Floyd Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Its going to be painful if we watch top DCs move around while Walters/Osh discuss Hall's future and then ultimately decide there's just a few 'tweaks' to be made... Get Nelson in here now...!!! This is a GC team with Nelson - not all that different from Hall in a lot of ways just way way more aggressive Sard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 13 minutes ago, Floyd said: Its going to be painful if we watch top DCs move around while Walters/Osh discuss Hall's future and then ultimately decide there's just a few 'tweaks' to be made... Get Nelson in here now...!!! This is a GC team with Nelson - not all that different from Hall in a lot of ways just way way more aggressive Did you see Ottawa's defense get shredded in the playoffs? And that was to the Riders not even Reilly and the Eskimos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, Floyd said: Its going to be painful if we watch top DCs move around while Walters/Osh discuss Hall's future and then ultimately decide there's just a few 'tweaks' to be made... Get Nelson in here now...!!! This is a GC team with Nelson - not all that different from Hall in a lot of ways just way way more aggressive We're looking for a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, 17to85 said: Implying that our coaching staff doesn't have legitimacy already? I mean for **** sakes both Lapo and Hall have been head coaches in this league! Not like the Bombers have a bunch of nobodies coaching them. Both were unemployed when we hired them, possibly even past their best before dates but they were good enough to replace Marcel and Gary, which isn't saying much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 hours ago, SPuDS said: ...? was he not fired from his last gig as well? He's still one of the best DC's in the league. Nelson was doing a fine job in Ottawa, wasn't really any reason to replace him except that someone better came on the market. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hard to imagine many doing a worse job than Hall. Hall's biggest recommendation was that he was better than the guy he replaced. Faint praise indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, pigseye said: He's still one of the best DC's in the league. Nelson was doing a fine job in Ottawa, wasn't really any reason to replace him except that someone better came on the market. He found ways to get pressure on BLM in the 2016 GC, after BLM had literally been playing QB in his living room all season. pigseye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, pigseye said: Both were unemployed when we hired them, possibly even past their best before dates but they were good enough to replace Marcel and Gary, which isn't saying much. LaPolice had a good gig with TSN, so it isn't like he was just at home on the couch eating cheetos. And just because he replaced Bellefeuille doesn't mean his hiring should be diminished. The offense was the least of the team's problems for the bulk of the season, if not the strongest phase of the team. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 13 hours ago, 17to85 said: Did you see Ottawa's defense get shredded in the playoffs? And that was to the Riders not even Reilly and the Eskimos. I saw our D get shredded too nelson is a proven commodity - ottawas problem was letting too much talent walk in the offseason Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, blueingreenland said: Maybe we can get permission to talk to Mark Nelson now that he is no longer DC. I think Nick Nolte would look good in Blue and Gold again. Even with a nutjob as a HC in 2009 he still put a pretty good D on the field. Edited December 5, 2017 by kelownabomberfan SPuDS and BigBlueFanatic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 18 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: I think Nick Nolte would look good in Blue and Gold again. Even with a nutjob as a HC in 2009 he still put a pretty good D on the field. I really liked Nelson's defense.. I wouldn't mind that move at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 10:43 AM, Rich said: Hasnt thrown cold water on Manziel either. Practically endorsing the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 15 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: LaPolice had a good gig with TSN, so it isn't like he was just at home on the couch eating cheetos. And just because he replaced Bellefeuille doesn't mean his hiring should be diminished. The offense was the least of the team's problems for the bulk of the season, if not the strongest phase of the team. Still out of coaching and had taken a career as a TSN panelist. Nichols and Harris get my credit for making the offence go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 JJ is pumping Johnny Football's tires hard. Warren Moon? Seriously? Quote “I could plug him in very, very easily. I think he’s I worked him out twice and his arm strength is much better than I thought it was,” Jones continued. “I really think if he makes a commitment to come up here for three or four years that he’ll write his own ticket if he wants to go play in the NFL again. It’ll be a Warren Moon situation, to be quite honest. I think he has the potential to be a great football player https://www.cfl.ca/2017/12/04/jones-says-plug-manziel-ticats-offence-easily/ Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Floyd said: I saw our D get shredded too nelson is a proven commodity - ottawas problem was letting too much talent walk in the offseason Hall is a proven commodity too, thought of so highly at one point he was given a head coaching position. So if talent is key for a defensive coordinator can we honestly say this team had enough talent? Linebackers were an issue most of the season, secondary had some issues this year... SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Hall is a proven commodity too, thought of so highly at one point he was given a head coaching position. So if talent is key for a defensive coordinator can we honestly say this team had enough talent? Linebackers were an issue most of the season, secondary had some issues this year... I've said before that Richie hall with mo Lloyd is a grey cup D... without an absolute beast in the middle, you're done for sigb muamba and keep hall - sure? i just think Nelson gets more out of wild and santosknox than hall will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Floyd said: I've said before that Richie hall with mo Lloyd is a grey cup D... without an absolute beast in the middle, you're done for sigb muamba and keep hall - sure? i just think Nelson gets more out of wild and santosknox than hall will Muamba isn't a free agent. And I'm not sure if Hall's system (as it was implemented in 2017) is a MLB away from being a championship defense. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, Floyd said: I've said before that Richie hall with mo Lloyd is a grey cup D... without an absolute beast in the middle, you're done for sigb muamba and keep hall - sure? i just think Nelson gets more out of wild and santosknox than hall will If Wild hadn't been hurt all year there would have been less issues with the linebackers, but as it was he barely played. So if we're lacking quality at a position blame the coordinator? Some people are just so committed to the idea that Ritchie Hall is the source of all the woes on this team. blue_gold_84 and SPuDS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: Hall is a proven commodity too, thought of so highly at one point he was given a head coaching position. Jeff Reinebold was thought so highly that he was given a head coach and GM position..... Mark F and pigseye 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: If Wild hadn't been hurt all year there would have been less issues with the linebackers, but as it was he barely played. So if we're lacking quality at a position blame the coordinator? Some people are just so committed to the idea that Ritchie Hall is the source of all the woes on this team. Hall is definitely one of the reason's along with about 3 or 4 players on D. If the DC can't stand up to the HC, when he is obviously wrong on his starters, then he needs to either grow a pair or hit the road because he is of absolutely no use just going through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 56 minutes ago, Brandon said: Jeff Reinebold was thought so highly that he was given a head coach and GM position..... isn't that the point he is making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 6 hours ago, SPuDS said: isn't that the point he is making? That is not what I took away from what he was saying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 10 hours ago, 17to85 said: If Wild hadn't been hurt all year there would have been less issues with the linebackers, but as it was he barely played. So if we're lacking quality at a position blame the coordinator? Some people are just so committed to the idea that Ritchie Hall is the source of all the woes on this team. Um the post you're quoting said I would be fine with Hall staying if we signed an all star level MLB Wild is not an MLB - tried that already, he's better as WIL maybe you're too committed to arguing...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 13 hours ago, Brandon said: Jeff Reinebold was thought so highly that he was given a head coach and GM position..... When was he ever a GM? SPuDS, Brandon and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Jacquie said: When was he ever a GM? In 1997 and 1998, when he was also the head coach. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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