of bunches or 4x1 etc. we don’t tip our play with rb or formation alignment. We will also use one alignment with motion or zero motion (moving to a new spot at the snap) to get into another look. the Signals are used to relate terminology. So it’s possible to intercept and translate to steal the play. It’s happened a lot in the cfl and nfl over the past 25 years. But the signals often change every week because of this now. This is also why you see use of different ways to signal in plays. Couple years ago Hamilton I think even used the flash cards.

Burnett was widely renown for having excellent football iq, instincts, and film study. From mark Washington, biggie, and eliminian, to Monte kiffin. He works with mutual funds now, and was doing well in his last year with bc so he probably retired for financial reasons. He kind of got caught behind the wave of old school heavy power wil/Mac lbers. Even now we are still transitioning as a league to lbers who are under 230/220. He probably would’ve been better served staying at S.

Based on what?

Cole reminds me of Tony Burnett. Freak athlete wil we had a few years back. He played a lot of teams and went to bc to try and start but disappeared. He was a track star at usc (track scholarship who walked on to the football team.) did run jump hurdles stuff. I remember he had some blazing 100m times.

Especially running inside like cmon. Not to mention shortly after he went all out to catch that short punt and draw a no yards while getting drilled. Bad situational awareness and decision making from buck.

That’s a damn good question. Off the top of my head, no joke, miller. For starters on Defence? It’s harder and the best are likely undersized dbs who don’t sell out for hits like Darby. Best lber for my money is jsk and he hasn’t even played this year. Football as a whole needs to come down hard on head first tackles. As hard as targeting or spearing now and get harder on those calls. Force the players and teams to adapt. Be it hawk tackling or other ways. All our dbs are generally really good tacklers. It’s pretty key in the hall system. Rose is a great tackler, Darby etc. BA used to be but he’s gone mad selling out for hits. Taylor loffler syndrome.

Yeeep. 3dn beat him to it too lol. probably as much as when we played bc. Maybe a bit more on stuff being installed still. Though honestly our play call on offence has been far from inspired this year.

Be great to have Kenny back.

That’s right I forgot he went to their camp. I guess he’s on their pr/ir? Another great guy.

I might be crazy but didn’t he retire to be a cop or firefighter in bc or some thing? Am I thinking of some one else maybe?

When those guys are crafty guys with great moves absolutely. Guys who depend deeply on quickness and athleticism not soo much. Easier said than done but I’d say look at him next to Augustine. Kinda similar build. Guys like that do have a tendency to look much heavier than they are. Those big shoulders and arms, the guys with huge legs can often be the reverse. loool. With nick taylor retired biggie is probably the best athlete over 30 on the team now. Grant or Cole might be the best over all.

Oof that is a hideous roster of ol.

Yes and no. It’s hard for lbers and RBs to be as effective year after year. They take a ton of high speed hits and work against dramatically bigger linemen. That’s the two spots that chews up and spits out guys more than any other in football. Biggie is an extreme aberration, especially for a speed tool guy.

Np. the expected gain is that players yards per touch on a carry or catch for the year vs the out come. Not terribly advanced but stats are even worse to try and work with right now than usual in the cfl. So Brady averages 5.3 per carry. If he gets 7 than he’s +1.7 over his expected outcome. It can be punishing for guys coming back and making plays on the back end of coverage like sheeds play. But especially lber on rb it’s pretty solid. The first down / punt is if the stop was made but after a first was produced. A stop of 4 yards when a guy averages 5.3 seems solid but if he needed 3 for a first it’s clearly less valuable. And punts are if the stop was a 2nd down play that lead to a punt following it. Which is ideal. A lot of awe 10 tackles came from getting the ball run down his throat in the 4th. Where as biggie had them spread pretty evenly through the game with plays coming in coverage and run stoping.

Need me some of that. Biggie lists as 241 but man he seems smaller than when he was with bc. Long gone is the explosive power of the 9 sack 100+ tackle campaigns. Crazy to think back to the guy who had 647 tackles 37 sacks, 10 picks, 6 forced fumbles 6 fumble recoveries, 6 pass kds, 2 tds a saftey, 105 games only 3 missed over 6 seasons from 12-16+18. Its really one of the greatest career renaissances we’ve seen from a hofer who came back from the nfl. Yeah right now our first down run fits have either Darby or ba filling a gap with a lber on an ol and it’s rough. Teams will adjust and kill us with play action and timing routes if we dont sort it out before too long. Lucky Lawson helps.

Yep. This change could allow him to play much later into his 30s than you see from lbers. His versatility allows us to do a lot in terms of coverage and blitzing. If we had a full time nose instead of biggie having to take a linemen, or use a db in run fits, we could have biggie roam and scrape to the rb. With Lawson and a nose we could do some asymmetrical alignments like the cover3/Tampa 2 disciples do where you cancel 3-4 gaps with 2 guys and let your athletes make plays.