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iso_55, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:

I'd consider it a miracle if Ottawa fans could put up with 5 points averaged all year

 

As well as Rick Campbell's new version of Mike Kelly's double QB system.  That's what this is reminding me of.

Your comments remind me of TV's Pee Wee (Herman's) Playhouse before he jerked off in a porn theatre. 

 

 

 

I just call it as I see it man.  No hiding the truth.

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iso_55, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:

I'd consider it a miracle if Ottawa fans could put up with 5 points averaged all year

 

As well as Rick Campbell's new version of Mike Kelly's double QB system.  That's what this is reminding me of.

Your comments remind me of TV's Pee Wee (Herman's) Playhouse before he jerked off in a porn theatre. 

 

 

 

I just call it as I see it man.  No hiding the truth.

 

No, there's comments & there's just... stupid. 

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iso_55, on 08 Nov 2014 - 01:17 AM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:58 PM, said:

 

I suspect Calgary will be sitting most of their starters for this one, they already are the West hosts for the final, no need to win this one.

 

You got this wrong. 

 

 

So what?  Hufnagel wanted the win, fine he got it.  Coulda played his cards either way though and the Stamps would still be hosting the west final.

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iso_55, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:

I'd consider it a miracle if Ottawa fans could put up with 5 points averaged all year

 

As well as Rick Campbell's new version of Mike Kelly's double QB system.  That's what this is reminding me of.

Your comments remind me of TV's Pee Wee (Herman's) Playhouse before he jerked off in a porn theatre. 

 

 

 

I just call it as I see it man.  No hiding the truth.

 

No, there's comments & there's just... stupid

 

 

Like the bomber coach bashers on here.

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iso_55, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:

I'd consider it a miracle if Ottawa fans could put up with 5 points averaged all year

 

As well as Rick Campbell's new version of Mike Kelly's double QB system.  That's what this is reminding me of.

Your comments remind me of TV's Pee Wee (Herman's) Playhouse before he jerked off in a porn theatre. 

 

 

 

I just call it as I see it man.  No hiding the truth.

 

No, there's comments & there's just... stupid

 

 

Like the bomber coach bashers on here.

 

Some of the stuff you say or the threads you start, what is the alcohol of choice when you start them? Hey, I just call it as I see it, man. No hiding the truth.

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972.  They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.  

 

 

Good to know - I never saw that game (was a bit too young then but I remember my buddy always telling me about that rouge - apparently it was won on a 'phantom' penalty call made by a biased official which resulted in a rouge or something like that). Good find Iso!!!! The guy I though of I saw play - sad part of all what I typed - that's from memory. I looked it up later and was shocked I remembered everything correctly. Wish I could remember where I put my fricken car keys instead

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

 

The little general.

 

 

Good job :)

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Man and people want to bag on this coaching staff for staying patient with Willy, yet they think Campbell is no less stubborn and should be defended for sticking with O'Brien.

 

Ridiculous

 

People are bagging on this coaching staff when you need to win a game, and you have a QB who can't make a decision to throw the ball if his life depended on it. My thing is this - best players should play. It proven that Marve is the 'best' QB we have, yet he sat on the bench. I'm not talking 'best' for the future, I"m talking best in the here and now. Injury, shell shock, whatever, it doesn't matter, Willy proved he couldn't get it done. Marve would not have necessarily won the B.C. game (I personally think he would have but that's an opinion, I have no way of knowing what would have actually happened) but he would have given us the best chance to win that game. The very least, like when Kuale had FOUR unnecessary roughness penalties called on him, O'Shea should have pulled Willy even for a few series just to calm him down, let him gather himself, especially if Marve went out and completed a few instead of just standing there and getting sacked. Just to show Willy that 'hey, there are open guys out there' or 'hey, it's ok to trust in your receivers to make a play'. 

