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The whole roster management thing goes soo far back. And is hand in hand with acceptable mediocrity from mos guys. Weve seen more rando fringe players up jumped to starting for part or all of a season only to instantly disappear when we finally move on. Thomas discussion was heavy early in 2021 when we would slaughter opposing offences, but then randomly give up huge runs and ypc but teams couldn’t hang long enough to keep running. Then stove came back from injury and the only soft spot in the D disappeared. We went through countless imp wrs, some of whom left very bitter because they didn’t get a chance despite the level of play we endured. Every year for as long as I can remember we’ve started out with entrenched dbs who can’t hang. Ever since jsk left we haven’t given new lbers a real chance to shine and our usage has gotten worse and worse. We’ve DI’d guys only to not use them at all more times than I can count too. The thing that changed is for a couple years our over all talent in comparison to the league was soo much higher especially on the line that we could over come it. And now we can’t.

If he was, the extra reps weren’t high value.

To be fair, football across all levels and leagues loves athletes who pop off the page above all other attributes. I mean gable Stevenson just got an nfl contract having never played a snap of football at any level. Not even pop warner. The attitude in football has always been take the athlete, and make them a player. Use strategy and tactics to cover for them and exploit their talents in the mean time. It’s not the only time we’ve seen this, lesnar, to Olympic sprinters, to pitchers quitting in the minors to play football etc. Football, has the highest barrier for entry in terms of athleticism and size. If you look at our roster, we have a bunch of guys with middling experience at best in football at the last level. You make your roster around the athletically dominant, and fill in the rest with low ceiling high floor blood n guts role guys like Thomas and hallett. We are trying to build a sky scraper with no beams and 70% glue.

If by a big part of your cap hit you mean 4th or 5th highest on offence, and less than the last two ol we lost to free agency, you should re evaluate your position. 3 of the highest paid wrs in the league are here who average about 15k more than Brady. We have guys at other positions like wj earning comparable money. To say Brady’s deal is a mistake is silly. Too much old money, not enough young talent.

He’s on a rookie ni scale deal lol. In time id love to see a 21 form set with clercius and mci as tes at some point. If both those guys run routes who do you have cover them? If they block do you have dbs try to beat the block?

Yeah he’s gonna be scary good. Forget being able to have him and Brady on the field together or being able to reduce the load on Brady to extend his career, dude has the whole package.

Definitely expect heavy sets and 40 plus passing attempts. I especially expect to see more screens, the pa roll out crosser and other high percentage passes.

You aren’t investing in the position, it’s the passport, athlete and soft skills that’s being invested in. You have to invest in every ni prospect. We virtually never see guys come from good d1 programs, with the type of resume an imp would have, and no nfl experience. Investing time and coaching is far better than more cap space as well.

Yep. He has the right work ethic, desire, character and football iq. He needs a lot of coaching in terms of his running position, angles and reading the play. Even Brady needed a good bit of time, work and adjustments to be what he is today. Lots of people were ready to toss him away for Augustine not that long ago. No position is a turn key instant starter for an ni.

Rb is less easy here as well, due to the reads required in our tight zone scheme, the blocking demands and the ability to pass catch. Plus as we saw in week 1, the exchange alone in an option offence isn’t easy for the rb.

It’s easy because the market is saturated with high talent guys and rbs generally aren’t converted position guys. Ike has about 100 college carries and under 500 rush yards despite his years down south. That isn’t plug and play as we well saw in pre season. That’s not how blocking assignments work at rb. That’s how they work at the line. RBs have to read the pressure on both sides, evaluate who has the fastest path, which isn’t automatically the inside guy, pick up a block and half the time here block and release. Augustine still can’t do it, neither can stanback. Spending time as a back up doesn’t earn you a starting job. Karamoko has been here longer than most of the rest of the dbs. Augustine can run, but isn’t able to push the pile and grind out yards which is what our offence needs, and can’t pass pro which is as important. No ones mad about Kevens being on the roster, he had 600 yards in almost 40 games of college ball. He isn’t a top threat but he doesn’t need to be for his role here. Or to slide woli over and play wolis role.

That was a big part of what made me sick about it. Basically, no matter the reality of the situation, mos will think Zachs the best. Another guy who will have to be carried off the field and roster. A big part of the job of a HC, is making the hard decisions with players. Do not recommend lol

This is 100% true. I’d bet we were in 30 fronts more than 40 last week.

