HardCoreBlue Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 On 2022-11-22 at 8:05 PM, Mark H. said: Health spending accounts already exist, in both the public and private sector. Yes they are set up presently to complement health care coverage not replace it. Mark H. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Man, these "freedom" convoy "lawyers" will not go down in history as being professional. Or rational. Or objective. Tracker and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Man, these "freedom" convoy "lawyers" will not go down in history as being professional. Or rational. Or objective. Or qualified. The worst people collect other terrible people. In fact, I think that's the new CPC motto: The worst people, representing the worst people. WildPath, blue_gold_84 and Noeller 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Really enjoying the great takes here on the convoy "lawyers". So dumb, unprofessional etc. Just like the convoy right? Meanwhile you all have how many shots of this vaccine that everyone knows doesn't do a single thing to stop the spread. Just like everyone in that convoy knew last February. You guys are all hilariously smug and condescending, meanwhile us "flat earth anti-vaxxers" have been proven right about literally everything to do with covid so far. And it wasn't even that hard - all you have to do is use some common sense and not buy in to the ridiculous fear-mongering. JCon, Noeller and WildPath 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 A covidiot appears! bigg jay, max power, Fatty Liver and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: A covidiot appears! Serious question: what exactly do you think the covidiots have been wrong about so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, max power said: Serious question: what exactly do you think the covidiots have been wrong about so far? JCon, rebusrankin, Sard and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said: Man, these "freedom" convoy "lawyers" will not go down in history as being professional. Or rational. Or objective. But well-paid, courtesy of the gullible. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 44 minutes ago, max power said: Serious question: what exactly do you think the covidiots have been wrong about so far? Based on first hand experience, particularly with the delta variant, there was a vast, vast difference between being vaccinated vs. unvaccinated rebusrankin, blue_gold_84, Noeller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 In the hearings yesterday, PM Trudeau reported that then-PC leader Candice Bergen privately approached him with concerns about the Freedumb Convoy yes shortly thereafter publicly called on him to meet with the protesters. Trudeau described this a hypocritical, and Bergen predictably denied it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mark H. said: Based on first hand experience, particularly with the delta variant, there was a vast, vast difference between being vaccinated vs. unvaccinated Not sure what you mean by first hand experience. I would disagree on "vast" as well. Any benefit of the vaccines didn't last very long (hence all the boosters). And it's been well established that it did nothing to actually stop transmission. Making the mandates completely pointless (and I would argue, immoral). And if I knew this already last winter, I guarantee you the federal and provincial governments knew. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Dunning-Kruger Effect on full display. Noeller and Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 And if you want to talk about the convoy specifically, no one in this hearing has been able to actually name any instance of violence that happened, other than from the cops breaking it up after the EA was enacted. Nothing illegal either, other than parking violations. No shortage of smears and flat out lies from the mainstream media though. 42 minutes ago, Noeller said: Like what? Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Dunning-Kruger Effect on full display. Clever. Do you think that the covid vaccines do anything to stop transmission? Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, max power said: This whole thread is basically completely one-sided. Is it really that bad to have someone with a different point of view? Do YOU think that the covid vaccine stops transmission? Do you think that if the freedom convoy was completely peaceful it was justified to break it up by force by basically enacting martial law? Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sard Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, max power said: Clever. Do you think that the covid vaccines do anything to stop transmission? Nobody ever said the vaccines stop transmission, they drastically reduce severe outcomes. The reason for boosters is 2-fold, decreasing effectiveness over time and mutation of the virus... no different than the annual flu vaccine because it is different strain(s) of the flu going around every year. As for the protest, if you think that honking horns all day and all night in the middle of a city is peaceful, then there's no reasoning with you. rebusrankin, Tracker, JCon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, max power said: Not sure what you mean by first hand experience. I would disagree on "vast" as well. Any benefit of the vaccines didn't last very long (hence all the boosters). And it's been well established that it did nothing to actually stop transmission. Making the mandates completely pointless (and I would argue, immoral). And if I