Tracker Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Jpan85 said: They did not, they beat Calgary the week after the loss to Argos I got it bass-ackwards. The Bombers played poorly against the TiCats and followed that up with a dreadful game against the Argos. The scenario was correct but the sequence was wrong. The game this Saturday is still critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Tracker said: I got it bass-ackwards. The Bombers played poorly against the TiCats and followed that up with a dreadful game against the Argos. The scenario was correct but the sequence was wrong. The game this Saturday is still critical. it wasn't a dreadful game against the Argos, it was a dreadful half a game. Don't forget that they did jump out to a big lead in the first half. It was just the passive coaching that cost them. Ritchie Hall and his prevent defense are responsible for 2 losses this year. Sask and Toronto. gave up big long time killing drives in the final moments to lose a lead. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, 17to85 said: it wasn't a dreadful game against the Argos, it was a dreadful half a game. Don't forget that they did jump out to a big lead in the first half. It was just the passive coaching that cost them. Ritchie Hall and his prevent defense are responsible for 2 losses this year. Sask and Toronto. gave up big long time killing drives in the final moments to lose a lead. Don't forget in the TO game......the "playsafe" O, when we had the lead 17to85 and DR. CFL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, do or die said: Don't forget in the TO game......the "playsafe" O, when we had the lead A major factor....2 and outs .....blame the defence. shadybob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 hours ago, NorthernSkunk said: If Streveler plays as good or better than Nichols has.... do you think Nichols would be happy backing up Chris next year ? Not a chance... I think he would really have to step up in order for him to win the job though. At his current level / stats it will not be good enough for him to win out the job here or anywhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, DR. CFL said: A major factor....2 and outs .....blame the defence. Defence gave up the long drive at the end of both games, yeah the offense didn't help, but they could have got a stop and won the game, they didn't Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 20 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Defence gave up the long drive at the end of both games, yeah the offense didn't help, but they could have got a stop and won the game, they didn't Sure and the offence could have scored..... shadybob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, DR. CFL said: Sure and the offence could have scored..... could have, but at the very end it came down to a defensive stop that didn't happen because Ritchie Hall has this prevent D that he's had for ever and the same **** happens. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, 17to85 said: Ritchie Hall and his prevent defense are responsible for 2 losses this year. Someone said they had Willie Jefferson playing linebacker on the game losing drive, is this true if so, why the hell would they do that? And why doesn't O'Shea tell him to ditch the prevent (winning) defence? Not disagreeing with you, I just wonder about why O'Shea goes along with it. He's the boss. Edited September 5, 2019 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mark F said: Someone said they had Willie Jefferson playing linebacker on the game losing drive, is this true if so, why the hell would they do that? And why doesn't O'Shea tell him to ditch the prevent (winning) defence? Not disagreeing with you, I just wonder about why O'Shea goes along with it. He's the boss. well he's employed 2 defensive coordinators in his time here who both like the bend don't break D. I would guess that's why he is OK with it. You can justify it as "well they didn't make the plays to get the stop" but that's just a cop out. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, DR. CFL said: Sure and the offence could have scored..... But the offense did score, getting the go-ahead major with just under four minutes left in the 4th. The defense then let the Riders' offense march down the field 87 yards to get in range for the winning FG. Why are you deflecting? Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 The defence kept us in the game in the first quarter and lost us the game in the last drive. bearpants and Blue-urns 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 No deflection required. D simply collapsed on that last drive. Overall, pretty good game.....but crunch time is crunch time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, do or die said: No deflection required. D simply collapsed on that last drive. Overall, pretty good game.....but crunch time is crunch time. I'd say it was better than pretty good, but yeah, gotta seal the deal when the time comes. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I'd say it was better than pretty good, but yeah, gotta seal the deal when the time comes. To be fair.. Several missed tackles and Bighill invisible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Play calling and execution by Saskatchewan. We didn’t get in done on defence, but it wasn’t only one man. Sometimes, you have to give credit when it’s due.. Bigblue204, DR. CFL and Tracker 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: Play calling and execution by Saskatchewan. We didn’t get in done on defence, but it wasn’t only one man. Sometimes, you have to give credit when it’s due.. Nope, we don't. Don't care. Riders suck. Always have, always will. Wanna-B-Fanboy, JCon, Bigblue204 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Goalie said: To be fair.. Several missed tackles and Bighill invisible. I re-watched the last drive a few times focusing on Bighill and he was either dropping back into coverage 10-15 yds. or he was up on the line rushing the QB,. No matter what he did he ended up in the wrong position, he would have been better off standing his ground and pretending to play LB. