Floyd Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Chicago has $50 million of capspace tied up long-term... no way they can sign Ladd for 6x6 Let's say Chicago wins the cup... if I'm Ladd, that's three cups... now find a nice city and max out your cash If they don't win, sign a one year deal and try again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 hahaha house is up for sale so the wife has nowhere to live? You think she is moving to Chi-town within a week? Gimme a break. Low chance of him signing but if you listen to Chevy's interview he does say that he had had multiple talks with Ladd's people in the last few weeks and they have an area where his market value is. Chevy said no door is closed but someone will give him a longer term and more cashola than Chevy will and rightly so. The convo... Agent: Ladd can get x amount of dollars as an UFA. Chevy: I'm not willing to pay that. I'll give you y amount of dollars. Agent: We'll see what we can get an an UFA then. Chevy: Okay, talk to you this summer. Chevy: Stan, will you throw in a 3rd in 2018 if you win the cup this year? Bowman: Jeezus H. Chevy..............ya, okay but it is done today. Chevy: Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Mark F said: You accept the things people say to the media at face value. I don't. You cherrypicked a real well written post in a really dumb way, that's why you got the reply. Don't comment on what I accept or don't accept, as you have no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I sure am glad Chevy decided to deal with Buff and eventually sign him and we are not talking about how much we gave Ladd and had to let Buff go and what we got back for Buff. Chevy signed the right guy and then got a fair deal for Ladd. New_Earth_Mud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 I would say the chances of Ladd resigning here would be slim and none, many veteran free agents will see a soft market this year if the cap goes down. Teams are going younger and the money goes to the select few superstars Ladd does not fall in that category. Ladd has moved on and so should we as Chevy has some major challenges in the future, by the way i also believe that Stafford will be gone next year as will Perreault, and Little the following year. After Buffs contract is done i think there will no players that came from Atlanta with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 They're getting rid of CHIAROT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 1 minute ago, bustamente said: I would say the chances of Ladd resigning here would be slim and none, many veteran free agents will see a soft market this year if the cap goes down. Teams are going younger and the money goes to the select few superstars Ladd does not fall in that category. Ladd has moved on and so should we as Chevy has some major challenges in the future, by the way i also believe that Stafford will be gone next year as will Perreault, and Little the following year. After Buffs contract is done i think there will no players that came from Atlanta with the team. Little and Wheeler will still be here I think... need some vet leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 10 minutes ago, Jimmy Pop said: You cherrypicked a real well written post in a really dumb way, that's why you got the reply. Don't comment on what I accept or don't accept, as you have no clue. His version is much better though - the media has been lying to us. Just imagine the scene in early 2015 - Chevy and Ladd's agent are together in Chevy's office, watching Weekend at Bernie's... Chevy: "We plan on making no attempt to re-sign Ladd. We do not want him. I repeat, we do not want him." Agent: "That's fine. He does not want to be here. So how should we proceed?" Chevy: "Every once in a while I'll leak out a lie. Something about us talking." Agent: "Alright. And I'll leak out a random dollar amount or term to one of those douchenozzles at TSN." Chevy: "Why do they only hire ex-Leafs for their panels?" Agent: "I have no idea. Ready for Weekend at Bernie's 2? I have to do something for all this billable hours I'm going to pretend to use on this." Chevy: "You know I'm always game for some more Bernie." Agent: "But what should we do if someone gets wise to us? You know, doesn't take what the media says at face value?" Chevy: "I don't know. A man that wise and perceptive? I don't think one exists." Agent: "Alright. A year and a half of fake negotiations, here we come. Pass the popcorn." Ducky, johnzo, Jimmy Pop and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Mark F made a good point. Mbrg is a positivity bully. Always insulting anyone who doesn't agree with the official Jets/Bombers line. Despicable behaviour really. Floyd, SPuDS and mbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jimmy Pop said: edit Quote Edited February 27, 2016 by Mark F FrostyWinnipeg and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 20 hours ago, Ducky said: hahaha house is up for sale so the wife has nowhere to live? You think she is moving to Chi-town within a week? Gimme a break. Low chance of him signing but if you listen to Chevy's interview he does say that he had had multiple talks with Ladd's people in the last few weeks and they have an area where his market value is. Chevy said no door is closed but someone will give him a longer term and more