Mike Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Okay so I dug into it ... I was able to come up with two guesses for players Forde was referring to. OL Josiah St. John from Oklahoma and RB Shaq Murray-Lawrence from UNLV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 This is going to be an important draft for the Bombers and I have FULL confidence in Kyle Walters to make the right decisions. Goossen, Briggs and Jones were all good picks and have played meaningful roles for the Bombers this season. Their future looks bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Depending on where we pick, I think i'd lean towards OLINE and Dline in this years draft. I'd love to get Demski but don't think that's likely with how poorly other teams have been playing, I don't see demski dropping to below 5 and i don't see any eastern teams finishing with a better record than the bombers plus Our National depth at receiver is pretty strong and NO, we are not trading Watson, people should just stop saying that already, it's not going to happen. BEST oline or dline available in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rids Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Okay so I dug into it ... I was able to come up with two guesses for players Forde was referring to. OL Josiah St. John from Oklahoma and RB Shaq Murray-Lawrence from UNLV. Josiah St. John is a 2016 Draft Class but Shaq Murray-Lawrence is part of the 2015 class. Why he wasn't in the Top 20 is up for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Depending on where we pick, I think i'd lean towards OLINE and Dline in this years draft. I'd love to get Demski but don't think that's likely with how poorly other teams have been playing, I don't see demski dropping to below 5 and i don't see any eastern teams finishing with a better record than the bombers plus Our National depth at receiver is pretty strong and NO, we are not trading Watson, people should just stop saying that already, it's not going to happen. BEST oline or dline available in my opinion. I think If we finish 5th in the west, it doesn't matter what our record is, we will be one of two teams not making the playoffs so we will be picking second overall no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and Goldfish Posted September 15, 2014 Report Share Posted September 15, 2014 Three teams don't make the playoffs but ya I assume we would pick third if we don't make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 lol, oops... keep forgetting about that 9th team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 10 minutes until the December rankings are out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 20. Ettore Lattanzio, DL, Ottawa 19. Jake Harty, WR, Calgary 18. Ese Mrabure-Ajufo, DL, Laurier 17. Byron Archambault, LB, Montreal 16. Adam Konar, LB, Calgary 15. Brandon Tennant, DL, Laval 14. Karl Lavoie, OL, Laval 13. Dillon Guy, OL, Buffalo 12. Chris Ackie, DB, Laurier 11. Nic Shortill, LB, McMaster 10. Jacob Ruby, OL, Richmond 9. Addison Richards, WR, Regina 8. Danny Groulx, OL, Laval 7. Sukh Chungh, OL, Calgary 6. Sean McEwen, OL, Calgary 5. Nic Demski, WR, Manitoba 4. Tyler Varga, RB, Yale 3. Daryl Waud, DL, Western 2. Alex Mateas, OL, UConn 1. Brett Boyko, OL, UNLV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Who among those top 20 have a realistic chance to have a NFL tryouts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Not surprised Adam Konar cracked the top 20, he had a pretty strong run in the postseason with Calgary and he was fringe top 20 already. Between him, Archambault and Chris Ackie, there are some pretty intriguing LB prospects out there. I think eventually all 3 of them could leapfrog Shortill on draft boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Who among those top 20 have a realistic chance to have a NFL tryouts ? At this point, probably the top 4. As well as Lemar Durant, who is still (for some reason) absent from these draft rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. The thing to keep in mind is that the rankings mean very little going forward until the draft. People will use them as law in discussions on forums, but the reality of the situation is this list is formed by the rankings submitted by the nine front offices in the CFL and teams are going to be deceptive with a purpose as we get closer to draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. The thing to keep in mind is that the rankings mean very little going forward until the draft. People will use them as law in discussions on forums, but the reality of the situation is this list is formed by the rankings submitted by the nine front offices in the CFL and teams are going to be deceptive with a purpose as we get closer to draft day. Yep. But if the Bombers are hoping to have an OL that is comparable to the Als, the Stamps and the Riders, I think this pool is the best chance to expedite that process. A couple of top picks OL combined with a stud OL picked up in the free agency, I think it's not impossible for the team to field 5 national OL next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. The thing to keep in mind is that the rankings mean very little going forward until the draft. People will use them as law in discussions on forums, but the reality of the situation is this list is formed by the rankings submitted by the nine front offices in the CFL and teams are going to be deceptive with a purpose as we get closer to draft day. Yep. But if the Bombers are hoping to have an OL that is comparable to the Als, the Stamps and the Riders, I think this pool is the best chance to expedite that process. A couple of top picks OL combined with a stud OL picked up in the free agency, I think it's not impossible for the team to field 5 national OL next year. There really would be no sense in using 5 Canadian offensive linemen next year. Especially considering none of these top tier prospects are strong options at tackle. Alex Mateas has played center and only center for UConn ... last time he played tackle was in the CJFL. Chungh and McEwen in Calgary are guards. Danny Groulx ... maybe but I'm not banking on him (or Dillon Guy or Jacob Ruby) being contributors at tackle in year one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 The biggest rise in the rankings came from Calgary Dino offensive lineman Sean McEwen. The native of Calgary was ranked No. 14 in the September rankings and jumped eight spots to No. 6 in the latest rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. The thing to keep in mind is that the rankings mean very little going forward until the draft. People will use them as law in discussions on forums, but the reality of the situation is this list is formed by the rankings submitted by the nine front offices in the CFL and teams are going to be deceptive with a purpose as we get closer