Goalie Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Little is the number 1 center no ands ifs or buts really about it. He actually might be our best player overall. No chance he is third line center. Brandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Maurice said it might be Trouba moving to the left side and there is no reason to break up the Wheeler-Scheifele-Stafford line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 When it comes to players wanting to play here and giving a discount to stay, Im not as sure about Ladd. Which is to say I have no idea how he feels. We can only speculate. When the team moved here, he came here on his own dime to "check it out" did a ton of media. Signed a long term deal when he didnt have to. Rented Toews' condo that first season, got married, reported built a house and had two kids. Sounds like he was comfortable being here. But he has a wife and young children now. That will factor into it. He has an agent and probably an accountant who will give him advice that might involve "this is your last chance to make generational money" Buff signed his contract during the Thrashers' last season and I listened to an interview when he did and he was asked why would sign a long deal when the team might move and you dont know where and *gasp* it might even move to that hellhole Winnipeg? His response was I dont really care, Im here to win. And when pressed about 'yeah but Winnipeg?' he said sure why not, close to home I'd love to play there. So he seems pretty grounded. As for Copp, his Michigan coach sounds like sour grapes. If he's good enough to play in the NHL, then he should be happy for him not whining about how he loses his best player. Dont blame the NHL team either. If he doesnt like the system, talk to the NCAA and the NHL about changing the rules so the drafting team doesnt lose their rights if a player plays his full four years down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Buff is basically a home town guy with this team with Roseau only being a couple hours away. Plus he can be the face of franchise here not many other places he will be that. Get him a few free fishing trips up north a year and he will be satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Does Buff seem like the guy who likes the attention that comes from being the face of a franchise?? You guys are putting way too much weight into fan support being a determining factor. If we've learned nothing else, we've learned that most NHLers want to go somewhere that they're not noticed. They want to leave the rink and be able to hide from the world. This is why Winnipeg is in the Top 5 NTC markets... The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Have to wonder how much playing in Winnipeg will factor in for these ex-Atlanta guys... must be a huge difference coming to work to a capacity crowd that is pretty much insane instead of a half-empty barn. I think Buff and Ladd take 'hometown' discounts... The way they're playing right now, wouldn't be surprised to see something like this next year Perrault-Schiefele-Wheeler Ladd-Lowry-Frolik Ehlers-Little-Stafford Thorburn-Copp-Armia Buff-Trouba Enstrom-Myers Chiarot-Stuart Ladd and Lowry looking pretty good together - that's a pretty solid team if Copp and Armia are as good as they say. No Morressey? And you think they break up Scheif, Wheels and Staff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 When it comes to players wanting to play here and giving a discount to stay, Im not as sure about Ladd. Which is to say I have no idea how he feels. We can only speculate. When the team moved here, he came here on his own dime to "check it out" did a ton of media. Signed a long term deal when he didnt have to. Rented Toews' condo that first season, got married, reported built a house and had two kids. Sounds like he was comfortable being here. But he has a wife and young children now. That will factor into it. He has an agent and probably an accountant who will give him advice that might involve "this is your last chance to make generational money" Buff signed his contract during the Thrashers' last season and I listened to an interview when he did and he was asked why would sign a long deal when the team might move and you dont know where and *gasp* it might even move to that hellhole Winnipeg? His response was I dont really care, Im here to win. And when pressed about 'yeah but Winnipeg?' he said sure why not, close to home I'd love to play there. So he seems pretty grounded. As for Copp, his Michigan coach sounds like sour grapes. If he's good enough to play in the NHL, then he should be happy for him not whining about how he loses his best player. Dont blame the NHL team either. If he doesnt like the system, talk to the NCAA and the NHL about changing the rules so the drafting team doesnt lose their rights if a player plays his full four years down there. Ladd will stay IMO because hes our captain and he wont get that role if he leaves. That role means alot to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Does Buff seem like the guy who likes the attention that comes from being the face of a franchise?? You guys are putting way too much weight into fan support being a determining factor. If we've learned nothing else, we've learned that most NHLers want to go