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Walters tho basically does draft work.. he not out bird dogging...but also we will never know if anyone is better cause they don't get played either...so who knows...and 4 reps in a game won't help...or languishing at practice time...practice now does nothing to earn a spot...not how they ran now We caught in a chicken and egg thing here....is it inadequate scouting and management...or is it poor coaching? Do you upset the apple cart by purging g.m...with it all scouting and support and risk having the front end and financial aspects go way down hill...only to find out the same things occur at team level? And truthfully that's what would happen Or do u do as what historically most teams do and work at player level or coach first...purge the guys who havnt gotten it done for yrs now and keep the younger upside and actually useful vets...or remove the HC who has been at the helm and created the game day roster...philosophies...etc? Generally the second scenario is the smarter and right one...and where we should be looking regardless of the yeah buts. The only yeah buts that matter is the 3 recent flops...and 3 consecutive seasons of cracks...eroding play...coaching...talent..and reluctance to do anything about it at the on field level Also...good luck getting a new G.M worth piss to come here if u handcuff him and say job is yours...but u have to keep everything as is below u...being coaches...players...game philosophies...not gonna happen and welcome to shitsville again if u do that...they gonna want their own people... If change is needed and gonna happen...and it definitely needs to be...its gonna and gotta be at the coaching...and player level first True...very true...and even then it was because there was an actual open job available...he didnt push out a vet or tenured player When is the last time with this staff have we had a T.C cut where we sent a vet who been here a while packing for a new guy? Where fans were wow? Happens a lot elsewhere...but I'll tell u how many times here....zero...that i can think of of any relevance

yeah....putting him back in after it was put back in place...who effin does that?

Even since last yr Griffin should have been the actual starter in possibly 2 positions...if not 3.....but he gets relegated to rotation behind the teacher's pets/choices....

ALSO...WE dont need Korn or Thomas on roster...thats also the issue....wasted roster spots..Lawson is fine...Kramdi can y=take reps...and hey here's a thought...start integrating Shay and Smith for reps too....cant develop with no play....but that makes sense......

Lawler would have stayed...Ford would have and not for the dumb money Edm offered....Hardrick yeah but he was sucking here...so Walters made right move there...Garbut and Fox would offer mote than who took their spots...which is....nobody Scheme and ideology play a large part on the suckage...or apparent suckage we see...especially on a dline.....I not sure who the growing tired crowd were with Fox and Garbutt....if people dont see our depth is gutted...some of our apparent "frontline" starters are garbage and guys who have a lot of potential...youth...athleticism are not used so we will never know....and it's on Osh....Not Walters then you are truly blind and yeah...in the nutsac hanging club. And the fact we have defaut starters set in stone before camp even starts is an issue...as is the fact we don't even consider replacing some whether it be via draft...FA...Scouting or trdae is also another...Sure Walter's is the G.M....But only a fool would believe that Osh gets way too much say in who we retain....who we target...and who gets on roster....and that too has to change or the 2 cup wins 5 yrs ago now will be 10...15 in a heartbeat....getting there and flopping is not a success....and we gonna be in a fight for 3rd as it's going now...and all avoidable yeah...totally agree with your first part...without a doubt....but also players were brought in...and we continue to cling to no good anymore vets...ST only slugs who offer nothing other than that...and poor allocation of assets on the PR....Thats not on Walters...Walters doesn't pick the final roster...Osh does....and then when things arent working...we never deviate......Thats the issue.....can't say guys the scouts brought in are not good when they dont get the chance to show....right? And when you see game and game again of guys who clearly are not prime anymore...but still trot em out there....well...we get more and more of what we saw last 2 games...again...Thats the HC...

yeah....4 reps.....is a real indicator..cmon man you better than that....especially when they all space out...dline guys need to get consistant and steady reps to get in game groove....Walters didnt cut...or not roster guys...blame Walters all you want but he has minimal impact on the game day doings....none actually Get off Osh's nutsac...we know you are pro Osh but he the problem more than anyone else....and as much as upi dont wanna admit it a lot of defections are not just for money.....it's the way they used here...or better yet...not

Or what Lawler and Woli gave on scrambles...that's huge...3 guys who feasted on that gone and not replaced Demski can only do so much and teams will sit on him to bait ZC...we already have seen a ton of that last 2 yrs Clercius is learning but it's on the fly so hes gonna have hiccups...like the Pick at goaline And as we have nobody else who offers any threat it's pretty easy to take Wheatfall away as hes still learning on the fly too We are pretty handcuffed on offence...self imposed too...a guy who could help us is Mitchell as he knows where to go...sit down...recognizes when to break off a route but we using this excuse he isnt good inside..well time to coach players and scheme things to have things work...you can catch...get open...run...a pro team will find your spot...and if they can't then there is big issues 11 yrs...long time..things get stale and stop working...especially when you don't wanna believe it and change how you go about your business...after the last 2 losses there should be multiple changes..maybe a shift in who's getting reps too...and almost dumbing things down in some regards to perfect it...then install more...we are our own worst enemies...we being coaching and management