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: I re-watched the last drive a few times focusing on Bighill and he was either dropping back into coverage 10-15 yds. or he was up on the line rushing the QB,. No matter what he did he ended up in the wrong position, he would have been better off standing his ground and pretending to play LB. first time watching Ritchie Hall call a D? either blitz or drop way back, that happens all the time with him. He gives up the short underneath passes by design. BigBlueFanatic, bigg jay and Bigblue204 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline_x Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 16 hours ago, 17to85 said: could have, but at the very end it came down to a defensive stop that didn't happen because Ritchie Hall has this prevent D that he's had for ever and the same **** happens. Well.. When the offence finished the last three drives going 2 and out, its hard to put that on the defence, when the offence failed to run the clock out. You either blame both or neither. NorthernSkunk and DR. CFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Adrenaline_x said: Well.. When the offence finished the last three drives going 2 and out, its hard to put that on the defence, when the offence failed to run the clock out. You either blame both or neither. I blame everyone. Including you! And the CBC! Cause I want a game where Walby does the pbp. If he was calling it Sunday. They would have won! Adrenaline_x, Tracker and NorthernSkunk 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 13 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: But the offense did score, getting the go-ahead major with just under four minutes left in the 4th. The defense then let the Riders' offense march down the field 87 yards to get in range for the winning FG. Why are you deflecting? I don’t see it as deflecting....you want to break the game down into incremental parts and individual plays. The game is the sum of all the parts and all the plays and components O D and ST. Any coach will tell you that no singular play or series can be examined and be responsible for the eventual result. 60 minutes....85 to 100 plays and the cumulative affect is the resultant score. Blame who you want hate who you want fire who you want....it isn’t that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 My old pal Rod Hill would always say in a league where you have 3 downs to make 10yds make a team but together a 15 play drive to beat you rather than gamble and give up huge offensive plays. He said if you break down film over the course of a game there are very few 15 play drives. The result is usually a 2 or 3 and out or a turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, DR. CFL said: I don’t see it as deflecting....you want to break the game down into incremental parts and individual plays. The game is the sum of all the parts and all the plays and components O D and ST. Any coach will tell you that no singular play or series can be examined and be responsible for the eventual result. 60 minutes....85 to 100 plays and the cumulative affect is the resultant score. Blame who you want hate who you want fire who you want....it isn’t that simple. True....but in that game to close out the 2nd quarter there was a series of plays, resulting in basically a 6 point swing where you could say the game was lost...and essentially was due to a ticky tack hold...and a non hold...around the 3:25 mark Streveler had a nice QB keeper...had us in field goal range but was called back for a hold on Gray. Now go watch it if you have it PVR'd..He was drive blocking..square on the DT basically with a pretty standard block you see all game..hands inside the shoulders...not off to the side...didn't pull guy anyway whatsoever..just continued his block and pushed the DT back...standard stuff...but took us out of range and we punted. Then on the Sask drive...around 2:25 or so when they missed that deep shot to Moore...you can hear "hold" being yelled...but no call....re-watch it...Biggie is blitzing...Right Tackle grabs him and basically tackles/pulls him to the ground..right in plain view of 2 officials...text book hold which is always called....but nope....would have pushed them back...made it 1st and 20 and good chance we make them punt before they stalled in FG range and got their 16th point..now how was that not called?...it was an edge play and not obstructed, and was a focal part of the play too as being a blitz hard not to watch that part of the line. The funny part was Doofus Suitor's narrative about that..and what went on as he commented on the hold being vocalized on the field. If's and's or but's be damned...that was a pretty critical series of events that played a major role in games out come Wanna-B-Fanboy, Piggy 1, Noeller and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Suitor justified the non tackle on Bighill by saying it could have been a PI call on us (no) and on a ball that was nowhere near Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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