Noeller Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 But doesn't this "trade with Columbus story" mesh really nicely with Bob McKenzie's story from last night? All of a sudden it all doesn't seem so crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: I can't see Chevy trading away this pick, he likes more developing through the draft not wheeling and dealing. Not his MO. I don't see him pulling the trigger on this. And how would that change with this proposed trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, JCon said: And how would that change with this proposed trade? By the wheel and deal feel to this, the higher risk incurred and potentially not getting the best player you could get in the draft outside of Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said: By the wheel and deal feel to this, the higher risk incurred and potentially not getting the best player you could get in the draft outside of Matthews. But the point I was making is that if the Jets had already decided Pulu was the guy, why not make a deal with CBJ? Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just now, JCon said: But the point I was making is that if the Jets had already decided Pulu was the guy, why not make a deal with CBJ? True, but why make a deal unless you can manipulate their desperation, you don't have to trade away the pick to get him if that's the case. We are in the position of strength, CBJ is not. Seth Jones sounds good. And for the record, my opinion, with trying to cancel out the hype, is PL is the man to take if Matthews isn't selected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 I've been wondering about a Columbus trade too. I was thinking they'd want Trouba as part of the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 If Columbus is willing to overpay because they're desperate to make sure they get Laine.......you look long and hard at it, for sure. Not really sure what I'd want from them, tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) No no no y would Columbus give up one of these guys just to swap 3 to 2nd? Unless they see a superstar in Laine? Whoever gets the best player in a deal wins.You don't trade a franchise player away...... unless your forced to.Thank god Chevy stays the course with draft picks... . Edited June 23, 2016 by bb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 So if Puljujarvi is virtually the same as Laine, as some here postulate, then why wouldn't Columbus just sit and wait for him at #3? bb1 and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Just gonna throw this out there, but Columbus's manager just happens to be Finnish, does he know something we don't. bb1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Noeller said: If Columbus is willing to overpay because they're desperate to make sure they get Laine.......you look long and hard at it, for sure. Not really sure what I'd want from them, tho... My thought was a trade to so we'd have 2 & 3. It would take Trouba + to get it done though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Can't see Columbus wanting to pass on one of those Top 3 guys, tho....that would be pretty silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Murray is an UFA in two years and has to be protected but I like picking up Werenski... Trouba and 2nd overall for Werenski, Gabriel Carlsson, Wennberg and 3rd overall. Trade 1st rounders with Vancouver and they also add Virtanen and a 2nd from this year. Jets lose 2nd overall and Trouba for Virtanen, Werenski, Carlsson, Wennberg and 5th overall where Tkachuk or PLD should still be available and 35th overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Ducky said: Murray is an UFA in two years and has to be protected but I like picking up Werenski... Trouba and 2nd overall for Werenski, Gabriel Carlsson, Wennberg and 3rd overall. Trade 1st rounders with Vancouver and they also add Virtanen and a 2nd from this year. Jets lose 2nd overall and Trouba for Virtanen, Werenski, Carlsson, Wennberg and 5th overall where Tkachuk or PLD should still be available and 35th overall. Just add in the moon and u would be set up!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Columbus can't afford trouba. Anyone check their cap? It's not possible They don't even have the space to sign Seth Jones. They are screwed. Murray is actually an rfa in 2 years. He was drafted 2nd overall the same year trouba was drafted 9th overall. Rfa. Just signed a 2 year bridge. Most I'd do since it's Columbus wanting Laine over Puljujarvi is 2 plus Roslovic for 3 plus Werenski. If Columbus wants Laine that bad and the Jets feel that the difference between Laine and Puljujarvi isn't as huge as some think... Columbus is the one adding to move to 2... not the Jets Edited June 24, 2016 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Boy you sure want to unload Roslovic, almost as bad as some here want to unload Myers. Brandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) A good point on 1290 today, the Jets would surely make a trade with the Columbus if they planned on picking JP, get some assets for the difference between 2nd and 3rd. Edited June 24, 2016 by IC Khari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 39 minutes ago, IC Khari said: A good point on 1290 today, the Jets would surely make a trade with the Columbus if they planned on picking JP, get some assets for the difference between 2nd and 3rd. Why would Columbus pay anything if they know Pool party is still there at 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: Why would Columbus pay anything if they know Pool party is still there at 3? If they want Laine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Oh I see. If the Jets wanted Pool party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Interesting note from Elliotte Friedman's always-interesting 30 Thoughts: 3. If you were Edmonton, would you make this offer: the fourth overall pick to the Winnipeg Jets for Jacob Trouba and pick No. 22? You’d have to know you could sign Trouba, for sure. But I wonder how the Jets would feel about going back to Manitoba with Patrik Laine and Matthew Tkachuk. They’d probably be in a better mood this weekend than, say, the European Union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I don't understand why we would ever want to dump defensemen for forwards, other than this whole expansion draft talk. We walk away from the draft with Laine and Tkachuk? Great, where the hell do all these forwards play? Without getting into line combinations, that's Laine, Connor, Wheeler, Tkachuk, Little, Perreault, Ehlers, Scheifele, Dano, Armia, Lowry, Copp in our 12 - not factoring in Stafford (who will be gone) or any of our forward prospects. If anything, we need to be condensing the amount of forward prospects we have, not trading potential #1 D-men for more of them. Atomic, rebusrankin and Ducky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mike said: I don't understand why we would ever want to dump defensemen for forwards, other than this whole expansion draft talk. We walk away from the draft with Laine and Tkachuk? Great, where the hell do all these forwards play? Without getting into line combinations, that's Laine, Connor, Wheeler, Tkachuk, Little, Perreault, Ehlers, Scheifele, Dano, Armia, Lowry, Copp in our 12 - not factoring in Stafford (who will be gone) or any of our forward prospects. If anything, we need to be condensing the amount of forward prospects we have, not trading potential #1 D-men for more of them. Because it's fun to make fantasy trades? IC Khari and Ducky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Its not a terrible trade if the Trouba negotiations arent going well. Although I wonder if Edmonton would take pick 36 rather than 22 (or a throw-in forward). And I think it only happens because of the expansion draft. There is simply no way the Jets can lose any of their top D for nothing. But they have several forwards they could lose. Having "extra" forwards isnt an issue if you can package up 2 or 3 of them for a D. If the Jets picked #2 and #4 and lost Trouba, I wouldnt be surprised to see them be aggressive in getting a young D who is expansion draft exempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Sources say Jets are taking Puljujarvi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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