The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: I doubt the Islanders give up Hamonic for Ladd unless they think they can sign him long term. Now of course, if we threw in Myers into the deal... Certainly they wouldnt right now. But what if Hamonic was a part of the deal as a future consideration? Ie. They get Ladd now, we get Hamonic in the summer? Other pieces involved to be sure. But in sort of a Buffalo scenario, we dont need any "help" right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 35 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: The islanders interest me though because I would think talks might include to a degree, Hamonic. Probably not right now as they'd want him for the playoffs, but some sort of future consideration. That would be an interesting move. Make a deadline trade with the Islanders that includes future considerations that becomes Hamonic when the playoffs are over. I can't think of an instance where something like that has ever happened before. Is that even legal? There would have to be a lot of concern from the Jets if he got hurt while still playing for the Islanders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Just now, sweep the leg said: That would be an interesting move. Make a deadline trade with the Islanders that includes future considerations that becomes Hamonic when the playoffs are over. I can't think of an instance where something like that has ever happened before. Is that even legal? There would have to be a lot of concern from the Jets if he got hurt while still playing for the Islanders. yeah, this falls under the "seemed like a good idea at the time" category, until something goes horribly wrong, and given its the Jets, it would be horribly wrong for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well if the Isles said something like we'd offer our first and this prospect OR you throw in this and we'll give you Hamonic later and maybe we exchange picks...I'd listen. The caveat could be a Jets option to choose Hamonic or an alternative if they choose which protects them from injury. But realistically, it would have to be a devastating injury to still not be worth it. And that's generally unlikely. Doesnt seem to be many Future Consideration trades anymore. The closest we get is an either/or draft pick based on resigning or playoff success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 20 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: I doubt the Islanders give up Hamonic for Ladd unless they think they can sign him long term. Now of course, if we threw in Myers into the deal... I'm only trading Myers for Pokka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Floyd said: I'm only trading Myers for Pokka. ok, well you do that. I'll stick to trading him for players that are actually proven, and who I might have heard of. EDIT - oh wait, I missed the sarcasm, my fault. I'm only trading Myers to Edmonton for Taylor Hall. Hee hee... Edited February 25, 2016 by kelownabomberfan Jimmy Pop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Of course the longer this goes with Ladd, the debate rages on whether he should be playing or not. I can see both sides...but man, if Ladd were to go down in a meaningless game that could be devastating. He's scored 7 in his last 10 - hasn't he already proved "he's back" to the Ladd we're used to? Very interesting to see how Maurice handles the next few games before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's not that I think we should trade Myers, I think we should trade a RHD and Myers is the one that should be traded. We need a true shutdown D man and we don't have one. I'd do Myers for Drouin but I think TB needs to add. Myers and 3rd for Hamonic although his agent says a TD trad is unlikely. Ladd and Myers for Kempe, 2017 1st, 2016 2nd and ? + ?. Pavs and 5th for Hiller. Ladd to Caps for 1st in 2017 and Bowey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Goalie said: Elliott Friedman said jets were front runners on Drouin. As for nyi and Florida cooling off. . Guess they are just pretenders and not contenders The Isles I can see not being interested but you would think Florida would be. The Isles will be going through a bit of change this off-season losing Okposo and Hamonic to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Here's hoping the Canucks don't beat us to the punch and get a deal with Chicago done!! Possible Canucks trade with Blackhawks has legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'd take Ladd over both of those guys for a playoff run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 That's Bowman using the Canucks for leverage while dealing with Chevy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Yeah there will be loads of posturing. We're not used to this here and being in the eye of it. Andrew Little is the tippy top rental player this year so there will be tons of rumors, wild speculation and red herrings. GM 's will be calling bluffs, throwing up obstacles and trying to swing the best deal they can. Ultimately, Chevy is in the driver's seat. The opportunity for a rival is that they know Chevy loses big time if he doesnt trade Ladd. So someone is getting Ladd...you want to force Chevy as close to the deadline as possible and make him nervous about consummating things. Thats about the only leverage a rival has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Ladd will at least get you a first plus a prospect minimum even late on trade deadline day. The other teams are just throwing that out just to lower the ask. Come deadline day Chevy will get multiple offers and will squeeze more out from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 The deadline is Monday. Lots of time. Don't see any of the other names getting traded yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 17 hours ago, Goalie said: 3 hours ago, Ducky said: Pavs and 5th for Hiller. You think Cal not take Pavs straight up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I dunno, would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Talk of Bickell being a part of a Chicago deal now... worth it for the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) 4m caphit and 4.5m actual salary next year. Unless it was Staff and Ladd for Bickell and something amazing, I couldn't see the Jets doing it. Staf and Ladd for Bickell and Pokka and Dano and Scmaltz? I'd do that and play Bickell on the 4th or send him down to the minors for a year. We'd downgrade from Staf to Bickell but I think the Jets have the players to replace Staf next year and I would be shopping him around right now anyway. Pokka, Dano and Scmaltz are not hing to sneeze at. I wouldn't be surprised if all three are NHL ready next season. Dano might not be quite there yet but I think the other two are. Edited February 25, 2016 by Ducky grammar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Hahahaha That Chevy loves to leave things down to the wire doesn't he? Balls man, balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 21 minutes ago, Floyd said: Talk of Bickell being a part of a Chicago deal now... worth it for the Jets? Wouldn't the Hawks want him for their run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Would love for this to be all for naught, and have Ladd sign a last minute deal. Apparently, tho, Darren Dreger is saying he IS scratched tonight...... Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Wouldn't want to play poker against Chevy ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ladd will be a healthy scratch tonight. Lawless says Hawks and jets are close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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