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**** happens... Here's one on a smaller scale in Calgary...

 

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/shaganappi-bridge-delay

The building inspectors in Calgary (and probably Alberta) are spread very thin. Friends of ours bought a brand-new expensive home in the Evergreen area of Calgary. They soon noticed that the dryer wasn"t working properly, so Bob followed the dryer vent duct all the way up to the attic. He was stunned to see that the duct was not connected to any vent, but just dumped onto the insulation, lying there pumping all the dryer moisture into the attic. Bob called the city inspector who told him to call the builder who told him to call the mechanical contractor who told him to call the new home warranty program and no one accepted responsibility or offered to fix it.

The building inspector told Bob that they had 20 minutes to inspect every home, and that included travel time. Bob eventually gave up in disgust and put his own vent cap in. He went up the street and told all his neighbours- every one of the 21 other homes had the same deficiency and none were fixed by the builder.

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**** happens... Here's one on a smaller scale in Calgary...

 

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/shaganappi-bridge-delay

The building inspectors in Calgary (and probably Alberta) are spread very thin. Friends of ours bought a brand-new expensive home in the Evergreen area of Calgary. They soon noticed that the dryer wasn"t working properly, so Bob followed the dryer vent duct all the way up to the attic. He was stunned to see that the duct was not connected to any vent, but just dumped onto the insulation, lying there pumping all the dryer moisture into the attic. Bob called the city inspector who told him to call the builder who told him to call the mechanical contractor who told him to call the new home warranty program and no one accepted responsibility or offered to fix it.

The building inspector told Bob that they had 20 minutes to inspect every home, and that included travel time. Bob eventually gave up in disgust and put his own vent cap in. He went up the street and told all his neighbours- every one of the 21 other homes had the same deficiency and none were fixed by the builder.

 

Just another example of the Alberta DISadvantage & how this province has fallen into a huge hole. Not the first time either. There have been thousands of homes built in the late 70's & early 80's in Calgary that went up so fast they weren't up to code. Builders didn't care. All they cared about was selling these places as quickly as they could for as much profit as they could possibly make & cut all kinds of corners. Built cheap but sold high to unsuspecting suckers. These unscrupulous fly by night builders went out of business in the early 80's when interest rates were at nearly 20% & owners with problems on say a 3 year home had no one to go after when problems arose. Anyone thinking of moving out here to Calgary, Edmonton or elsewhere in Alberta should think twice & stay put. It's only going to get a lot worse. Alberta is going to be a **** place to work & live. 

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

You said it! King James has spoken. 

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

 

All Albertans have to do is ' look in the mirror' and voila..there's the problem according to Jim. Don't mention the fact that the conservative government there has been running the finances forever.  Quite a laugher.

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

 

All Albertans have to do is ' look in the mirror' and voila..there's the problem according to Jim. Don't mention the fact that the conservative government there has been running the finances forever.  Quite a laugher.

 

Maybe not all Albertans - just the ones who kept voting in a Conservative government forever.  ;)

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

 

All Albertans have to do is ' look in the mirror' and voila..there's the problem according to Jim. Don't mention the fact that the conservative government there has been running the finances forever.  Quite a laugher.

 

Maybe not all Albertans - just the ones who kept voting in a Conservative government forever.  ;)

 

AlLL Albertans except the corporations. They're exempt from blame. But myself & the rest of my fellow Albertans, we're to blame. Especially those 2 slackers, Noeller & 17to85. They're sucking this province dry. ;)

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Even the way right-wing Fraser Institute has turned on Prentiss and Co. after 20 years of rubber-stamping everything the PCs in Alberta and Ottawa have done. The Institute said that the Alberta government has left $106 billion on the table by undertaxing oil production revenue.

Further, if Alberta raised their corporate and personal income taxes to match the lowest levels in any other province, they would gather an additional $5-6 billion, but that is not the Alberta way.

Gotta pay for Redford's Retreat somehow. BTW, the former leader of the Wild Rose Party asked for a cabinet seat as her 30 pieces of silver.

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**** happens... Here's one on a smaller scale in Calgary...

 

http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/shaganappi-bridge-delay

The building inspectors in Calgary (and probably Alberta) are spread very thin. Friends of ours bought a brand-new expensive home in the Evergreen area of Calgary. They soon noticed that the dryer wasn"t working properly, so Bob followed the dryer vent duct all the way up to the attic. He was stunned to see that the duct was not connected to any vent, but just dumped onto the insulation, lying there pumping all the dryer moisture into the attic. Bob called the city inspector who told him to call the builder who told him to call the mechanical contractor who told him to call the new home warranty program and no one accepted responsibility or offered to fix it.

The building inspector told Bob that they had 20 minutes to inspect every home, and that included travel time. Bob eventually gave up in disgust and put his own vent cap in. He went up the street and told all his neighbours- every one of the 21 other homes had the same deficiency and none were fixed by the builder.