 

THAT'S what I was complaining about. And the last game we played proved my point

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KptKrunch, on 08 Nov 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:KptKrunch, on 08 Nov 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:KptKrunch, on 08 Nov 2014 - 12:04 PM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:38 PM, said:USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:38 PM, said:USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:38 PM, said:

Man and people want to bag on this coaching staff for staying patient with Willy, yet they think Campbell is no less stubborn and should be defended for sticking with O'Brien.

 

Ridiculous

 

People are bagging on this coaching staff when you need to win a game, and you have a QB who can't make a decision to throw the ball if his life depended on it. My thing is this - best players should play. It proven that Marve is the 'best' QB we have, yet he sat on the bench. I'm not talking 'best' for the future, I"m talking best in the here and now. Injury, shell shock, whatever, it doesn't matter, Willy proved he couldn't get it done. Marve would not have necessarily won the B.C. game (I personally think he would have but that's an opinion, I have no way of knowing what would have actually happened) but he would have given us the best chance to win that game. The very least, like when Kuale had FOUR unnecessary roughness penalties called on him, O'Shea should have pulled Willy even for a few series just to calm him down, let him gather himself, especially if Marve went out and completed a few instead of just standing there and getting sacked. Just to show Willy that 'hey, there are open guys out there' or 'hey, it's ok to trust in your receivers to make a play'. 

 

THAT'S what I was complaining about. And the last game we played proved my point

 

 

Yes and this is all very true.  I have no issues with any of what you just said.

 

But I also think in much the same way Rick Campbell could be doing that with his team and doesn't, and I think he gets too much of a pass just because of that old "expansion team" rhetoric which should not fly.  It doesn't matter if you coach an expansion team or not, if you're a bad game manager, you're a bad game manager period and nothing can fix that.  The Redblacks in their inaugural year were not heading to the playoffs, but 5 wins should not have been too much for them, especially considering the whole rest of the east was in the crapper the first half of the season.

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972.  They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.  

 

 

Good to know - I never saw that game (was a bit too young then but I remember my buddy always telling me about that rouge - apparently it was won on a 'phantom' penalty call made by a biased official which resulted in a rouge or something like that). Good find Iso!!!! The guy I though of I saw play - sad part of all what I typed - that's from memory. I looked it up later and was shocked I remembered everything correctly. Wish I could remember where I put my fricken car keys instead

 

I can still find my underwear in the morning so I'm doing good. ;) That was the most painful loss I ever experienced as a fan. It still hurts 42 years later. I'll never forget the fans rushing the field after the game looking for the refs & they bolted to their locker room full speed as there was a riot on the field. It was ugly... Fans wanted their blood as the call was so ridiculously biased. I was so mad as a 17 year old, I remember actually wanting to kill them. It's crazy how just a game can make a person feel that much rage & hatred even for just a few minutes. I was way up in the west upper deck for the game so I wasn't able to get to the field, thankfully. 

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972.  They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.  

 

I'm curious what happened to the Bombers that day in 1972 iso?  Before my time.  Were you at that game or did you watch it on tv?

 

Edit:  Ok I see you were at the game, but I'm not familiar with this phantom call.  Can't find any video on youtube either

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is. Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year. I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972. They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.

I'm curious what happened to the Bombers that day in 1972 iso? Before my time. Were you at that game or did you watch it on tv?

Edit: Ok I see you were at the game, but I'm not familiar with the this phantom call. Can't find any video on youtube either

Sounds like some nasty ass **** went down at that game...typical CFL officiating stuff ;)

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972.  They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.  

 

I'm curious what happened to the Bombers that day in 1972 iso?  Before my time.  Were you at that game or did you watch it on tv?

 

Edit:  Ok I see you were at the game, but I'm not familiar with this phantom call.  Can't find any video on youtube either

 

 

Chances are you'll  never see it either anywhere as the CFL as well as the CTV & CBC Networks never saved their game day footage. The CFL HOF probably doesn't have any footage either which is a damned shame.

