SpeedFlex27 Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Noeller said: He was Drew Willy-Ed after his time here. Thrown into the fire way too soon and had absolute garbage around him. Always felt like he coulda been something. On an NFL aside, the same thing may happen to Joe Burrow when the Bengals draft him. He may be ruined in a year or two. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberfanMKS Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: On an NFL aside, the same thing may happen to Joe Burrow when the Bengals draft him. He may be ruined in a year or two. Baker Mayfield wbbfan, Noeller and Dr Zaius 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 30, 2020 Report Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said: An o line that wasn't a bunch of pylons would have helped too. Thats always the key especially when developing a young qb. Soo many teams will sell the farm to get a qb, then put him behind a ragtag group of misfit olinemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 31, 2020 Report Share Posted January 31, 2020 6 hours ago, BomberfanMKS said: Baker Mayfield I don't think Mayfield is ruined per se as the Browns are a better team than the Bengals but Kitchens never should have been hired as HC. They had Greg Williams & let him get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) On 2020-01-29 at 12:16 PM, blue_gold_84 said: Marshall Ferguson did some extensive digging and put out a thorough breakdown of Collaros' production through four games to cap off last season and the team's championship run. It's a great read: https://www.cfl.ca/2020/01/28/ferguson-breaking-collaros-2019-starts-winnipeg/ would love to see this compared with other QBs and offences. It seems so weird for a CFL offence to throw nothing deeper than 15 yards in the middle of the field. wonder if this is just data illustrating the constant gripe that the 2019 bombers had no midrange passing attack, everything was either a dump play or a bomb. also wonder if this is a turnover minimization strategy, if you never throw into the middle of the defence then there are fewer defenders around to pick the ball off. Look where the two picks happened; in a crowded area of the field. Edited February 4, 2020 by johnzo JCon and blue_gold_84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Wasn't sure where to put this, but this thread seems as good as anything........re: Our QB situation....... https://www.bluebombers.com/2020/02/03/streveler-released-pursue-nfl-opportunities/?fbclid=IwAR3qIIy_Fy07GAW-GUU1knL16jQQ4G7aF2oZpCTSS9GZVDCz2fHw2ZE4tks JCon and Geebrr 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Gonna miss that beautiful bastard. Geebrr, blue_gold_84 and J5V 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 4 hours ago, johnzo said: would love to see this compared with other QBs and offences. It seems so weird for a CFL offence to throw nothing deeper than 15 yards in the middle of the field. wonder if this is just data illustrating the constant gripe that the 2019 bombers had no midrange passing attack, everything was either a dump play or a bomb. also wonder if this is a turnover minimization strategy, if you never throw into the middle of the defence then there are fewer defenders around to pick the ball off. Look where the three picks happened; in a crowded area of the field. Lower risk, but higher reward, given the number of points we scored. also x 3 wonder if consistently passing outside is going to widen the defence and the gaps for Harris to hit... Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Noeller said: Wasn't sure where to put this, but this thread seems as good as anything........re: Our QB situation....... https://www.bluebombers.com/2020/02/03/streveler-released-pursue-nfl-opportunities/?fbclid=IwAR3qIIy_Fy07GAW-GUU1knL16jQQ4G7aF2oZpCTSS9GZVDCz2fHw2ZE4tks Will be interesting to see how our O redefines itself after losing Lapo, MN and Strev. Any full back QB's available on the market? Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 You won't find many QBs willing to run with the speed, athleticism, and violence of Chris Streveler. NorthernSkunk, GCJenks, blue_gold_84 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 Wonder what happened with Matt in T.O.......After his trip back there....crickets AND now the announcement today they have re-upped Bethel-Thompson...Is Matt out of the picture there???could he return to the fold...?? NorthernSkunk and J5V 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, Stickem said: Wonder what happened with Matt in T.O.......After his trip back there....crickets AND now the announcement today they have re-upped Bethel-Thompson...Is Matt out of the picture there???could he return to the fold...?? Everyone probably waiting on his rehab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 I'd like to know what MBT signed for. Matt may still end up being their guy. Bigblue204, JCon and blue_gold_84 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueBlue83 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Stickem said: Wonder what happened with Matt in T.O.......After his trip back there....crickets AND now the announcement today they have re-upped Bethel-Thompson...Is Matt out of the picture there???could he return to the fold...?? My guess is they went in there thinking the Argos were going to throw gobs of money at them, and instead got a base offer + performance bonus targets. Balked, and they said "fine, MBT has more upside anyways". He definitely has a better arm, and is more mobile. Not surprised they'd