M.O.A.B. Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 So we beat Saskachewhine again. blue_gold_84, Bigblue204 and rebusrankin 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: So we beat Saskachewhine again. Moe was crying the blues cuz his rider city didn't meet the grade...Boo hoo...Somebody should tell him that Larry and Curly are looking for him....what a stooge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Sure changed his tune. Exactly the same panic and hand-wringing as last year (in which I participated...) - a deal will get done, there was never any doubt. I wonder how they might resolve report and pass bonuses? Reports have Some QBs due upwards of 400K of their money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, DR. CFL said: I wonder how they might resolve report and pass bonuses? Reports have Some QBs due upwards of 400K of their money. Couldn't you just adjust it based on the number of games played? Take whatever the regular season amount was and divide it by three (assuming 6 of 18 games played in shortened season)... It'd be harder for QBs to overcome one bad game but, I mean that's really the best they could do. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Eternal optimist said: Couldn't you just adjust it based on the number of games played? Take whatever the regular season amount was and divide it by three (assuming 6 of 18 games played in shortened season)... It'd be harder for QBs to overcome one bad game but, I mean that's really the best they could do. I guess the issue is these are the marquee players the league and teams need and are they going to suck it up. The other issue becomes I believe any new CBA is not just for this year and what are the carryovers that the league wants to impose on the players given the financial impact this season has on league revenues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, DR. CFL said: I guess the issue is these are the marquee players the league and teams need and are they going to suck it up. The other issue becomes I believe any new CBA is not just for this year and what are the carryovers that the league wants to impose on the players given the financial impact this season has on league revenues? Sure, but I would think that of the two group, the owners are in better a bargaining position. If a QB wants to walk off the job, owners could still find someone else willing to step up and play QB for the reduced rates. Does get to a tipping point though, where the talent at QB (or any other position for that matter) is so bad that the owners have to pony up. As for the CBA - I agree, if I was on the CFLPA, I'd be negotiating a shorter-term deal, simply given the really weird situation COVID has caused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Sounds like the Feds don't want to give $. Yet another reason to dislike the Liberals. Pallister is a **** but at least he put up some &. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Eternal optimist, Tracker, Fred C Dobbs and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Wait I thought they all had off-season jobs and weren't going to risk injury just for a game... Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: This eerily feels like the start of the 2012 Bomber season and the "give us another month to complete the stadium" fiasco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 I'm with Farhan....my optimism changes by the hour. Ha ha. I'm feeling excited, tho, that there is "progress". Things seem to be happening, and as I've said all along, when Wade Miller says something is going to happen, it happens. That man is a mob boss if ever there was one in the CFL... Mr Dee and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Floyd said: Wait I thought they all had off-season jobs and weren't going to risk injury just for a game... it's almost like individuals are...different... Floyd, Eternal optimist and Noeller 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 22, 2020 Report Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: Sure, but I would think that of the two group, the owners are in better a bargaining position. If a QB wants to walk off the job, owners could still find someone else willing to step up and play QB for the reduced rates. Does get to a tipping point though, where the talent at QB (or any other position for that matter) is so bad that the owners have to pony up. As for the CBA - I agree, if I was on the CFLPA, I'd be negotiating a shorter-term deal, simply given the really weird situation COVID has caused. Easier said then done....just say you have 3 of 9 of the marquee QBs decide they want their report and pass bonuses or they sit it out....there is a serious drop off in those teams offensive production....tough sell. Eternal optimist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, DR. CFL said: Easier said then done....just say you have 3 of 9 of the marquee QBs decide they want their report and pass bonuses or they sit it out....there is a serious drop off in those teams offensive production....tough sell. Sure, labor disputes enable the QBs and other players to have some bargaining power, but most of the QBs in the CFL reside in the USA. Since they don't reside in Canada they aren't eligible for CERB... there is a lot of people hurting in the US for jobs, especially football players where life's become a standstill. There would absolutely be a drop off in offensive output, my point was that in this case the QBs have more to lose (their livelihood) as opposed to the owners. Owners have more viable substitutes such as using their backup QB, airlifting in a new one, or even trading for one from another CFL team. I'll concede that offensive output would likely decline, but I just think the QBs don't have as much bargaining power as is currently perceived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: This statement is an egregious insult to Brandon. its more on par with Kenora..haha,,,though thats a slap in Kenora's face Noeller and rebusrankin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Eternal optimist said: Sure, labor disputes enable the QBs and other players to have some bargaining power, but most of the QBs in the CFL reside in the USA. Since they don't reside in Canada they aren't eligible for CERB... there is a lot of people hurting in the US for jobs, especially football players where life's become a standstill. There would absolutely be a drop off in offensive output, my point was that in this case the QBs have more to lose (their livelihood) as opposed to the owners. Owners have more viable substitutes such as using their backup QB, airlifting in a new one, or even trading for one from another CFL team. I'll concede that offensive output would likely decline, but I just think the QBs don't have as much bargaining power as is currently perceived. A couple of those poor souls made 500k plus lat season...no tag day for them. A slight drop off....seriously...How many back up QBs can you even name....never mind want to start? I guess time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 hour ago, DR. CFL said: A couple of those poor souls made 500k plus lat season...no tag day for them. A slight drop off....seriously...How many back up QBs can you even name....never mind want to start? I guess time will tell. As soon as one problem gets resolved or any positive news comes out, you find a negative twist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Floyd said: As soon as one problem gets resolved or any positive news comes out, you find a negative twist... I guess that’s simply an indication of the complexity of the situation. No simple solution....no quick fix....just reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Zaius Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 11 hours ago, Booch said: its more on par with Kenora..haha,,,though thats a slap in Kenora's face Kenora is 100 times nicer than Regina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 If Ambrosie is able to squeeze the 45 million out of the feds, the other pieces ought to fall into place. I am cautiously optimistic that it will happen. God knows, we need some good news to distract us. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said: Kenora is 100 times nicer than Regina oh by far...I was talkng about amenities..Kenora is slightly better lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 To no one’s surprise... Tracker, JCon and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 OK, now I’m confused. And the survey says... Bigblue204 and Floyd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 23, 2020 Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) Unfortunately, we need reporters like Dunk who reports on the CFL first & doesn't appear to be using it as a temporary gig to becoming a Jays, Raptors or Leafs beat writer. He raises a few hackles but that is okay. I'm at the point where I don't care if we have a season or not. Clown show ownership & lack of leadership from the league along with Players who don't trust anything the CFL does is a bad mix for anything going forward seriously & to be successful. I read that the CFL upped the salaries from 33% to 50% to get the players to sign. Why the dicking around? They should have come to the table with the most honest & best proposal right from the start so as to not waste time . But that's not the CFL's way. Edited July 23, 2020 by SpeedFlex27 Eternal optimist, DR. CFL and CodyT 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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