cashola than Chevy will and rightly so. The convo... Agent: Ladd can get x amount of dollars as an UFA. Chevy: I'm not willing to pay that. I'll give you y amount of dollars. Agent: We'll see what we can get an an UFA then. Chevy: Okay, talk to you this summer. Chevy: Stan, will you throw in a 3rd in 2018 if you win the cup this year? Bowman: Jeezus H. Chevy..............ya, okay but it is done today. Chevy: Deal. I thought that was interesting because ladd had just said there were no talks since Christmas. I don't think one of them lying per se. I think the talks were nothing substantive that required the agent informing ladd. in fact the way Chevy worded it sounded to me like the talks were more around compromf notes on market value and what the jets could get in a trade and where the best places to send him were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bustamente Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Once Buff was signed Ladd was probably told he would not be giving him time to get certain affairs in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I think i might prefer that deal with Florida. Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 I wonder if Florida was a team on Ladd's list. Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, Rich said: I wonder if Florida was a team on Ladd's list. Good point. Although if they got that far along I'd sort of suspect it was. I'd hope he'd not be overly concerned where he plays the next few weeks knowing that wherever it is is a contender. Maybe the relationship between the Jets and Hawks played a role. Maybe the Hawks us a favour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Good point. Although if they got that far along I'd sort of suspect it was. I'd hope he'd not be overly concerned where he plays the next few weeks knowing that wherever it is is a contender. Maybe the relationship between the Jets and Hawks played a role. Maybe the Hawks us a favour... Great question. Ladd likely to get 6x6 with dumb teams(ex. FLA) but CHI perennial contender so he might accept long term but lesser $ deal with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 The contract Ladd will get now will be more expensive than the one he was due to get when Chicago traded him away the first time because they couldn't afford him. And Byfuglien. That would have to be the hometown discount to end all hometown discounts for him to fit financially on that roster next season. Speaking of his hometown, I wonder if Vancouver is a possible landing spot for him once free agency rolls around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 On 2016-02-26 at 4:07 PM, Atomic said: Mark F made a good point. Mbrg is a positivity bully. Always insulting anyone who doesn't agree with the official Jets/Bombers line. Despicable behaviour really. Positivity bully? I was shooting for logic enforcer. FrostyWinnipeg, bearpants and Jimmy Pop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 If Ladd plays lights out they might try to find a way....Bowman is scary good. He's as good a GM as his dad was a coach. I doubt it though. I'd take that trade with Florida over what we did easily. Wouldn't have to think about it. With some of the Jets' prospects on the smaller side, Crouse would even that up a bit. I don't believe Chevy would take Dano and an inferior (probably) pick over that trade with Florida. 38 minutes ago, mbrg said: The contract Ladd will get now will be more expensive than the one he was due to get when Chicago traded him away the first time because they couldn't afford him. And Byfuglien. That would have to be the hometown discount to end all hometown discounts for him to fit financially on that roster next season. Speaking of his hometown, I wonder if Vancouver is a possible landing spot for him once free agency rolls around. Vrbata and Hamhuis are probably coming off of the books and that is a saving of 9.5m and Prust at 2.5m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Funny. Cuz tsn reported that Florida backed off when they heard the asking price was a 1st and top prospect. So who knows what's true. Doubt Florida offered Crouse and Crouse is kind of over rated anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Perhaps more likely jets asked for crouse and Florida backed off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 He might be over-rated but his ceiling is as high or higher than Dano's and his bottom is a very good, very big, 3rd LWer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 15 hours ago, Ducky said: He might be over-rated but his ceiling is as high or higher than Dano's and his bottom is a very good, very big, 3rd LWer. Since I have seen little to make me think that Dano has any ceiling you are damning Crouse with faint praise here. I liked what I saw of Crouse at the World Juniors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 28, 2016 Report Share Posted February 28, 2016 Crouse is just a big player, similar to Lowry. Danos ceiling is much higher. People get caught up on size a little 2 much. That was what the Jets were asking for, just like they apparently asked Chicago for Teuvo Teravainen at first. Flordia balked, Chicago said we will give you Dano instead. Jets took it. Crouse is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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