TrueBlue4ever Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, BomberBall said: I have no idea why your mind works the way it does. Maybe he’ll miss coaching and be ready to get back into it midseason and an opportunity will present itself…. Maybe he’ll take a year or two off…. Maybe he’ll retire. Who knows? All we know is what is reported by Dregs… He’s not ready to jump back into coaching right now and how difficult it was to not take the Winnipeg job. I’m taking it at face value. How my mind is working: If we take his statement at full face value, then logically he would have had these thoughts when the Jets (and every other team) first interviewed him. If the first thing he says is “you know, I’m not really interested in coaching at all” why take all the interviews, why come back for a second one in Winnipeg, and why drag it out for 2 months? Hard to imagine that he was excited to explore all of these options and then decide at the end of it “no I don’t want any of them but it just came to me”. And if he did disclose form the start, then a major screw-up on the Jets part to hold out and lose out on the other coaches who got snapped up in the interim waiting on a lost cause. If he is holding out for a better offer, then of course he’ll say the right things and how tough it is to turn down Winnipeg, but this team sure has had trouble holding on to players (and a coach) in the last 5 years, and it’s precisely this competitive disadvantage that helped make us also-fans in our first incarnation which led to dwindling fan interest and ultimately relocation. So if he pops up in another market 3 months into next season then I think the hard question of “what makes Winnipeg so unattractive to any real quality hockey people” has to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 18 hours ago, Stickem said: Yeah... Maurice seems quite into coaching now.....just not here.... I mean, can you blame him? He was basically the scapegoat for three seasons until he resigned back in December. Turns out what's wrong with this team (and organization) seems to go well beyond who the HC is. Shitty news regarding Trotz. I wonder who's second on the Jets' candidate list... They need to get this figured out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) The former head coach played a big role in what went wrong tho. You can't deny that. The lack of accountability seemingly was a huge problem. With Wheeler number 3 on Seravellis trade board, it makes you see that leadership was a problem and they recognize that. The other stuff perhaps blown out of proportion a bit based on Twitter rumors which you can't really say is true or not. The problem is we as fans will never ever know what exactly went on. Our media refuses to ask the hard questions As for trotz, family comes first every time so if his heart isn't in to coaching then so be it. Edited June 25, 2022 by Goalie ddanger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 We got Trotzed. HardCoreBlue and FrostyWinnipeg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 bb1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Our parent club - the Rangers - are apparently in on Dubois maintenent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Our parent club - the Rangers - are apparently in on Dubois maintenent. We should tell them about our other sales. Perhaps a volume discount. Noeller, FrostyWinnipeg and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 20% chance our next coach will have hair 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 I don't know why specifically but Rick Tocchet seems intriguing. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) Whoever the next coach is it's going to look like we picked up the 'booby prize' after Trotz...trotted off...Tocchet is an interesting candidate......but will interesting cut it.....Rangers interested in Pierre Luc according to sources????hmmmm if we end with a bag of peanuts for him, then it will have come full circle, and the Laine acquisition will have gone 'poof' and may as well have never happened...I don't trust the management of this club anymore Edited June 30, 2022 by Stickem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Dubois is a diva tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 I've got a buddy that's a die-hard Flyers fan, and he's pissed that they went with Torts over Tocchet. Truly believes Tocchet is going to be a great NHL coach... I don't know enough to know enough, but agree with "seems like an intriguing option..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 42 minutes ago, Goalie said: Dubois is a diva tho. And yet some still want him to wear the “C”. Not sure what has happened to this club, but there sure seems to be something rotten with all the backsliding since 2018 and player defections/feuds/ trouble retaining or bringing in people who aren’t re-treads. Or do I over-exaggerate? Maybe just my mood today. captaincanuck12 and Mark F 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincanuck12 Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 minute ago, TrueBlue4ever said: And yet some still want him to wear the “C”. Not sure what has happened to this club, but there sure seems to be something rotten with all the backsliding since 2018 and player defections/feuds/ trouble retaining or bringing in people who aren’t re-treads. Or do I over-exaggerate? Maybe just my mood today. No you aren't exaggerating. There is clearly a poisonous culture and it's on the coach and leadership. Let's not forget that Kevin Hayes said the Jets locker was one of the worst locker rooms he's been in. The new coach that gets hired is tasked with trying to fix that, as well as the underperforming team. It's an uphill battle. TrueBlue4ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Just now, captaincanuck12 said: No you aren't exaggerating. There is clearly a poisonous culture and it's on the coach and leadership. Let's not forget that Kevin Hayes said the Jets locker was one of the worst locker rooms he's been in. The new coach that gets hired is tasked with trying to fix that, as well as the underperforming team. It's an uphill battle. Coach can't fix management. That's a common theme here. Trotz knew it. TrueBlue4ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Noeller said: I've got a buddy that's a die-hard Flyers fan, and he's pissed that they went with Torts over Tocchet. Truly believes Tocchet is going to be a great NHL coach... I don't know enough to know enough, but agree with "seems like an intriguing option..." Has he been around since his Phoenix gambling episode? Honestly, any non-internal hire would be a breath of fresh air to me. Looking at that list we are considering two prior Moose coaches, an ex-gambler, a recovering alcoholic, and the least successful coach the Red Wings have had in the last 37 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Has he been around since his Phoenix gambling episode? Honestly, any non-internal hire would be a breath of fresh air to me. Looking at that list we are considering two prior Moose coaches, an ex-gambler, a recovering alcoholic, and the least successful coach the Red Wings have had in the last 37 years. But they work cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Noeller said: I've got a buddy that's a die-hard Flyers fan, and he's pissed that they went with Torts over Tocchet. Truly believes Tocchet is going to be a great NHL coach... I don't know enough to know enough, but agree with "seems like an intriguing option..." Torts will have better year 1 then Tocchet would have. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Torts will have better year 1 then Tocchet would have. Philly sucks tho Probably easier for the Jets to beat out 1 of Dallas or Nashville or Minnesota (12 million in dead cap) then it is for Philly in their division. Edited June 30, 2022 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 2 hours ago, JCon said: But they work cheap! Yet Maurice got paid the same as Trotz. Weird narrative to push for a team who spent to the cap in a no fan year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Goalie said: Yet Maurice got paid the same as Trotz. Weird narrative to push for a team who spent to the cap in a no fan year Wha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 (edited) Edited June 30, 2022 by iHeart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 captaincanuck12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincanuck12 Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2380237 This was out of left field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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