 

Just another example of the Alberta DISadvantage & how this province has fallen into a huge hole. Not the first time either. There have been thousands of homes built in the late 70's & early 80's in Calgary that went up so fast they weren't up to code. Builders didn't care. All they cared about was selling these places as quickly as they could for as much profit as they could possibly make & cut all kinds of corners. Built cheap but sold high to unsuspecting suckers. These unscrupulous fly by night builders went out of business in the early 80's when interest rates were at nearly 20% & owners with problems on say a 3 year home had no one to go after when problems arose. Anyone thinking of moving out here to Calgary, Edmonton or elsewhere in Alberta should think twice & stay put. It's only going to get a lot worse. Alberta is going to be a **** place to work & live. 

 

It's anyone's guess as to how long oil prices will stay low, but what is your estimate iso?  I'm assuming of course this is the reason you are stating that Alberta is going to be a **** place to work, yes?

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Experts are saying 1-3 years depending on who is talking. Why will it be a **** place to work & live? Cuts to health care, education, post secondary education, seniors, the disabled, people on assisted living. Not enough long term beds for seniors in need so acute care & surgical beds are being used which means access to speedy health care in our hospitals are compromised. Higher taxes on everything as well as increased,user fees. Not enough schools being built, hospital shortage & the list goes on & on. Yeah, the Alberta DISadvantage alright. 

You know the sad part? The sheeple that live in this province will elect King James & his Royal Court of Jesters. He'll make his cuts, do his thing.... maybe even balance the books someday on the backs of every Albertan except corporations. Then the King will leave for Ottawa hoping to become Emperor of This Great Land. In Alberta, the economy will eventually improve as oil prices rise. Everyone will hail King James as the wise, all knowing ruler that he wasn't. Then another unknown King will succeed him. The economy will be good again so the new King will start spending once more to supposedly give back from the loyal suck...errr... subjects to buy their votes. The debt & deficit will rise once more & 20 years from now Alberta will be in the same boat once again. So I don't see why Albertans should give this morally & ethically bankrupt party another chance. King James saw to that by buying off 9 Wild Rose MLA's including their leader Danielle Smith who vows one day she'll be vindicated. And they repealed the law that forbids deficits. And fixed election dates, well hey...

I hate the bloody Progressive Conservatives. Stelmach & Redford squandered & pissed all our money away. And the lemmings here will vote them back in. 

 

RANT OFF!

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Experts are saying 1-3 years depending on who is talking. Why will it be a **** place to work & live? Cuts to health care, education, post secondary education, seniors, the disabled, people on assisted living. Not enough long term beds for seniors in need so acute care & surgical beds are being used which means access to speedy health care in our hospitals are compromised. Higher taxes on everything as well as increased,user fees. Not enough schools being built, hospital shortage & the list goes on & on. Yeah, the Alberta DISadvantage alright. 

You know the sad part? The sheeple that live in this province will elect King James & his Royal Court of Jesters. He'll make his cuts, do his thing.... maybe even balance the books someday on the backs of every Albertan except corporations. Then the King will leave for Ottawa hoping to become Emperor of This Great Land. In Alberta, the economy will eventually improve as oil prices rise. Everyone will hail King James as the wise, all knowing ruler that he wasn't. Then another unknown King will succeed him. The economy will be good again so the new King will start spending once more to supposedly give back from the loyal suck...errr... subjects to buy their votes. The debt & deficit will rise once more & 20 years from now Alberta will be in the same boat once again. So I don't see why Albertans should give this morally & ethically bankrupt party another chance. King James saw to that by buying off 9 Wild Rose MLA's including their leader Danielle Smith who vows one day she'll be vindicated. And they repealed the law that forbids deficits. And fixed election dates, well hey...

I hate the bloody Progressive Conservatives. Stelmach & Redford squandered & pissed all our money away. And the lemmings here will vote them back in. 

 

RANT OFF!

 

 

Poor Alberta. Those Tories really screwed them up. LOL.

 

Consider your audience when you want to go on a rant about poor Alberta. We would give our left nut in Manitoba to have the economy that has been crafted in Alberta under the Tories.

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

 

All Albertans have to do is ' look in the mirror' and voila..there's the problem according to Jim. Don't mention the fact that the conservative government there has been running the finances forever.  Quite a laugher.

 

Maybe not all Albertans - just the ones who kept voting in a Conservative government forever.  ;)

 

AlLL Albertans except the corporations. They're exempt from blame. But myself & the rest of my fellow Albertans, we're to blame. Especially those 2 slackers, Noeller & 17to85. They're sucking this province dry. ;)

 

I'm incorporated so technically I'm a corporation and not to blame at all. 

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

 

All Albertans have to do is ' look in the mirror' and voila..there's the problem according to Jim. Don't mention the fact that the conservative government there has been running the finances forever.  Quite a laugher.

 

Maybe not all Albertans - just the ones who kept voting in a Conservative government forever.  ;)

 

AlLL Albertans except the corporations. They're exempt from blame. But myself & the rest of my fellow Albertans, we're to blame. Especially those 2 slackers, Noeller & 17to85. They're sucking this province dry. ;)

 

I'm incorporated so technically I'm a corporation and not to blame at all. 

