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3 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Hello, Charles Roberts....

Yeah, teams of the past definitely weren't FIFO.

O'Shea talks about how injured players help to coach up their replacements as everyone wants to ensure they are ready and hopefully win the game.

Whereas you used to have guys like Westwood that would rather sulk than help his replacement.

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Charles roberts hi-res stock photography and images - Page 19 - Alamy

At one point i had watched probably 15 straight years of training camp, and this pic is pretty much the extent of Roberts' stretching and warmup regime during camp. Ill never forget all the times i saw him chatting with Milt and the other vets sitting just like this while they all did their stretching and warmups.

4 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Only exciting part about every team he played on.

Imagine if he gave a damn.....

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51 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Charles roberts hi-res stock photography and images - Page 19 - Alamy

At one point i had watched probably 15 straight years of training camp, and this pic is pretty much the extent of Roberts' stretching and warmup regime during camp. Ill never forget all the times i saw him chatting with Milt and the other vets sitting just like this while they all did their stretching and warmups.

Imagine if he gave a damn.....

He was 5'-6" 170 lbs, returned punts and kickoffs, took a beating every game and never missed a game in 7 seasons with the Bombers.....and this is what you remember???

How about this stuff.

Year Team GP TC Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 17 107 820 5.8 1 22
2002 WPG 17 216 1162 5.4 5 70
2003 WPG 18 264 1554 5.9 8 51
2004 WPG 18 300 1522 6.1 8 49
2005 WPG 18 290 1624 5.8 12 69
2006 WPG 18 303 1609 5.3 10 33
2007 WPG 16 262 1379 5.3 16 56
Receiving
Year Team Rec Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 27 288 10.7 0 43
2002 WPG 55 613 11.1 6 59
2003 WPG 51 548 10.7 2 47
2004 WPG 53 398 7.5 5 26
2005 WPG 49 474 9.7 0 64
2006 WPG 42 411 9.8 0 32
2007 WPG 47 358 7.6 0 35
Kickoff Returns
Year Team KOR Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 45 981 21.8 0 50
2002 WPG 27 539 20 0 42
2003 WPG 26 528 20.3 0 36
2004 WPG 4 84 21 0 41
2005 WPG 1 19 19 0 19
2006 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
2007 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
Punt Returns
Year Team PR Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 82 782 9.5 2 58
2002 WPG 44 476 10.8 0 75
2003 WPG 45 362 8 0 35
2004 WPG 3 28 9.3 0 26
2005 WPG 1 17 17 0 17
2006 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
2007 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
Missed Fieldgoal Returns
Year Team MFGRet Yds TD Long
2001 WPG 1 35 0 35
2002 WPG 5 124 0 48
2003 WPG 4 155 0 72
2004 WPG 0 0 0 0
2005 WPG 0 0 0 0
2006 WPG 0 0 0 0
2007 WPG 0 0 0 0
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7 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

He was 5'-6" 170 lbs, returned punts and kickoffs, took a beating every game and never missed a game in 7 seasons with the Bombers.....and this is what you remember???

How about this stuff.

Year Team GP TC Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 17 107 820 5.8 1 22
2002 WPG 17 216 1162 5.4 5 70
2003 WPG 18 264 1554 5.9 8 51
2004 WPG 18 300 1522 6.1 8 49
2005 WPG 18 290 1624 5.8 12 69
2006 WPG 18 303 1609 5.3 10 33
2007 WPG 16 262 1379 5.3 16 56
Receiving
Year Team Rec Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 27 288 10.7 0 43
2002 WPG 55 613 11.1 6 59
2003 WPG 51 548 10.7 2 47
2004 WPG 53 398 7.5 5 26
2005 WPG 49 474 9.7 0 64
2006 WPG 42 411 9.8 0 32
2007 WPG 47 358 7.6 0 35
Kickoff Returns
Year Team KOR Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 45 981 21.8 0 50
2002 WPG 27 539 20 0 42
2003 WPG 26 528 20.3 0 36
2004 WPG 4 84 21 0 41
2005 WPG 1 19 19 0 19
2006 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
2007 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
Punt Returns
Year Team PR Yds Avg TD Long
2001 WPG 82 782 9.5 2 58
2002 WPG 44 476 10.8 0 75
2003 WPG 45 362 8 0 35
2004 WPG 3 28 9.3 0 26
2005 WPG 1 17 17 0 17
2006 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
2007 WPG 0 0 0 0 0
Missed Fieldgoal Returns
Year Team MFGRet Yds TD Long
2001 WPG 1 35 0 35
2002 WPG 5 124 0 48
2003 WPG 4 155 0 72
2004 WPG 0 0 0 0
2005 WPG 0 0 0 0
2006 WPG 0 0 0 0
2007 WPG 0 0 0 0

I remember a no show in the Grey Cup too......