Let me set it  up for you. The game was tied 24-24. On the final play of the game Rider kicker Jack Abendschan missed a 35 yard FG. We had 3 returners in the end zone with expressed instructions to kick it out if they couldn't return it out by running as the game would then go to OT. Two of the returners were punter Mike Law & Walt McKee our FG kicker. After a series of punts back & forth in & out of the end zone we were called for no yards on the punt that the Riders had fielded & kicked back into the end zone. Ref blew the play dead & the ball moved to our 20 yard line & Riders kicked the winning FG with no time left after they missed it the first time. They won the game in the shittiest way possible.

The season was over because of that ******* bullshit call. The ball was kicked in & out of the end zone at least three times as the game was tied when this was going on. Thing is, the refs called US for No Yards when the Riders were just as guilty of No Yards when we caught the football in the end zone but of course no call vs them. That's what everyone was angry about. The fans were in a frenzy & wanted referees blood. I had been to every game since 1969 & season ticket holder from 1974 to 1990 & I never saw the fans like that before or after. 

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iso_55, on 08 Nov 2014 - 02:38 AM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 08 Nov 2014 - 01:24 AM, said:

 

iso_55, on 08 Nov 2014 - 01:18 AM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 08 Nov 2014 - 12:03 AM, said:

 

iso_55, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:56 PM, said:iso_55, on 07 Nov 2014 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:USABomberfan, on 07 Nov 2014 - 9:33 PM, said:

I'd consider it a miracle if Ottawa fans could put up with 5 points averaged all year

 

As well as Rick Campbell's new version of Mike Kelly's double QB system.  That's what this is reminding me of.

Your comments remind me of TV's Pee Wee (Herman's) Playhouse before he jerked off in a porn theatre. 

 

 

 

I just call it as I see it man.  No hiding the truth.

 

No, there's comments & there's just... stupid

 

 

Like the bomber coach bashers on here.

 

Some of the stuff you say or the threads you start, what is the alcohol of choice when you start them? Hey, I just call it as I see it, man. No hiding the truth.

 

 

You think I'm crazy????  You should go over to the CFL main forum, there are fans over there advocating the Redblacks dump Campbell and hire Bellefeuille.  Lol, that's not coming from me at all, that's Tiger Cat fans who are saying it too lol.

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972.  They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.  

 

I'm curious what happened to the Bombers that day in 1972 iso?  Before my time.  Were you at that game or did you watch it on tv?

 

Edit:  Ok I see you were at the game, but I'm not familiar with this phantom call.  Can't find any video on youtube either

 

 

Chances are you'll  never see it either anywhere as the CFL as well as the CTV & CBC Networks never saved their game day footage. The CFL HOF probably doesn't have any footage either which is a damned shame.

Let me set it  up for you. The game was tied 24-24. On the final play of the game Rider kicker Jack Abendschan missed a 35 yard FG. We had 3 returners in the end zone with expressed instructions to kick it out if they couldn't return it out by running as the game would then go to OT. Two of the returners were punter Mike Law & Walt McKee our FG kicker. After a series of punts back & forth in & out of the end zone we were called for no yards on the punt that the Riders had fielded & kicked back into the end zone. Ref blew the play dead & the ball moved to our 20 yard line & Riders kicked the winning FG with no time left after they missed it the first time. They won the game in the shittiest way possible.

The season was over because of that ******* bullshit call. The ball was kicked in & out of the end zone at least three times as the game was tied when this was going on. Thing is, the refs called US for No Yards when the Riders were just as guilty of No Yards when we caught the football in the end zone but of course no call vs them. That's what everyone was angry about. The fans were in a frenzy & wanted referees blood. I had been to every game since 1969 & season ticket holder from 1974 to 1990 & I never saw the fans like that before or after. 

 

Interesting.  Was this a big deal with the media in Winnipeg after it happened?  I guess it must have been.  I would imagine our play-by-play announcers and the national play-by-play announcers would have made some comments on it as well.

