SpeedFlex27 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, 17to85 said: YOU JUST VOTED FOR THEM! You can't claim to be against them when you are on here talking up the UCP. They embrace those assholes and anyone who voted for them endorsed it. So STFU with the moral high ground. You vote for parties that support those people you are an enabler and as bad as they are. Shove it up your ass. I can vote anyway I want without your approval. Matter of fact, I don't give a **** what you think. Edited April 17, 2019 by SpeedFlex27 blue_gold_84, AtlanticRiderFan and Wanna-B-Fanboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 The Rebel was granted media access to the UCP victory party. That should tell you about the company they keep. blue_gold_84 and Wideleft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 hours ago, pigseye said: Well I've been middle class for the past 35 years and have lived under all 3 forms of the major parties and can tell you unequivocally that I have more disposable income under a Cons government than the other two. Yeah, your anecdotal evidence is sure-fire proof of anything. - Nobody Ever voodoochylde and Wanna-B-Fanboy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Shove it up your ass. I can vote anyway I want without your approval. Matter of fact, I don't give a **** what you think. Oh yeah you can vote for who ever you want, but I am free to point out your hypocrisy. You say you hate the religious zealots in conservative parties yet just voted for the biggest wing nut party I have ever seen. Can't complain about them while being such a booster for a party full of them. AtlanticRiderFan, Wideleft, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 13 hours ago, 17to85 said: Oh yeah you can vote for who ever you want, but I am free to point out your hypocrisy. You say you hate the religious zealots in conservative parties yet just voted for the biggest wing nut party I have ever seen. Can't complain about them while being such a booster for a party full of them. In my opinion, a vote is more than a vote. It is where we set our "price" on various aspects of society vs self-interest. Albertans made a choice on whether their own self-interest was more important than human rights, the environment, education and health care not realizing that these things are also in their self-interest. The majority voted for a party that has no qualms about undermining democracy in their own party and has aligned with far right hate groups. Voting for the UPC was essentially making a personal choice and naming the price a person was willing to pay to ignore these disturbing factors. Manitobans will soon name their price. Is a 1% pst cut really the price someone would pay to support a government that takes back $25 a month from the poorest in our society after the government just spent $173,000 trumpeting the tax cut? In my mind, that's a moral failure and beyond the price I am willing to pay. blue_gold_84, kelownabomberfan, Mark F and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 17 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: Yeah, your anecdotal evidence is sure-fire proof of anything. - Nobody Ever Goodbye, ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TrueBlue4ever Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 On 2019-04-17 at 12:57 PM, pigseye said: Well I've been middle class for the past 35 years and have lived under all 3 forms of the major parties and can tell you unequivocally that I have more disposable income under a Cons government than the other two. It's you who are actually confused so let me explain. The liberals give the rich and the corporations the same tax cuts that the Cons do and they are the ones who off load it onto the middle class because they won't cut spending. The NDP just tax and tax and tax and don't care who or what you are and still can't balance a budget because they want to give anyone who applies a government union job. So for the middle class, there is only one choice that will leave you with more disposable income in your pocket. Just curious, if you don't mind sharing, what is your annual salary (before taxes)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted April 21, 2019 Report Share Posted April 21, 2019 As strange it may sound to some - the Manitoba NDP under Doer / Selinger did actually cut $ 1 billion in taxes, mostly income tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 2019-04-18 at 9:55 AM, pigseye said: Goodbye, ignore. Finally. Good riddance to you and your garbage posts. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted April 22, 2019 Report Share Posted April 22, 2019 On 2019-04-21 at 12:29 PM, Mark H. said: As strange it may sound to some - the Manitoba NDP under Doer / Selinger did actually cut $ 1 billion in taxes, mostly income tax. and they also ran a balanced budget for most of Doer's time as Premier. people "believe" what they want to, and ignore facts. NDP means out of control spending, Conservative = fiscal responsibility. no need to check the facts. Conservative party Harper-led governments ran a string of six straight deficits between 2008-09 and 2013-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Mark F said: Conservative party Harper-led governments ran a string of six straight deficits between 2008-09 and 2013-14. Shhhh - that was justified and not his fault...