Yep sure would be nice. imagine running a bear front with, wj pass rushing on the nose, Adam’s and Oakman playing 2 technique, then Habba in a 5 taking a tight angle speed rush around the edge and Cole on the other side taking a wide angle speed route around the tackle on the other side. 5 rushers, massive disruption in the pocket. You could drop guys out of that look, twist guys, run a 1 and 2i/3 twist, you can have a mac spy and play a decent medium zone in case an A gap running route opens. But most qbs don’t want the risk of a 5 yard gain running through an interior gap.

All we have to do is wait for a generationally good roster to overcome his weaknesses! lol. this type of roster management/mediocre acceptance is a good way to build up another 20-30 year steak with out a ship.

Lawler, the huge deals to biggie at times, wj, jj we’ve spent lots of premium 100-125k on fringe roster guys while going cheap on dbs. Qbs make that money for starting the cfl. 500k is NOT in the mike Reilly bc contract range hurting the team. Like I said previously in the off season, the move to make was keep brown and bring stevy back while trading Zach away. At some point you have to go young at qb. Better to get value, keep a home grown talent and have a change of pace valuable back up who can take over in case of failure, than riding a mid 30 qb into his careers grave. We would’ve saved impactful money, moved on from more vets, and might’ve been better this year over all any way.

Boy we better not leave Augustine on the field a lot in pass pro or zachs gonna have a worse game than last week. Augustine gets hurt our run game is done for too. why keep on ayers who gets no snaps over woods? Why carry soo many Imp wrs that won’t see the field or the ball? I have a sickly sinking feeling about this game

Hated soo much of that interview. Every coach and style has a shelf life. Some times you can shake it up with management changing the tone, mark frequently you have to make a painful change. I don’t see us missing the play offs unless some thing crazy happens at qb, and I don’t see us making a change like that this year or maybe next too.

Yep different guy. He did however have a very good career as a kr down there and had couple sick plays up here. His diving grab in the end zone for one. he was a guy with nutty speed, ran track with Vinny Sutherland who was here similar time and I think Santana moss. Ohh snap. I do love db but he’s better in pre game post game stuff.

Marion would actually be worth a look imo. Roster him instead of schmekel, gives us a back up rotational ni de who contributes on teams. Salary, age, and the fact they have young talented guys to who stepped in.

I love what the guy brings. But it’s pretty low priority Imo. Adam’s is a monster woods is damned good. Fox is a beast. Thomas has compromising pictures of mos. Oakman Adam’s fox rotation would be insane.

He doesn’t get along with losing attitudes. He was beloved in the locker room and by coaches here, with the broncos and with the vols. He’s a no nonsense kind of guy and calls out bs as he sees it.

Edm ott ssk are the prime candidates imo. First team to move on ringmaiden will be very very happy. QFT Teams and D each played to win the game solo. O alternated between playing to win and game managing. But all 3 phases put in the work to be the reason we won. None seem to be in that position now. Sad but true.

That’s a fair point. In that case they should’ve brought him in during the off season. Let him set the tone in camp. Hard to lead joining a team mid season. Kongbo would’ve been even better for that imo.

100%. If you are an agent that reps football players, and you have an imp rb, and we offer them a deal going into camp, what do you do? Get this guy to up root his life go to another country, risk injury for modest money and no chance at playing? I suspect the large portion of good prospects we sign are neg list. Come here or no cfl, or low level guys playing d2 and lower or schools that barely register when it comes to football. We managed to bring in a bunch of long term nl guys with tons of upside this camp, and hardly any are left. I don’t have hope that we will have such a bumper crop next year. Even cfl vets. Who wants to come here? We bring in guys like Rosie and Muhammad, and leave them on the pr while struggling at their position. We had a lot of trouble attracting key free agents prior to 19/21. We got spurned by virtually every major fa wr. Biggie fell to us because when he left the nfl we were the team with an opening and cap spend. We made wj the highest paid dl in the league. A guy like McManis would never sign here given another option in the league. We even passed on lemon to play a dt at de which bit us in the butt last year. Our only chances at improving are vets retiring and leaving no option, vets leaving in fa for over pay leaving no option, hitting the lotto in the cfl draft, and guys becoming all stars late in their career. Some one in the top end of the mafia needs to put on some big boy pants and lay down the law. Improving the team is more important than having the team self coach accountability, more important than nationality, more important than the old boys club, and more important than being comfortable.