Nolby Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 I don't disagree that removing Suitor from Rider games takes away the conflict of interest but let's be realistic,tsn doesn't have decent play by play callers lined up right behind him currently. Try and fix the issue instead of getting rid of him and then having to bring in someone brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: Glad we are all on the same page here. National broadcaster shouldn't be a fan and should st least pretend at being impartial. Are you professional in your job? That's what this is about. Asking suitor to be professional in his job. Like Milt Stegall when he is asked for his game prediction and says he “has to pick my team?” Like Troy Aikman yesterday complaint that he should have gotten the Cowboy-Niners broadcast instead of Romo? Like Bob Cole and Harry Neale on every HNIC game that the Maple Leafs were a part of? Like every TSN broadcast now that covers Maple Leaf practices during the national Sportcentre updates? Suitor hardly invented homerism, and is arguably not the worst offender, especially if you consider the context of his remarks being made on a Saskatchewan podcast answering specifically if the Riders should be concerned about the salary signings. The bad look comes from the fact that it again exposes how useless the salary cap violation penalties are. That is what should be the focus here. Edited January 18, 2022 by TrueBlue4ever Bigblue204, Stickem, Piggy 1 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nolby said: I don't disagree that removing Suitor from Rider games takes away the conflict of interest but let's be realistic,tsn doesn't have decent play by play callers lined up right behind him currently. Try and fix the issue instead of getting rid of him and then having to bring in someone brand new. Disagree. You try to find some young talent similar to what they did for play by play with Dustin Nielson. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Nolby said: I don't disagree that removing Suitor from Rider games takes away the conflict of interest but let's be realistic,tsn doesn't have decent play by play callers lined up right behind him currently. Try and fix the issue instead of getting rid of him and then having to bring in someone brand new. He's not a play by play caller.... 1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Like Milt Stegall when he is asked for his game prediction and says he “has to pick my team?” Like Troy Aikman yesterday complaint that he should have gotten the Cowboy-Niners broadcast instead of Romo? Like Bob Cole and Harry Neale on every HNIC game that the Maple Leafs were a part of? Like every TSN broadcast now that covers Maple Leaf practices during the national Sportcentre updates? Suitor hardly invented homerism, and is arguably not the worst offender, especially if you consider the context of his remarks being made on a Saskatchewan podcast answering specifically if the Riders should be concerned about the salary signings. The bad look comes from the fact that it again exposes how useless the salary cap violation penalties are. That is what should be the focus here. The difference is Stegall is a panel voice and Suitor is an in game analyst. I really believe there's more leeway for Milt in that instance. SpeedFlex27, TBURGESS and JCon 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Noeller said: He's not a play by play caller.... The difference is Stegall is a panel voice and Suitor is an in game analyst. I really believe there's more leeway for Milt in that instance. I would disagree that there is a difference in leeway, especially given that this was not a national broadcast but a local podcast and he is there to offer opinions just like a panelist, but I accept that this is your point of view. I know Suitor saying it and it being the Riders will trigger people more than if someone else said it, and I still contend the bigger problem is that the weak league rules make this kind of violation a viable option open for discussion, more than who in the media suggests it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 3 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: I would disagree that there is a difference in leeway, especially given that this was not a national broadcast but a local podcast and he is there to offer opinions just like a panelist, but I accept that this is your point of view. I know Suitor saying it and it being the Riders will trigger people more than if someone else said it, and I still contend the bigger problem is that the weak league rules make this kind of violation a viable option open for discussion, more than who in the media suggests it. Did anyone in the media say or accuse the Bombers of being over the cap when we won B2B Grey Cups? Is anyone in the media saying we should cheat the cap to re-sign our veterans? No one. We won & stayed within the rules. You never heard Bob Irving say that & he never would have because he was a true professional when it came to covering the team. He covered the Bombers for 45 seasons & I'd say he's more of a Bomber homer than some of the players who played here. Yet, it would never occur for him to do that. Yet, Suitor does because he played for the Riders & that makes it okay? Winning two championships & knowing we didn't cheat just makes it even better. rebusrankin, Bigblue204 and Noeller 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 10 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Like Milt Stegall when he is asked for his game prediction and says he “has to pick my team?” Like Troy Aikman yesterday complaint that he should have gotten the Cowboy-Niners broadcast instead of Romo? Like Bob Cole and Harry Neale on every HNIC game that the Maple Leafs were a part of? Like every TSN broadcast now that covers Maple Leaf practices during the national Sportcentre updates? Suitor hardly invented homerism, and is arguably not the worst offender, especially if you consider the context of his remarks being made on a Saskatchewan podcast answering specifically if the Riders should be concerned about the salary signings. The bad look comes from the fact that it again exposes how useless the salary cap violation penalties are. That is what should be the focus here. Have any of the other examples you cited encouraged their favourite teams to cheat? I think that's the point here. blue_gold_84, Bigblue204, Noeller and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Personally, I love it when Suitor pumps their tires in a win and makes excuses for them in a loss. It helps keep the delusions alive in Riderville and it makes it hurt more when we beat them for the umpteenth time in a row in the playoffs. That's when the reality sets in, and I like reality to set in at the same time as the pain for them. Bigblue204, Fred C Dobbs and TBURGESS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark H. said: Have any of the other examples you cited encouraged their favourite teams to cheat? I think that's the point here. We also don't have to listen to pre/half/post stuff. I usually don't. