Taking a knee

[Taynted_Fayth]

Watching the game yesterday, there was a missed FG or PAT that when fielded by the argo player, he decided to dance around the endzone instead of clearly taking a knee and conceid the 1pt as bomber player came flying in and took him out at the legs. Should this not be worth 2pts if (just as banks just did) the other team can score 2pts returning the missed kick.

 

if it was a missed FG id even take it further and consider it a safety and not only give up 2pts but kick the ball back, (i believe a missed FG return for a TD is worth 6).  it would get rid of that stupid time wasting end zone running around anyways, you either take it out,  take a knee or risk giving it up.

 

also curious can a ball be stripped in such a scenerio?

[Brandon]

The ball most definitely can be stripped...  it happened back in the day against Hamilton where we stripped the ball in the endzone of a missed field goal which resulted in a TD.

[Dragon37]

If the returner had left the end zone and gone back and had been tackled it would count as two. Missed and not conceded and tackled, conceded, or missed through the end zone is a rouge. Because the ball is live missed and return is a TD. Think of it as a kick-off. A missed PAT returned the other way is only one point a returned two pointer is worth two.

[SPuDS]

If the returner had left the end zone and gone back and had been tackled it would count as two. Missed and not conceded and tackled, conceded, or missed through the end zone is a rouge. Because the ball is live missed and return is a TD. Think of it as a kick-off. A missed PAT returned the other way is only one point a returned two pointer is worth two.

Thats correct.. Returner has to break the plane of the goal line and then retreat on their own (forward progress would stop at past goal line if they cross and are pushed back..) just like a QB taking the snap at the 1 and dropping back into the endzone and getting sacked.

[Taynted_Fayth]

I think my issue is more with a guy clearly taking a knee to give up the point, and another for a guy to dink around the end zone running around, and if hes caught/tackled before taking that knee, as the argo player was, it should have some ramifications

[JuranBoldenRules]

If the returner had left the end zone and gone back and had been tackled it would count as two. Missed and not conceded and tackled, conceded, or missed through the end zone is a rouge. Because the ball is live missed and return is a TD. Think of it as a kick-off. A missed PAT returned the other way is only one point a returned two pointer is worth two.

A convert returned by the defense in Canadian football is always worth 2 points.

To the OP, the returner isn't conceding s point on a PAT. If they really cared about what you are talking about on FG's they'd adopt the Football Canada rule of putting the ball on the 20 if the ball is returned out of the end zone.

[Taynted_Fayth]

brandon banks took one back in hamiltons loss yesterday, it was worth 2, first one Ive seen, seems like soo much effort for so few points

[Dragon37]

If the returner had left the end zone and gone back and had been tackled it would count as two. Missed and not conceded and tackled, conceded, or missed through the end zone is a rouge. Because the ball is live missed and return is a TD. Think of it as a kick-off. A missed PAT returned the other way is only one point a returned two pointer is worth two.

A convert returned by the defense in Canadian football is always worth 2 points.

To the OP, the returner isn't conceding s point on a PAT. If they really cared about what you are talking about on FG's they'd adopt the Football Canada rule of putting the ball on the 20 if the ball is returned out of the end zone.

Thanks, I stand corrected.

[Dragon37]

brandon banks took one back in hamiltons loss yesterday, it was worth 2, first one Ive seen, seems like soo much effort for so few points

I agree. I think Howell returned one for us many years ago and that was the only one I ever saw.

[bearpants]

 

If the returner had left the end zone and gone back and had been tackled it would count as two. Missed and not conceded and tackled, conceded, or missed through the end zone is a rouge. Because the ball is live missed and return is a TD. Think of it as a kick-off. A missed PAT returned the other way is only one point a returned two pointer is worth two.

A convert returned by the defense in Canadian football is always worth 2 points.

To the OP, the returner isn't conceding s point on a PAT. If they really cared about what you are talking about on FG's they'd adopt the Football Canada rule of putting the ball on the 20 if the ball is returned out of the end zone.

 

 

I didn't realize that was a rule until I saw it in play in the Bisons/UBC game on Saturday... if you saw the score, I didn't watch too much in the second half...