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50 minutes ago, bustamente said:

This pandemic has taught me two things about human beings in general, you can't fix stupid and you can't change the mind of an idiot, so for my own piece of mind I don't bother anymore

You don't change people's minds by simply telling them they are wrong. You change minds by making people realize for themselves that they are idiots. 

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1 hour ago, bustamente said:

This pandemic has taught me two things about human beings in general, you can't fix stupid and you can't change the mind of an idiot, so for my own piece of mind I don't bother anymore

              

                                                     Don't argue with a Karen

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16 hours ago, 17to85 said:

You don't change people's minds by simply telling them they are wrong. You change minds by making people realize for themselves that they are idiots. 

To realize that you are wrong is not enough. You must be willing to accept that realization, and acknowledge it. That requires humility and self-effacement. The current occupant of the White House provides exactly the opposite model. So many of his lies are so simply disproven (“my inauguration was the biggest ever” - “here are pictures and mass transit data easily and unequivocally disproving that” - “fake news”) and yet he brazenly and with blind confidence doubles down every time. And he is admired by many for that characteristic. THAT is the difficulty in changing minds today, people’s egos are too caught up in their positions to admit they are wrong, and on the flip side too many who want to prove them wrong do it to feel a sense of superiority over others and hold it over them, rather than to genuinely embrace knowledge and lead to more enlightenment. The us vs. them mindset prevents a lot of opportunity for increased awareness and learning. IMO. 

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45 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Keeping the bars open will help right Dr. Brent?

Thanks for this, just wanted to add the break down.

Today's #COVID19 data shows:

• 2 cases in the Interlake–Eastern health region

• 11 cases in the Northern health region

• 2 cases in the Prairie Mountain Health region

• 7 cases in the Southern Health region

88 cases in the Winnipeg health region

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No surprise really with the explosion in cases, experts expected a second wave and that it would worse that the first go around, sure we could of done more but people want their freedom and let their guard down so we find ourselves with pockets of new cases day after day, this will not change anytime soon. There is only one way to bring down the levels to a couple of cases here or there but I don't think there is any stomach for a total shutdown by the government or general public.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/world-canada-covid-19-oct-22-1.5772219

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The latest:

  • B.C., Alberta report highest single-day increases in COVID-19 cases.
  • Alberta minister tests positive, premier self-isolates.
  • Manitoba says 27 COVID-19 cases at poultry plant appear to be linked to community spread.
  • Former Belgian PM Sophie Wilmes hospitalized in intensive care with coronavirus.
  • South Korea sees 1st triple-digit daily jump in new COVID-19 cases in a week.

 

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Columbia report: US could have avoided 130,000 COVID deaths with better response
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/522219-columbia-report-us-could-have-avoided-130000-covid-deaths-with-better

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Many nations facing the pandemic crisis have put politics aside and orchestrated a response led by public health experts and global coordination.”

Well, one sure didn't....

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Four additional #COVID19 deaths reported today:

- Man in his 80s and a man in his 70s from the Winnipeg health region and are linked to the outbreak at Parkview Place

- Man in his 80s from the Winnipeg health region

- Man in his 80s from the Interlake–Eastern health region

 

And the latest news has one of the poultry workers from Blumenort in his early 40's as having died but apparently this was last week but only now being tied to the poultry plant.

 

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New restriction in the North and WPG Schools.

Northern Regional Health Authority and Churchill: RESTRICTED

New COVID-19 public health orders will be issued for the Northern health region and Churchill by the Chief Provincial Public Health Officer. These orders will come into effect Monday, Oct. 26, 2020 and remain in effect for a minimum of two weeks.

Under the new orders:

  • The maximum size of gatherings is reduced to five people. This applies to ceremonies such as weddings and funerals and social events like banquets and receptions, as well as informal gatherings such as dinners and house parties.
  • Gatherings involving more than five persons may take place if:
    • the number of persons attending does not exceed 30 per cent of the usual capacity of the place or premises where the gathering is held;
    • the place or premises where the gathering is held is physically divided into separate areas which contain no more than five persons each; and
    • persons in each area are prevented from coming into close proximity with persons in another area during the gathering as well as when entering or leaving.
  • Casinos and bingo halls must close.
  • Entertainment facilities with a license under the Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Control Act that requires the licensee to present live entertainment must close to members of the public, with the exception of providing food for take-out or delivery. Other licensed businesses must limit occupancy to 50 per cent of their usual capacity.
  • The maximum occupancy of retail businesses is limited to 50 per cent of their usual capacity.
  • The maximum occupancy of restaurants is limited to 50 per cent of their usual capacity.
  • The maximum occupancy of personal service businesses is limited to 50 per cent of their usual occupancy or one person for each 10 square metres of the premises that is open to the public, whichever is less.
  • Operators of a restaurant or licensed premises, theatre, museum, gallery, library, personal service business, concert hall, or fitness facility are required to keep contact information for members of the public attending their premises and maintain those records for 21 days to support contract tracing. 