My point is yes he was amazing but he could have been the best ever if he had given a s**t.

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2 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

I remember a no show in the Grey Cup too......

My point is yes he was amazing but he could have been the best ever if he had given a s**t.

yup....too bad he didnt really....he did on the field....but not so much to prepare for it

as for the no show....he wasnt alone....but for some reason he gets the brunt of that anger...there were quite a few who let the team down...some whom would surprise you but is never mentioned...and not a lot know

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1 hour ago, Booch said:

yup....too bad he didnt really....he did on the field....but not so much to prepare for it

as for the no show....he wasnt alone....but for some reason he gets the brunt of that anger...there were quite a few who let the team down...some whom would surprise you but is never mentioned...and not a lot know

Unless you say the name “Stegall” and perhaps “Cameron” I would likely not be surprised. 

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Roberts was a special guy....never took work outs or healthy regime seriously AND YET he deliverd on the field time and time again...I often wondered how good Charlie could've/would've been had he listened to Milt about working out ... A true anomley was Blink and he still remains one of my all time favourite players of all time....Say what you will about the guy....his record speaks for itself...I only wished his last games were with us and not out on the coast...we could have done something better when he departed

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Calgary had a few nice seasons but only got one championship out of it in 2018 on their dominant run. 
 

They lost to the lowly Redblacks in 2016, and then Toronto in 2017.

Winnipeg is likely going to three-peat. Bo Levi seemed to struggle in the big games, along with coaching errors. The Stamps got rattled.

These Bombers don’t get rattled. They could be down 21 points in the 4th Q and I’d still bet on them to pull it out.

I may be a Rider fan, but I appreciate greatness. 

My dream matchup would be the 2021 Bombers vs the 2009 Alouettes. 

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Roberts ran hard. I really don’t care that he didn’t stretch or smoked. He was completely durable during his time in Winnipeg, looked at 05 for example on one or the worst o lines or all time; and a stagnant offense he has nearly 350 total touches. He ran hard, gave it all he got on the field and never got hurt. The dude gets way too much slander on here. He was our work horse at 5 foot nothing, a hundred and nothing pounds. 

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5 hours ago, 17to85 said:

you don't think you could drop 2001 era Doug Brown into todays game and have him still be a top player?

 

The biggest difference on the defensive lines right now IMO is that everyone uses heavy rotations to keep players fresh moreso than a dramatic change.

Db yeah but I think he was an extreme outlier in that era. He was the first interior linemen I can recall in the cfl who was a top level athlete (national rugby team iirc) 

 if stove played the length of dbs career in the cfl he’d be at worst the second best dt in league history. 
 

most every position out side of ol is like that in football now.  The big difference is that most dts in the cfl can run like des used to and des are better run jump athletes than half the wrs in the league 20 years ago. 

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26 minutes ago, Rich said:

Can’t think of many players who could electrify the crowd with their play the way Roberts did.  
 

The holes he was able to squeeze through at the line, the ankle breaking moves he would pull off to juke people out.  
 

I’m happy I was able to watch him live in stadium all those years. 

The quickest shiftiest player I’ve ever seen in any league at any level. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Jpan85 said:

I always felt that if Roberts trained as hard as Milt he would of gotten hurt way more. 

I don’t think he needed the same work out regiment. But I think being leaner, and stronger would’ve made him into an nfl player. 
 

Nothing was going to give him a top speed gear. And with the nature of his bursty change of direction running any thing that put more wear on his hips knees and plantar facia to high ankle area would’ve shortened his career. 
 

 

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thing with Roberts...for a little dude who didnt train,,,,he carried the load injury free basically...and how many games did we watch him in the fourth quarter when everyone knew he was getting the ball just grind out first down after first down to kill out the clock...phenomenal what he did, in the tiny lil cheeseburger lovin smoking body...interesting fact tho...strength wise and if he did enter the weight room he was phenomenally strong...like almost in an unbelievable way...lil fella just was gifted...too bad he didnt stay on track here and get in 3 or more good years

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47 minutes ago, Tracker said:

I saw Mack Herron at his prime and think he was as good as Roberts with a few extra kilos of muscle that allowed him to break tackles. His career was also cut short for entirely different reasons. A helluva athlete but a shabby example of a human being.

Don’t mention MH and kilos in the same sentence 

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