do or die Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 "cusp" TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 limit our mistakes... on the verge... TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 "great week of practice" TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 film was studied hard….and the guys are ready to play......well you know TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) "We are better than our record" Edited September 19, 2018 by do or die TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 They are who we thought they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Execute. Make plays. TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 On 2018-09-16 at 3:23 PM, pigseye said: lol, not pining over them but I wouldn't mind seeing what 4 or 5 international receivers on the field at the same time could do. I'd rather see 1 or 2 legit top American receivers and the the canadians cause the Canucks can play. I trust them more than the Americans. TheSource, Tracker, rebusrankin and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, do or die said: "We are better than our record" the biggest lie in the history of sports. Stickem, TheSource, Dragon37 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Mr Dee said: “When we won four games, we weren’t coming in and telling our players how good we are,” Jones said. “And right now, after losing a football game, we’re not coming in and telling our players how bad we are. We need to play good, consistent football and trust the process.” - isn’t this the same thing O’Shea has been saying and gets roasted for? O'Shea gets roasted for doing and saying dumb things. Doing things that cost the team wins like ... A 61 yard field goal attempt, in a dome Gambling on 3rd down, twice, in the red zone, losing both of them, when you have a 17-0 lead, and ultimately losing 20-17 Faking a punt that loses us the game Then stubbornly saying a few days later ... "... Yup, I'd do it again, definitely". But most of all, O'Shea gets roasted for treating fans like they're stupid, with that condescending, arrogant smirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, J5V said: A 61 yard field goal attempt, in a dome That decision was questionable and was the object of what O’Shea said he’d do again. 20 minutes ago, J5V said: Gambling on 3rd down, twice, in the red zone, losing both of them, when you have a 17-0 lead, and ultimately losing 20-17 They gambled because of the stats on those kind of gambles. I believe the Bombers were 25 out of 26 on 3rd down gambles. The gamble wasn’t really the problem. The play selection or execution did matter. Or maybe BC actually defended it well. BUT, in the previous example, don’t forget, the yardage needed was 4 yards on 3rd down, SO, which decision was more correct? 25 minutes ago, J5V said: Faking a punt that loses us the game If I remember correctly, the example you cited was not called by O’Shea, but was a Medlock decision.. blue_gold_84, Wanna-B-Fanboy, BigBlueFanatic and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: That decision was questionable and was the object of what O’Shea said he’d do again. They gambled because of the stats on those kind of gambles. I believe the Bombers were 25 out of 26 on 3rd down gambles. The gamble wasn’t really the problem. The play selection or execution did matter. Or maybe BC actually defended it well. BUT, in the previous example, don’t forget, the yardage needed was 4 yards on 3rd down, SO, which decision was more correct? If I remember correctly, the example you cited was not called by O’Shea, but was a Medlock decision.. correct on no3. For me, ill take gambles of aggression. especially out of mos. Aggressive football is good football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Just now, Mr Dee said: That decision was questionable and was the object of what O’Shea said he’d do again. They gambled because of the stats on those kind of gambles. I believe the Bombers were 25 out of 26 on 3rd down gambles. The gamble wasn’t really the problem. The play selection or execution did matter. Or maybe BC actually defended it well. BUT, in the previous example, don’t forget, the yardage needed was 4 yards on 3rd down, SO, which decision was more correct? If I remember correctly, the example you cited was not called by O’Shea, but was a Medlock decision.. Yes and Lapo doesn't escape scrutiny either but my point was the roasting of O'Shea. For the fans that have had enough of him these are some of the things cited, whether correct or not. I believe there is a sense that the team should be better than it is after 5 years. A sense that O'Shea is actually holding the team back due to his inability to admit mistakes and a willingness to repeat them. The smirk and the condescension only add to the bitterness. It may be that many of those same fans will give O'Shea credit for improving the team from what it was when he first came here, although that wasn't hard, really. It's just that now they want to see the team take the next step and the confidence in O'Shea just isn't there for the reasons stated above. O'Shea is a tremendous player's coach. I don't think anyone disputes that. Problem is, he's a below .500 player's coach and an 0-fer playoff coach. It's not good enough. If the team falters any worse than it has already or completely collapses, a 6 or 7 win season, I believe Mike