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 18, 2022 Report Share Posted January 18, 2022 Yeah, TSN pre-half-post stuff is atrocious....thank Christ for 'OB. Tracker, Geebrr and Fred C Dobbs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Zaius Posted January 19, 2022 Report Share Posted January 19, 2022 (edited) one thing about Suitor is he always agrees with the call when it's against the Riders and always defaults to justification mode when the Riders take a penalty it's subtle, but like clockwork Edited January 19, 2022 by Dr Zaius Bubba Zanetti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 On 2021-12-15 at 10:06 AM, bearpants said: It took about 2.5 years to fix the Bombers O-line... it can be a long process. Do you guys remember people shitting on Stanley Bryant in his first season here because our OL still sucked? It took a while for things to gel. And such a combination of things - getting a minimum level of talent along the entire OL (Bond being inserted was a big deal at the time) - A QB who could get the ball away in a decent amount of time - Harris coming in who could actually take advantage of holes presented and get every yard out of every play. Bigblue204, camper_2 and rebusrankin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 I remember the year after they gave up 72 sacks and they interviewed Bob Wylie in training camp and he said that the all those sacks were not the olines fault and that they were going to be much better. rebusrankin, Bigblue204, Noeller and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Bob Wylie was let go by the RedBlacks because they want their coaching staff to get younger. Another word for cheaper. So, thery brought in a different coach who is younger & won't make as much $$$. Did the same thing to Steve Walsh their qb coach. Ageism at it's finest. It's not about who is best but who is cheaper. Which is why LaPo won't last the season there. Wylie & Walsh had literally nothing to work with. coach17 and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 31 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Bob Wylie was let go by the RedBlacks because they want their coaching staff to get younger. Another word for cheaper. So, thery brought in a different coach who is younger & won't make as much $$$. Did the same thing to Steve Walsh their qb coach. Ageism at it's finest. It's not about who is best but who is cheaper. Which is why LaPo won't last the season there. Wylie & Walsh had literally nothing to work with. I will never disparage Bob Wylie - who has been a fine OL coach for a long time - but sometimes it is time to go younger. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jesse said: I will never disparage Bob Wylie - who has been a fine OL coach for a long time - but sometimes it is time to go younger. With the lack of talent & & ability on that OL I doubt if anyone could have made them better. If Wylie with all his experience can't do it then how a less experienced coach do it? Usually coaches IQ's rise with good players. Strictly a money cutting move which is why that coaches & admin cap has to go. But nothing from the CFL. They were going to delve into ways to make the game better. Crickets. Not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: With the lack of talent & & ability on that OL I doubt if anyone could have made them better. If Wylie with all his experience can't do it then how a less experienced coach do it? Usually coaches IQ's rise with good players. Strictly a money cutting move which is why that coaches & admin cap has to go. But nothing from the CFL. They were going to delve into ways to make the game better. Crickets. Not surprised. Blame the owners. They run the league. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Blame the owners. They run the league. Gosh, ya think?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) Riderfans really crowing up a storm about Sankey and Moncrief, some proclaiming that their defence will be better than the Bombers last year. Here are the facts as I see them... Gainey, Purifoy, Micah, Woodard, Lacey, Henry > Sankey, Moncrief Edited February 8, 2022 by GCn20 blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Riderfans really crowing up a storm about Sankey and Moncrief, some proclaiming that their defence will be better than the Bombers last year. Here are the facts as I see them... Gainey, Purifoy, Micah, Woodard, Lacey > Sankey, Moncrief hahaha......with no dline...and questionable DB's???...yeah ok I'd take Biggie/Wilson and Maston over Teitz/Sankey and Moncreif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Booch said: hahaha......with no dline...and questionable DB's???...yeah ok I'd take Biggie/Wilson and Maston over Teitz/Sankey and Moncreif Yea they just lost another cog in their DL as well in Makana Henry. They might be going with the CFL's first 2-5 defence at this rate. They might not have enough DL under contract to field anything more...lol. But LBers....hey they got Lbers. Edited February 8, 2022 by GCn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 another big fail on Oday...he has to be on hot seat there.... Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Booch said: another big fail on Oday...he has to be on hot seat there.... Robertson Leonard Moreno....not exactly a trio I would consider championship calibre that's for sure....but hey...they signed St. John...lmao blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: Robertson Leonard Moreno....not exactly a trio I would consider championship calibre that's for sure....but hey...they signed St. John...lmao Marino is awesome tho...better than Stove...they said so blue_gold_84 and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 8, 2022 Report Share Posted February 8, 2022 Just now, Booch said: Marino is awesome tho...better than Stove...they said so Moreno could be a good one....if he wasn't so undisciplined and stupid.....but he is. There is a reason they sat him out in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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