Jesse Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, 17to85 said: Is that because of the sheer quality of the Bombers receiving corps though? Cause that's a pretty hard group to crack. This year, sure. Hasn't always been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Catan's Ghost Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 I want to meet the official who is tasked to maintain the: “Two additional Nationalized Americans can substitute for a National starter for up to 49 percent of snaps in a game” rule. wbbfan, JCon, Mark F and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jesse said: This year, sure. Hasn't always been the case. Brock Ralph begs to differ. Blue-urns, Jesse, Fred C Dobbs and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike said: Am I the only one who has no idea what to expect regarding our roster this year because of all the new rules regarding Canadian eligibility? Lol You are not alone in the confusion but realistically we don't have any scrub NAT starters. I mean we could potentially see Woli and Fatboi losing some reps but really who else? I don't think this changes much for us in roster construction other than a little more freedom in replacing injured NAT starters and a little more pressure on the rookies as vet status is a lot more valuable now. In a saw off of talent the vet now has the upper hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mike said: Ok can you explain it to me and only me then please I was being hilarious. blue_gold_84, JCon, Tracker and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted May 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Osh being who Osh is...... I can't imagine he's gonna want to pull reps away from actual Canadians anytime soon. Bigblue204 and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 In the end it will be bad for the league because it will encourage teams to keep worse players in DI slots simply because they have status to replace Canadians and discourage developing American players when it comes to shorter term decision-making (ie who do we keep around when we cut the roster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Jesse, Bigblue204 and Geebrr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Noeller said: Osh being who Osh is...... I can't imagine he's gonna want to pull reps away from actual Canadians anytime soon. Woli might have to check if he still qualifies as an "actual Canadian".... Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Bigblue204, blue_gold_84, wbbfan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted May 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 the great ones never get complacent.... wbbfan, Bigblue204, kelownabomberfan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Tracker, Noeller, Mark F and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Mike said: Am I the only one who has no idea what to expect regarding our roster this year because of all the new rules regarding Canadian eligibility? Lol Hopefully, there's an app for that. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, BomberBall said: Yeah…. Quirky sounds better than stupid. Hmmmm....this explains some of my wife's descriptions of me. BomberBall, Wilbur and Mark F 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 So I thought I remember reading that the cfl was going to evaluate these things based on film and fine accordingly (or I might be crazy) which tells me it's going to be abused to no end. wbbfan and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Always the best time of the season this! Well and the first game week lol. Think we have some good rookies here and eager to see what they can all do moving forward. Been off the forum for a bit due to some pretty bad things that went on in my life: Bad wreck, loss of employment, etc but am in a better place now and looking forward to a new season of Bomber football. Hope everyone here has been doing alright.👍 Geebrr, Blue-urns, kelownabomberfan and 7 others 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, BomberBall said: Yeah…. Quirky sounds better than stupid. Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted May 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 details on Bighill and Grant not practicing yet........ wbbfan, blue_gold_84 and Geebrr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Noeller said: details on Bighill and Grant not practicing yet........ The O'Shea version of details, I guess... blue_gold_84 and wbbfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted May 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 I mean, it's all you're going to get, so whatever...it's something. There will ALWAYS be a shroud of secrecy with an Osh team. He wants as much stuff as possible kept in house and protect the players privacy. It is what it is. Geebrr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Sounds like he's juat pacing his older veterans. Why burn them out at TC when there is 18 regular season games they have to play? I think that's O'Shea's thought process here. Wanna-B-Fanboy and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 The number of national starters has increased to eight but one of them can be a nationalized American, who has played five years in the CFL or three years with the same team. One Canadian starter on each side of the ball can be replaced for up to 49 percent of snaps. The twist is that the two teams who play "true nationals" on the most snaps this season get an extra second round pick in the 2024 draft. Which spots do we have a nationalized American available? Most of the players we have that qualify as nationalized Americans are already starters. These spots might end up being used for American veterans who are nearing the end of their career. For example, starting Shayne Gauthier and Adam Bighill in a platoon. It could also be used for a guy like Janarion Grant, as already mentioned... Rotating in the receiving corps. Could we see a young American receiver win a starting job over Rasheed Bailey for example? This would let Bailey rotate in as a nationalized American. We might even see some teams carry a veteran American OL that rotates in at Guard for example, improving the line for half the snaps. Not that an American is necessarily better than a Canadian but some teams may have that situation available. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, Atomic said: The number of national starters has increased to eight but one of them can be a nationalized American, who has played five years in the CFL or three years with the same team. One Canadian starter on each side of the ball can be replaced for up to 49 percent of snaps. The twist is that the two teams who play "true nationals" on the most snaps this season get an extra second round pick in the 2024 draft. Which spots do we have a nationalized American available? Most of the players we have that qualify as nationalized Americans are already starters. These spots might end up being used for American veterans who are nearing the end of their career. For example, starting Shayne Gauthier and Adam Bighill in a platoon. It could also be used for a guy like Janarion Grant, as already mentioned... Rotating in the receiving corps. Could we see a young American receiver win a starting job over Rasheed Bailey for example? This would let Bailey rotate in as a nationalized American. We might even see some teams carry a veteran American OL that rotates in at Guard for example, improving the line for half the snaps. Not that an American is necessarily better than a Canadian but some teams may have that situation available. idk how many imp ol aren’t starters but have that much service. But they would certainly be very valuable. Would it extend to globals? I think rotational de / pass rushers will be really big. Lots of those guys with enough years of service and lots of ni dl kicking around to create depth instantly. might be some rbs who can rotate with ni fbs who block on passing downs. could see lots of older dbs platoon with nis or function as a dime. Would Sergio Castillo count as a nationalized imp? How would that work with a kicker? Would he count as just a ni counter same with grant. If that saves us one or two di spots that would be pretty huge. Neither would play 49% of snaps in any case. Teams are gonna exploit the crap outta this one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 This is the full list of Bombers who qualify as Nationalized Americans: Brandon Alexander Alden Darby Jr Winston Rose Jackson Jeffcoat Willie Jefferson Adam Bighill Stanley Bryant Jermarcus Hardrick Rasheed Bailey Janarion Grant Sergio Castillo (not sure how the rules work for kickers) Tracker, bustamente, Wideleft and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 I don't think it will matter for a kicker. The only time the starters are counted are O and D. A kicker will still need a DI spot just to get onto the roster as an American. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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