roll the dice on him over Nichols! J5V and NorthernSkunk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think prukop has nice potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 So does Nichols come back for an incentive based deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) On 2020-01-30 at 11:24 AM, Noeller said: He was Drew Willy-Ed after his time here. Thrown into the fire way too soon and had absolute garbage around him. Always felt like he coulda been something. Joey Elliott with an introspective look back at his time with the Bombers. Edited February 4, 2020 by SpeedFlex27 Stickem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Gonna miss that beautiful bastard. Bubba Zanetti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 2020-01-29 at 1:21 PM, Floyd said: Love how everyone is pretending our offence was not dysfunctional for half of last season... collaros and buck will show us where I could have improved - I have no doubt Love how everyone who complains about the dysfunctional offence pretends it had to do with the LaPo system and Nichols checkdowns and ignores the fact that Streveler taking over the controls coincides with the decrease in production (and wins). blue_gold_84, MC and Fatty Liver 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Love how everyone who complains about the dysfunctional offence pretends it had to do with the LaPo system and Nichols checkdowns and ignores the fact that Streveler taking over the controls coincides with the decrease in production (and wins). Except we beat nothing but garbage teams with Nichols. We got a win over Calgary that was due to Janarion Grant and a timely interception, aside from that we beat horrible teams and pissed away a huge lead against Toronto. Collaros (2x), Streveler and Nichols all started against Calgary and Nichols had BY FAR the worst game of the bunch. Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. We won a Grey Cup without Nichols, which is something we never came close to achieving with him. Edited February 4, 2020 by Blueandgold Mr Dee, J5V, NorthernSkunk and 2 others 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Love how everyone who complains about the dysfunctional offence pretends it had to do with the LaPo system and Nichols checkdowns and ignores the fact that Streveler taking over the controls coincides with the decrease in production (and wins). I think everyone acknowledges that we wouldn't have won a Grey Cup with Streveler at the helm... and that Collaros showed that it wasn't all on Lapo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny759 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Blueandgold said: Except we beat nothing but garbage teams with Nichols. We got a win over Calgary that was due to Janarion Grant and a timely interception, aside from that we beat horrible teams and pissed away a huge lead against Toronto. Collaros (2x), Streveler and Nichols all started against Calgary and Nichols had BY FAR the worst game of the bunch. Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. We won a Grey Cup without Nichols, which is something we never came close to achieving with him. Professional football is professional football. You can’t say how Nichols would have done in the second half without playing the games but only speculate. But I think a lot of people would disagree with you on the fact that I don’t think we win the grey cup if it’s not for Nichols being this teams starting qb. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Blueandgold said: . Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. I would have debated some of your points, but if this is your default position, that our 7-2 starting QB had nothing to do with any of our success at all, then there is really no point in trying to reason with you. MC, blue_gold_84, Mark F and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) The year the Bombers lost the semi final to the lions at the stadium with Nichols as QB, if they hadhalf the defence they had for the last part of this season, the Bombers would have demolished the lions. (nice sentence! ) NIchols played really well in that game, and deserved a win, the defence absolutely stunk, five Bombers missed tackles on a fifteen yard run for a TD in that game, just awful defence. Crapping on Nichols is dumb. Edited February 4, 2020 by Mark F Mr Dee, Tracker, MC and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Blueandgold said: Except we beat nothing but garbage teams with Nichols. We got a win over Calgary that was due to Janarion Grant and a timely interception, aside from that we beat horrible teams and pissed away a huge lead against Toronto. Collaros (2x), Streveler and Nichols all started against Calgary and Nichols had BY FAR the worst game of the bunch. Let’s stop pretending that Nichols had anything to do with our wins. We won a Grey Cup without Nichols, which is something we never came close to achieving with him. Yeah, that 7-2 start certainly didn't help the team make the playoffs or anything. Oh, wait... Also, your bolded part is wrong. Nichols' QB efficiency vs. CGY in week 9 was 100.2 (in a win), while Streveler's in week 19 @ CGY was 59.2 (in a loss). It looks like your NDS is starting to flare up again, causing you to post made-up claims and hopelessly ignorant comments. It's amazing the lengths you'll go to vilify the former. And by amazing, I mean pitiful. Edited February 4, 2020 by blue_gold_84 Mark F, Mr Dee, MC and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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