to draft day. Yep. But if the Bombers are hoping to have an OL that is comparable to the Als, the Stamps and the Riders, I think this pool is the best chance to expedite that process. A couple of top picks OL combined with a stud OL picked up in the free agency, I think it's not impossible for the team to field 5 national OL next year. There really would be no sense in using 5 Canadian offensive linemen next year. Especially considering none of these top tier prospects are strong options at tackle. Alex Mateas has played center and only center for UConn ... last time he played tackle was in the CJFL. Chungh and McEwen in Calgary are guards. Danny Groulx ... maybe but I'm not banking on him (or Dillon Guy or Jacob Ruby) being contributors at tackle in year one. Yup. To expect us to run with 5 national o-lineman barring massive injuries to our tackles is a pipe dream.. We would manage to either regress development, kill Willy or Marve or whomever is left back there and probably have a comparible or worse line to this last season.. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. The thing to keep in mind is that the rankings mean very little going forward until the draft. People will use them as law in discussions on forums, but the reality of the situation is this list is formed by the rankings submitted by the nine front offices in the CFL and teams are going to be deceptive with a purpose as we get closer to draft day. Yep. But if the Bombers are hoping to have an OL that is comparable to the Als, the Stamps and the Riders, I think this pool is the best chance to expedite that process. A couple of top picks OL combined with a stud OL picked up in the free agency, I think it's not impossible for the team to field 5 national OL next year. There really would be no sense in using 5 Canadian offensive linemen next year. Especially considering none of these top tier prospects are strong options at tackle. Alex Mateas has played center and only center for UConn ... last time he played tackle was in the CJFL. Chungh and McEwen in Calgary are guards. Danny Groulx ... maybe but I'm not banking on him (or Dillon Guy or Jacob Ruby) being contributors at tackle in year one. Yup. To expect us to run with 5 national o-lineman barring massive injuries to our tackles is a pipe dream.. We would manage to either regress development, kill Willy or Marve or whomever is left back there and probably have a comparible or worse line to this last season.. Not sure it even makes sense. It's just an old-school mentality. Canadians aren't as good, put them somewhere where their screw-ups do the least amount of damage. Yeah, Oline, all they have to do is stand there and block. Until your starting QB is on the shelf for the rest of the season. The days of the Oline as non-skill players is long in the past. What they do matters. And from a dollars and cents perspective, a top quality starting NI tackle has become the second most expensive player in today's market, only behind a starting QB (and Heenan is setting himself up come February for a salary higher than Crompton's I'm guessing). Get all the best NI's we can on this roster and let the rest sort itself out. If that happens to be 5 on the line someday, so be it, but that is not necessarily the "best" option. It's just an option. voodoochylde and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I think, I'm starting to fade away from Demski as my #2 overall choice. The thing to keep in mind is that the rankings mean very little going forward until the draft. People will use them as law in discussions on forums, but the reality of the situation is this list is formed by the rankings submitted by the nine front offices in the CFL and teams are going to be deceptive with a purpose as we get closer to draft day. Yep. But if the Bombers are hoping to have an OL that is comparable to the Als, the Stamps and the Riders, I think this pool is the best chance to expedite that process. A couple of top picks OL combined with a stud OL picked up in the free agency, I think it's not impossible for the team to field 5 national OL next year. There really would be no sense in using 5 Canadian offensive linemen next year. Especially considering none of these top tier prospects are strong options at tackle. Alex Mateas has played center and only center for UConn ... last time he played tackle was in the CJFL. Chungh and McEwen in Calgary are guards. Danny Groulx ... maybe but I'm not banking on him (or Dillon Guy or Jacob Ruby) being contributors at tackle in year one. Yup. To expect us to run with 5 national o-lineman barring massive injuries to our tackles is a pipe dream.. We would manage to either regress development, kill Willy or Marve or whomever is left back there and probably have a comparible or worse line to this last season.. Not sure it even makes sense. It's just an old-school mentality. Canadians aren't as good, put them somewhere where their screw-ups do the least amount of damage. Yeah, Oline, all they have to do is stand there and block. Until your starting QB is on the shelf for the rest of the season. The days of the Oline as non-skill players is long in the past. What they do matters. And from a dollars and cents perspective, a top quality starting NI tackle has become the second most expensive player in today's market, only behind a starting QB (and Heenan is setting himself up come February for a salary higher than Crompton's I'm guessing). Get all the best NI's we can on this roster and let the rest sort itself out. If that happens to be 5 on the line someday, so be it, but that is not necessarily the "best" option. It's just an option. I agree.. One day, IF the talent allows for it, and IF it's in our best interests then give'er but don't kill ourselves or other positions to try and get there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rids Posted December 12, 2014 Report Share Posted December 12, 2014 Some thoughts on the Scouting Bureau's list - http://blog.ridleyscouting.com/Kent_Ridley_Thoughts/My_Thoughts/Entries/2014/12/12_Scouting_Bureau_December.html Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 http://www.tsn.ca/standout-sfu-wr-durant-declares-for-cfl-nfl-draft-1.160447 Old, but slightly more official now. Durant to Ottawa anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hey Mike, I know it's still a long but who do you think the Bombers is picking #2 overall ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Hey Mike, I know it's still a long but who do you think the Bombers is picking #2 overall ? Impossible to say as of right now. I think anything, including moving down in the draft, is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 1, 2015 Report Share Posted January 1, 2015 Christian Covington declared for the NFL Draft SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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