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I'm going to lay my money down that he is.  Since when did any coach keep their job after only winning two games with a highly favorable expansion draft?

 

The last coach who coached an expansion team who only won 2 games (Dom Capers) got fired immediately, there's no way Campbell stays after that gong show he put on this year.  I'm gonna bet the whole lotto on that.

 

I got one better - as a coach I survived not one but TWO 2 - 14 seasons, back to back, with an existing club. Granted, I was a legend in that town, and was fired after the second year, but I learned. I went on to be a very successful Coach in Edmonton and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup in each city as a coach, in between my gigs as a color commentator on the CBC. Do you know who I am?

 

Jim Spavital went 2-14 in 1970 as the rookie HC of the Bombers. He wasn't fired in the off season which some fans had hoped for but GM EarlLunsford kept him around. He was rewarded for his loyalty to Spav as the team improved to 7-8-1 in 1971 to snag a third place playoff spot in the West for the first time since 1966. Then under Spavital the Bombers improved to 10-6 in 1972.  They were the best regular season CFL team that year only to lose the West Final to the Riders at Winnipeg Stadium. A team that just got into the playoffs with an 8-8 record. Massive upset. So, maybe the redblacks improve enough to get a playoff spot next year or win 6 or 7 games. Who knows? But to fire Campbell after a single season? Well, that would be a typical dickish Marcel Desjardins move if he thought he'd be saving his own skin.  

 

I'm curious what happened to the Bombers that day in 1972 iso?  Before my time.  Were you at that game or did you watch it on tv?

 

Edit:  Ok I see you were at the game, but I'm not familiar with this phantom call.  Can't find any video on youtube either

 

 

Chances are you'll  never see it either anywhere as the CFL as well as the CTV & CBC Networks never saved their game day footage. The CFL HOF probably doesn't have any footage either which is a damned shame.

Let me set it  up for you. The game was tied 24-24. On the final play of the game Rider kicker Jack Abendschan missed a 35 yard FG. We had 3 returners in the end zone with expressed instructions to kick it out if they couldn't return it out by running as the game would then go to OT. Two of the returners were punter Mike Law & Walt McKee our FG kicker. After a series of punts back & forth in & out of the end zone we were called for no yards on the punt that the Riders had fielded & kicked back into the end zone. Ref blew the play dead & the ball moved to our 20 yard line & Riders kicked the winning FG with no time left after they missed it the first time. They won the game in the shittiest way possible.

The season was over because of that ******* bullshit call. The ball was kicked in & out of the end zone at least three times as the game was tied when this was going on. Thing is, the refs called US for No Yards when the Riders were just as guilty of No Yards when we caught the football in the end zone but of course no call vs them. That's what everyone was angry about. The fans were in a frenzy & wanted referees blood. I had been to every game since 1969 & season ticket holder from 1974 to 1990 & I never saw the fans like that before or after. 

 

Interesting.  Was this a big deal with the media in Winnipeg after it happened?  I guess it must have been.  I would imagine our play-by-play announcers and the national play-by-play announcers would have made some comments on it as well.

 

If it would have been 2014 instead of 1972, the call would have been all over social media & CFL sites. It would have generated huge discussion & outrage.This place would have exploded like we never have seen. Riderfans would have crashed. It was a huge deal but only by 1972 standards. The benefits of today's better camera angles, slow mo replay & higher on field production would have shown just how bad that call was. What a horrible way to end a potential Grey Cup championship season. The Bombers were the best team in the CFL that year by a wide margin. Interestingly, it was the first year that the CFL went to a single game knockout from the old best of 3 semi & best of 3 Western final. And the first time CFL playoffs were played on a Sunday as I recall. I guess you could say the CFL entered the modern era as far as playoffs went. I cursed the new format as I knew if we played them best of 3 that  year we'd have won. 

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