will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, J5V said: If the team falters any worse than it has already or completely collapses, a 6 or 7 win season, I believe Mike will be done. Noooooooooo. I would have never guessed you felt that way!!! Wanna-B-Fanboy and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Better defense than the start of the year. We still have only won 5 games. TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: Noooooooooo. I would have never guessed you felt that way!!! It's no given. O'Shea's got another year after this one on his contract and it may be that he isn't going anywhere until the end of next season regardless of how poorly the team does. We don't have that kind of money to throw around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, J5V said: It's no given. O'Shea's got another year after this one on his contract and it may be that he isn't going anywhere until the end of next season regardless of how poorly the team does. We don't have that kind of money to throw around. You're really starting to look like the Riders troll everyone thought you were... SPuDS, Noeller and Wanna-B-Fanboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Better defense than the start of the year. We still have only won 5 games. We seem to be underperforming in all areas, at least, I can't think of a single facet of the game that we excel at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, J5V said: We seem to be underperforming in all areas, at least, I can't think of a single facet of the game that we excel at. One of the things coaches constantly emphasize in winning or losing.....they emphasize the need to demonstrate improvement in all facets of the game over the course of the season. This team has not demonstrated that over the short term, nor over the long term. TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 3 hours ago, J5V said: We seem to be underperforming in all areas, at least, I can't think of a single facet of the game that we excel at. I know right I mean it's not like we have a player in the top 2 or 3 of the league in their position....not even one never mind 2. TheSource 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSource Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: I know right I mean it's not like we have a player in the top 2 or 3 of the league in their position....not even one never mind 2. Andrew Harris, but after that, nothing... And some positions like receiver the team is struggling to have anything in the top 15 Edited September 20, 2018 by TheSource Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 14 hours ago, J5V said: It's no given. O'Shea's got another year after this one on his contract and it may be that he isn't going anywhere until the end of next season regardless of how poorly the team does. We don't have that kind of money to throw around. The BOD and Walters have to balance the savings of keeping O'Shea around if there is no improvement in the team performance vs what the team will lose if he will be kept, as the honeymoon with O'Shea sure looks like it is over. He has not shown that he can field a team which lives up to its potential or even exceed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 16 hours ago, J5V said: Yes and Lapo doesn't escape scrutiny either but my point was the roasting of O'Shea. For the fans that have had enough of him these are some of the things cited, whether correct or not. I believe there is a sense that the team should be better than it is after 5 years. A sense that O'Shea is actually holding the team back due to his inability to admit mistakes and a willingness to repeat them. The smirk and the condescension only add to the bitterness. It may be that many of those same fans will give O'Shea credit for improving the team from what it was when he first came here, although that wasn't hard, really. It's just that now they want to see the team take the next step and the confidence in O'Shea just isn't there for the reasons stated above. O'Shea is a tremendous player's coach. I don't think anyone disputes that. Problem is, he's a below .500 player's coach and an 0-fer playoff coach. It's not good enough. If the team falters any worse than it has already or completely collapses, a 6 or 7 win season, I believe Mike will be done. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 hours ago, TheSource said: Andrew Harris, but after that, nothing... And some positions like receiver the team is struggling to have anything in the top 15 So let's look at our excellent running attack from last game. Harris, 10 carries, 21 yards Demski, 4 carries, 32 yards Flanders, 2 carries, 6 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Tracker said: The BOD and Walters have to balance the savings of keeping O'Shea around if there is no improvement in the team performance vs what the team will lose if he will be kept, as the honeymoon with O'Shea sure looks like it is over. He has not shown that he can field a team which lives up to its potential or even exceed it. O'Shea may not have lost the players but I'm being told he has lost the fans and that Miller isn't being completely honest with reported attendance figures. I'm not sure how that dynamic is going to play out but if fans start voting with their wallets, it's going to put a lot of pressure on Miller eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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