😇😀 blue_gold_84 and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Mark F said: and they also ran a balanced budget for most of Doer's time as Premier. people "believe" what they want to, and ignore facts. NDP means out of control spending, Conservative = fiscal responsibility. no need to check the facts. Conservative party Harper-led governments ran a string of six straight deficits between 2008-09 and 2013-14. **** Harper. For JT to be as shamelessly obstructive as Harper- he will have to wait until there is motion to investigate his obstruction- then as the bill is moving through system- Prorogue Parliament and make it go away. Edited April 23, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy Mark F and Wideleft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate007 Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 2019-04-21 at 12:29 PM, Mark H. said: As strange it may sound to some - the Manitoba NDP under Doer / Selinger did actually cut $ 1 billion in taxes, mostly income tax. Did those cuts offset the increased and expanded PST? They also froze the basic personal exemption for years, which is effectively a tax hike on low-income folks. Not defending the current gov, just pointing out that they all have flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted April 23, 2019 Report Share Posted April 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, nate007 said: Did those cuts offset the increased and expanded PST? They also froze the basic personal exemption for years, which is effectively a tax hike on low-income folks. Not defending the current gov, just pointing out that they all have flaws. Absolutely - they froze the basic personal exemption, which made no sense at all. Gouge low income folks to generate pennies for the government. A far as I know, a point on the PST is pocket change compared to the other cuts that were made. It is definitely pocket change compared to the increase in transfer payments the Palister government has received from Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) Ontario Con's cutting education, but hey - tailgate parties and buck a beer (which failed). #BREAKING: @osstf says “Near North District School Board, headquartered in the riding of Finance Minister @VictorFedeli, will be issuing redundancy notices to 121 of the approximately 240 high school teachers employed by the board.” #ONpoli https://t.co/rQGd4gk41P — Travis Dhanraj (@Travisdhanraj) April 23, 2019 Edited April 24, 2019 by Wideleft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Wideleft said: Ontario Con's cutting education, but hey - tailgate parties and buck a beer (which failed). #BREAKING: @osstf says “Near North District School Board, headquartered in the riding of Finance Minister @VictorFedeli, will be issuing redundancy notices to 121 of the approximately 240 high school teachers employed by the board.” #ONpoli https://t.co/rQGd4gk41P — Travis Dhanraj (@Travisdhanraj) April 23, 2019 Wait.... are they cutting more than 50% of current teachers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Wait.... are they cutting more than 50% of current teachers? In the Near North School District, it would appear so. Edited April 24, 2019 by Wideleft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 52 minutes ago, Wideleft said: In the Near North School District, it would appear so. not surprised at the move- it's on brand. Surprised at the percentage though- that is kind of insane. 40 students per classroom acceptable nowadays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 PEI Election Results PC 12 / Green 8 / Lib 6 Guess 2 and 3 not teaming up for BC style takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 Somewhat political with Bowman and Councillors involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, Goalie said: Somewhat political with Bowman and Councillors involved How were they involved- which other councilors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: How were they involved- which other councilors? Not in the actual scam... Just in tweeting out responses to it without fact checking. Marty Morantz was one... Basically the Jewish ones really. Edited April 24, 2019 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: not surprised at the move- it's on brand. Surprised at the percentage though- that is kind of insane. 40 students per classroom acceptable nowadays? When you average everything out and include teacher librarians, resource teachers, principals, counsellors et. al. you have approx. 13 - 14 students per teacher in Manitoba. However, there are many Highschool classes with 30+ students. Teaching highschool has had a stigma attached to it for decades - we are seen as having far easier jobs than the other positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted April 24, 2019 Report Share Posted April 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mark H. said: When you average everything out and include teacher librarians, resource teachers, principals, counsellors et. al. you have approx. 13 - 14 students per teacher in Manitoba. However, there are many Highschool classes with 30+ students. Teaching highschool has had a stigma attached to it for decades - we are seen as having far easier jobs than the other positions. Yeah- that is bullshit, teaching is hard work at any level. Every tier has its own set of challenges. Wideleft and Mark H. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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