Individuals in the Northern health region must also:

  • Wear a mask in all indoor public places.
  • Stay home when sick.
  • Practice social distancing, hand washing/sanitizing and cough etiquette.
  • Follow public health guidance on travel and self-isolation.
  • Vulnerable people, such as seniors, are encouraged to exercise additional caution.

Previous provisions in place for all other sectors, not listed above, in this region remain in place. Further direction or additional restrictions may put in place by public health at any time.

Winnipeg Schools...

In addition, the following measures will be put in place for schools in the Winnipeg Metropolitan Region and the Northern health regions under the Restricted Level (Orange), effective Oct. 26, 2020:

  • Schools must ensure two meters of physical distancing to the greatest extent possible, and adjust classroom space as necessary; excess furniture must be removed from classrooms to create additional space; other spaces within schools must be repurposed to accommodate more distancing (e.g., multipurpose rooms, empty rooms, shared spaces, common areas, and libraries).
  • Extracurricular activities are only permitted if all learning and distancing requirements have been met. If these activities continue, established guidelines must be followed and, in the case of sports, participants should maintain distance when not active.
  • Teachers and staff who move across cohorts of students, including substitute teachers, are required to wear medical masks.  Medical-grade disposable masks have been issued to all schools. N95 masks are not required.
  • Indoor choir and the use of wind instruments are not permitted.  
  • All field trips must be postponed or cancelled.
  • Blended learning (in-class and online) for grades 9 to 12 where distancing cannot be achieved will continue as per status quo.
  • K-8 students may be offered a temporary remote learning option for the duration of the Restricted level (Orange).
  • All other public health measures will still in effect.

Public health officials also advise:

  • an outbreak has been declared at Arborgate School, 70 Normandeau Bay in  LaBroquerie, and the school has been elevated to orange on the province’s #RestartMB Pandemic Response System;
  • an outbreak has been declared at Ochekwi Sipi Personal Care Home, Fisher River Cree Nation due to a positive case in a health care worker. The facility has been elevated to red on the province’s #RestartMB Pandemic Response System and additional protocols have been put into place; and
  • the outbreak at Bethesda Place personal care home has been declared over. 
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1 hour ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

 Large "worship protest" expects to draw 15,000 attendees to the National Mall for prayer, singing and mass baptisms this weekend. https://nbcnews.to/3m7GJek

The event's Covid-19 mitigation plan doesn't mention masks for attendees; says there will be "a sign placed at the table where we will give away Bibles."

Just say no!
Arrest the battard and put an end to this. This is nothing more than a money making shakedown by some phoney “believer”.

Praise the $or$.

Just say no.

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-vaccine-rapid-tests-1.5774309

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau today announced another contract to buy a promising COVID-19 vaccine now in development — part of a plan to secure millions of vaccine doses to inoculate Canadians from the novel coronavirus.

Trudeau said the government has signed a contract to procure 76 million doses from the Quebec City-biotech company Medicago.

If the vaccine also performs well in a clinical setting, the companies are on track to make it available in the first half of 2021. Medicago has said it has the manufacturing capacity to produce as many as 100 million doses in 2021.

Trudeau also detailed the government's plan to deploy rapid tests throughout the country — devices that health experts say could lessen the burden on lab-based testing in this country as cases continue to climb.

Trudeau said trucks full of Abbott Laboratories' Panbio COVID-19 Rapid Test devices are out today distributing tens of thousands of tests to the provinces and territories.

 

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16 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Good to see. I have not been up-to-date with the Feds response to the pandemic- this is very reassuring. 

Trudeau is not my favorite, but his government seems to be doing a competent job and it is refreshing to see a government be proactive with anything Covid related.

 

I have my reservations about Trudeau, but you have to give him props for his handling of the Pandemic.

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