Same thoughts...lack of depth and retention is on HC....Guys wont wanna stay...and its happened....recruitment has been fine but when none get a chance it's easy to lay blame on the G.M....We had a scout leave us for this very reason Cant say next guy is up is better....but how would you know....not know when the HC refuses to play them....and we had way better athletes and players in camp we got rid of....some buried on PR/IR and people can argue the point all they want that they must not be soley cause Dear Leader hasn't rostered them....and thats just false...I strongly feel his eye for talent is poor, and if guys like Thomsd...Korn...Kolo...Schmeck...Kramdi...TJones...Bridges..Sterns....Case....Punter...lesser extent Wilson....Hallett....Gauthier...is what he feels is top notch then yeah sadly we in a very bad spot and it's all Osh as at end of day he decides the roster....and puts the guys out there.... Same with game day decisions...player sets...play calls...etc.......who do you think has 80% control of that...HC....Why you think he has his play card he is constantly looking at....referring to....reading off of as he covers his yap with it so not to be lip read.....he's dictating who/what he wants out there for most part...dependant on time...down/distance.....situ.....and his coord will try to best facilitate it....If people here think he is not controlling any of that in-game you are sadly wrong....thats not how it goes...Co-ord may put his defensive system together for most part....but it's for the HC to use........fact

both those moves make total sense....even give Vibert a game as the 7th oline and use on Jumbo...Short yardage....Christ hate to even say it but Scmeck would make more sense/use as he does well on short yardage push and give him some reps ahead of Jake.....if he shows he still hasn't got much then let him go and fill that PR spot with someone else If Vaval cant go....curious how Osh will use that extra DA spot....or how he will waste it....Does Mitchel get a chance to show anything....Is this J.Jones chance to get on and hopefully show he should never come off? Maybe we will just play a guy short like last yr when we had a guy slapped on the roster as a GTD and brought nobody else...just in case, and just in case happened but we didnt bring anyone....another excellent roster management/coaching blunder that is likely forgotten here by most...seeing as there are so many piling up

it's been suffering for 2 seasons...and 2 main reasons....QB....scheme/gameplan and lack of any adjustments and now factor in personnel for reason 3

really?...If Novack cant go Ball?.....good god....like we dont have enough ST only guys who won't make any impact.....not surprising tho we would do that kind of move

I had planned to haha...I could prob get my way into closed if I tried hard enough but don't feel much like a negotiation type today lol

anyone know if todays practice is closed...or open?

crapped them worse than the first game really....

Sure cgy as good teams do watched a lot of film...on down and distance...feild position...and were sitting all over that just waiting...I don't blame strev either and really there is nothing different he could have really done...did it exactly as.drawn up Just a dumb call and we had our lunch eaten before we even snapped the ball Good coaching got us there....and the good wasn't ourS

Lawler....whom we shoudla kept

and usually thats one the only things that coms out his yapper that you can take as truth...rest a bunch of B.S nonesense and non answers

coaching has killed us in all 3 losses....and part of that is the player gap where said coaching continues to roll out the inferior player...or this need to start 9...10 Canadians when not needed...who cares if they gunning for that extra pick in Canadian draft....we have enough later round...even earlier round slugs who dont really help us...and that extra couple Canadians starting are not elite guys clearly better than any import option...just a HC personal choice....

yeah he has progressed for sure...still tho in a tough spot and likely gets another PR yr in him....which is a benefit to us as he will get way better training and coaching there for when he is out of chances and wants to actually play and makes his way here...

yeah...another good whallop and could be curtains for the season if he back too soon and yeah...another unprepared looking performance....no answers to anything let alone adjustments and some serious changing of things needs to happen...dare I say heads roll....start with players...maybe game day responsibilities on the coaching side of things...because another stinker for similar reasons isnt a one off...or just a bad game...its a trend and what we are/have become

If 4 ineffectual guys is doing something I guess that's success...of the 4 who is making a difference? Or is top 4 in league...there were 3 or 4 guys available we could have signed. But opted for basically scraps

Anyone know practice sched this week...have some free time so may venture down

Yeah...A 6'7 350 pound Canadian tackle who runs a sub 5 forty...one who and NFL team traded up for in the NFL draft...I'd take a flyer He was raw at first down there last yr and had improved alot...but still may be seen as a project and long shot so could be cut...be a stud here tho...if he ends up here we are laughing...guy will dominate

And the HC has input...and also signs off on a lot of the scheme and playbook...game plan...basically sets his roster...sure he gets input but it's his final.decision and yes from experience will dictate who he wants to see reps...he in constant convo with coords during game...hence the headset..it's not just for spotter to tell him to throw a flag...and this is from experience...not an opinion or assumption He's the headcoach and good and bad...yes it lands on him Also again...from experience he can and does have say in plays and personel to run it...and again...thays experience talking...not opinion. And the HC will override a lot...or suggest a specific set or formation for particular down and distance.. and who he wants...and the Cordinators do best to facilitate it...based on what they provided for players...and in a lot of critical plays...situation it's the HC making the decisions...hence head coach....no offence here but I think you are a little mislead or unsure of how things actually take place. He definitely needs to start coaching and getting involved and discard the self governing...and in some regards his involvement needs to be changed...

Yup...he be an automatic addition for sure Who you talking about?