 

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But all the financial problems Alberta faces are the fault of the people who live there...according to Mr. Prentiss. It is only coincidence that Alaska has 106 billion dollars in their heritage fund and Norway 450 billion. Not the fault of the party which has been governing Alberta for some 70 years.

 

 

All Albertans have to do is ' look in the mirror' and voila..there's the problem according to Jim. Don't mention the fact that the conservative government there has been running the finances forever.  Quite a laugher.

 

Maybe not all Albertans - just the ones who kept voting in a Conservative government forever.  ;)

 

AlLL Albertans except the corporations. They're exempt from blame. But myself & the rest of my fellow Albertans, we're to blame. Especially those 2 slackers, Noeller & 17to85. They're sucking this province dry. ;)

 

I'm incorporated so technically I'm a corporation and not to blame at all. 

 

They will be at your door with pitchforks and torches soon enough.

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Sooooooo.. How about that stadium? ;). No offence to albertans who operate here but frankly, I could care less about their government plight...

(And yes i realize how their plight will be our plight and blaaaah blaaaaah blah)

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Sooooooo.. How about that stadium? ;). No offence to albertans who operate here but frankly, I could care less about their government plight...

(And yes i realize how their plight will be our plight and blaaaah blaaaaah blah)

"plight" is the wrong word. They play their cards right this could be a real good thing for Alberta in the long run. 

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Sooooooo.. How about that stadium? ;). No offence to albertans who operate here but frankly, I could care less about their government plight...

(And yes i realize how their plight will be our plight and blaaaah blaaaaah blah)

"plight" is the wrong word. They play their cards right this could be a real good thing for Alberta in the long run. 

 

Hasn't worked in the past. Albertans keep re-electing them, and the best way to ensure bad behaviour continues is to reward it.

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Sooooooo.. How about that stadium? ;). No offence to albertans who operate here but frankly, I could care less about their government plight...

(And yes i realize how their plight will be our plight and blaaaah blaaaaah blah)

"plight" is the wrong word. They play their cards right this could be a real good thing for Alberta in the long run. 

 

Hasn't worked in the past. Albertans keep re-electing them, and the best way to ensure bad behaviour continues is to reward it.

 

again you say bad behaviour, but is it really? Us Albertans have a real low tax rate. Why should "good" behaviour from a government include taxing it's population up the ass? I'll say it again, there is a lot of spending required because of the massive population boom, they've been spending that money on the backs of the resource boom rather than taxing the population as heavily. Now that the boom has died down they are looking at increasing the tax load on the population. That seems like a sensible thing. I think too many Manitobans have the Stockholm Syndrome having had so many tax tax tax NDP governments. 

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Sooooooo.. How about that stadium? ;). No offence to albertans who operate here but frankly, I could care less about their government plight...

(And yes i realize how their plight will be our plight and blaaaah blaaaaah blah)

So you COULD care less? ...........

I could.. Technically. I won't nor want to.. But I saw whatcha done there lol

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Sooooooo.. How about that stadium? ;). No offence to albertans who operate here but frankly, I could care less about their government plight...

(And yes i realize how their plight will be our plight and blaaaah blaaaaah blah)

"plight" is the wrong word. They play their cards right this could be a real good thing for Alberta in the long run. 

 

Hasn't worked in the past. Albertans keep re-electing them, and the best way to ensure bad behaviour continues is to reward it.

 

again you say bad behaviour, but is it really? Us Albertans have a real low tax rate. Why should "good" behaviour from a government include taxing it's population up the ass? I'll say it again, there is a lot of spending required because of the massive population boom, they've been spending that money on the backs of the resource boom rather than taxing the population as heavily. Now that the boom has died down they are looking at increasing the tax load on the population. That seems like a sensible thing. I think too many Manitobans have the Stockholm Syndrome having had so many tax tax tax NDP governments. 

 

If you consider how Alberta has undetaxed the oil companies compared to Norway or even Alaska, the differences are staggering. You assume that high taxes are evil and lowest taxes are the most desirable, but I suggest you look at the examples of New Jersey and Kansas compared to the Nordic countries, Germany and France, to name a few. In the European examples, you have social stability,low crime rates, low infant mortality, and longer life spans. In these European countries, you not only have comprehensive health care, but in all but France, they have one-month vacations where the people get an extra month's pay during their vacations.

In Kansas and New Jersey, the gospel has been slash all government spending and the economic climate in these two states has gotten so bleak that even the GOP rank and file has begun calling for restoration of services and raising of taxes. Canadians have consistently said in polls over the years that they would prefer higher taxes as opposed to lack of critical services. Compare that to King Ralph Klein who said his aim was to weaken government so much that he could "drown it in a bathtub" .

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Is it not correct in saying that the country everybody loves to use as an example because of the hundreds of billions they've saved from oil revenues does take care of its citizens from the cradle to the grave but it comes at a huge cost like income tax at 50% or higher? No wonder Norway can provide for their citizens & not touch oil revenues. Norwegians all pay for it. 

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