somewhere that they're not noticed. They want to leave the rink and be able to hide from the world. This is why Winnipeg is in the Top 5 NTC markets... With buff growing up in this hockey atmosphere, I'm confident in saying he likes it, even revels in it.. He never shies away from the spotlight, often mugging for the camera.. Id bet he loves his semi-celebrity status here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 If the Jets hadn't signed him, he would be eligible to go back into the draft this year....this is why he was signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Copp that is^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 I agree with Noeller that I dont think 'face of the franchise' is going to be a deciding factor for Buff. he seems like a pretty quiet guy. I think he would accept a fair deal. His current contract was signed pretty easily if I remember correctly and that was by a franchise that had no money or future. All things being equal, he shouldnt be hard to re-sign. But its the age he's at that could be the wrench because this is his last chance to sign a massive deal and the Jets will shy away from a long term deal. I think other considerations for him will be: - Where is he going to fit into the team (ie. Defence or Forward, which pairing, how much ice time) - is the team going to compete every year. I think its fair to say his committment level was lacking when the team sucked, from Atlanta into the first couple of years here. When the team showed compete and changed coaches he got into a lot better shape. Whereas he previously rejected playing forward, he accepted the role. We've heard Maurice say that Buff's attitude when injuries happened was "play me anywhere you need". He wants to compete and win. Being close to home might be a consideration though he signed his deal in Atlanta so what does that tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Have to wonder how much playing in Winnipeg will factor in for these ex-Atlanta guys... must be a huge difference coming to work to a capacity crowd that is pretty much insane instead of a half-empty barn. I think Buff and Ladd take 'hometown' discounts... The way they're playing right now, wouldn't be surprised to see something like this next year Perrault-Schiefele-Wheeler Ladd-Lowry-Frolik Ehlers-Little-Stafford Thorburn-Copp-Armia Buff-Trouba Enstrom-Myers Chiarot-Stuart Ladd and Lowry looking pretty good together - that's a pretty solid team if Copp and Armia are as good as they say. No Morressey? And you think they break up Scheif, Wheels and Staff? New_Earth_Mud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 chiarot and stuart scare the crap out of me, that's awful and i hope that isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Chiarot is a very good 3rd pairing D man....Stuart is here for his leadership but I would trade him in the off season. Stafford and Perrault interchangeable????????? Stafford is nowhere near the guy MP is on the PP and MP also has way better hands. FrostyWinnipeg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Chevy won't trade Stuart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 He won't trade Stuart but you have said he should trade Buff? ya, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Buff gets you way more than Stuart does. Not to mention Stuart is a left handed D and we aren't exactly loaded with LHD men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Well then we should trade Scheifele, Trouba and Little as they would get mote than Stuart too. On a side note, Armia has 0 goals in 14 games on the farm.....he won't be making the parent club playing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Ridiculous comparisons and you know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted March 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 ya Buff and Stuart is a pretty ridiculous comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Why would Chevy trade anyone? This is the best team we've had in a long time. Ducky and New_Earth_Mud 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Well then we should trade Scheifele, Trouba and Little as they would get mote than Stuart too. On a side note, Armia has 0 goals in 14 games on the farm.....he won't be making the parent club playing like that. And Klingberg has a point per game with his new AHL club... I wouldn't put to much stock into the stats. I don't follow the Ice Caps but looking purely at the stats on hockeydb it appears the club is a very low scoring club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I think Armia has been hurt too. And acclimating to new systems. Next season is a fresh start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Earth_Mud Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Why would Chevy trade anyone? This is the best team we've had in a long time. He wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I don't understand whey Stuart and Chiarot would be an awful third pairing.That's a better 3rd pairing than a lot of other teams have to offer. As for trading Stuart, I'd be marching to the MTS Centre with my pitchfork and torch if they did that. Love Stu... Floyd and FrostyWinnipeg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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