knew this already last winter, I guarantee you the federal and provincial governments knew. It doesn't matter to me whether or not you agree. I am referring to what we experienced in our community. Unvaccinated people got very, very sick. And yes, it was new vaccine and it waned over time. But it still did a lot of good. JCon, WildPath and rebusrankin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mark H. said: It doesn't matter to me whether or not you agree. I am referring to what we experienced in our community. Unvaccinated people got very, very sick. And yes, it was new vaccine and it waned over time. But it still did a lot of good. Thanks for the answer. I'm glad to hear it helped. The numbers I've seen don't bear that out that it did a "lot" of good, but I'm happy to be wrong in at least your case. In my circles I didn't notice any difference. I know very few people, vaccinated or not, that got very very sick from covid. This winter, and even later last winter, I'd say the people I know are vaccinated tend to be getting sicker than the unvaccinated. But the unvaccinated I know tend to be younger anyways. Which I'm pretty sure has a far bigger effect on things than the vaccines ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 Invoking the Emergencies Act had more to do with the economic impacts Almost 4 billion dollars in trade was lost and high profile American politicians were phoning our government - that's the real issue Fatty Liver, rebusrankin and blue_gold_84 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 I still don't understand the freedumb convoy, I mean protesting the end mandates that are expiring in month was pretty ******* stupid... I dont like the dark! Let's protest tonight until they let the sun up! "Yeah! Take that you ******* dictator!" So dumb... JCon and WildPath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Imagine being so utterly ******* braindead that you'd try to pass off tweets of a Romanian politician* as evidence to support your garbage claims. * Terhes is an established covidiot and right-wing politician who went so far as to compare, albeit erroneously, Trudeau to Ceaucescu. LOL, obviously I'm talking about the videos. Which have clips from all sorts of people, including the CDC and Fauci. But yeah I'm the braindead one here. I'm sure you'll never watch them. I might not want to face some of that either if I'd been like that. You're right about one thing though, covidiots like me aren't the biggest victims here. At least not the ones that haven't lost their jobs or had their lives ruined in other ways. I'm fine. I haven't spent 2.5 years of my life wallowing in fear and hatred of my fellow citizens because of a bunch of cynical politicians and ass-covering doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 minute ago, max power said: LOL, obviously I'm talking about the videos. Which have clips from all sorts of people, including the CDC and Fauci. But yeah I'm the braindead one here. I'm sure you'll never watch them. I might not want to face some of that either if I'd been like that. You're right about one thing though, covidiots like me aren't the biggest victims here. At least not the ones that haven't lost their jobs or had their lives ruined in other ways. I'm fine. I haven't spent 2.5 years of my life wallowing in fear and hatred of my fellow citizens because of a bunch of cynical politicians and ass-covering doctors. Were you repeatedly dropped on your head as an infant? Or you were just born this stupid? JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: I still don't understand the freedumb convoy, I mean protesting the end mandates that are expiring in month was pretty ******* stupid... I dont like the dark! Let's protest tonight until they let the sun up! "Yeah! Take that you ******* dictator!" So dumb... As far as I know there were no mandates scheduled to expire at that time. Do you mean the provincial stuff? There were some vague comments that the mandates weren't permanent, but there was no real indication that they were going to let up any time soon. And the federal mandates that kicked the whole thing off didn't get lifted until a month or two ago I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, max power said: Thanks for the answer. I'm glad to hear it helped. The numbers I've seen don't bear that out that it did a "lot" of good, but I'm happy to be wrong in at least your case. In my circles I didn't notice any difference. I know very few people, vaccinated or not, that got very very sick from covid. This winter, and even later last winter, I'd say the people I know are vaccinated tend to be getting sicker than the unvaccinated. But the unvaccinated I know tend to be younger anyways. Which I'm pretty sure has a far bigger effect on things than the vaccines ever did. Well yes, it's a known fact that the older population is more vulnerable when it comes to viruses - that's a big factor I also know unvaccinated people in their 20's who didn't get sick at all - in spite of it being in their household But that doesn't equate to the vaccine not being effective blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted November 25, 2022 Report Share Posted November 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: Were you repeatedly dropped on your head as an infant? Or you were just born this stupid? Hilarious. Did you watch the little clip yet with all the various government officials talking about how you won't get covid if you have the vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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