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FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 hours ago, JCon said: Enstrom is far less valuable now to VGK. I dont think anything changes. If VGK say "hey Toby we want to send you to Pittsburgh at the trade deadline" I bet that NMC just went buh-bye. Sure the NMC exists but you can still ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, JCon said: I just looked it up, for curiosity sake. 1.63 in 2016/17 1.44 in 2015/16 I was citing TSN's Scott Cullen for that number. Actually he said 1.94/60 over the past 4 seasons, so both of our numbers may be right. But Atomic's point about sample size is fair game. Not trying to personally justify it, just trying to offer a possible rationale. I hope he is the one taken over Enstrom (he is more replaceable than a left shot defenceman). Edited June 20, 2017 by TrueBlue4ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Floyd Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Was really hoping Chevy was in on a deal with Vegas for a goalie or a young D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 On 1290 yesterday they said if Toby goes to Vegas his nmc is nullified. If he stays in Winnipeg then it stays in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Brandon said: On 1290 yesterday they said if Toby goes to Vegas his nmc is nullified. If he stays in Winnipeg then it stays in place. They are wrong. It goes where ever he goes. 1290 say lots of stupid things that arent true. A quick check of the rules will show you it follows him. Edited June 21, 2017 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Goalie said: They are wrong. It goes where ever he goes. 1290 say lots of stupid things that arent true. A quick check of the rules will show you it follows him. I don't think it was "1290" saying it. I think it was a hockey person who called in. But there is certainly enough confusion. Even crazier for Toby to waive if he'd be subject to wherever Vegas wants to send him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Goalie Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Lets just... If you already have a nmc and u waive to be traded... Nmc follows you. If you are like tyler myers where u have a long contract but the nmc doesnt kick in until a certain age and u are traded b4.. The team getting you has the option to not pick up the nmc. Like the jets did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: I don't think it was "1290" saying it. I think it was a hockey person who called in. But there is certainly enough confusion. Even crazier for Toby to waive if he'd be subject to wherever Vegas wants to send him. His NMC follows him regardless but it really makes no sense to pick him cuz he could easily say i only want to play in Winnipeg. He also made it clear he doesn't want to go to Vegas. They wont pick him. Cuz no sane person starting a franchise would pick a guy who doesn't want to be there. The media are saying they just might because bottom line they dont follow the jets and in terms of headlines and click bait.. Toby enstrom is more known than Marko Dano. Edited June 21, 2017 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 It doesn't follow you regardless. The receiving team has to agree to accept it (under normal circumstances). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) It wasn't Hustler who said it.... It was definitely a guest on the show. Edited June 21, 2017 by Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said: It doesn't follow you regardless. The receiving team has to agree to accept it (under normal circumstances). Yes it does. He goes to vegas. If vegas wants to trade him they have to ask him to waive it again. He could easily say no. If he was 25 or 26... Vegas could not pick it up but because enstrom is 32... His NMC follows him... Like it did with Phaneuf actually when he was traded to Ottawa from Toronto. Edited June 21, 2017 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Goalie said: Yes it does. He goes to vegas. If vegas wants to trade him they have to ask him to waive it again. He could easily say no. If he was 25 or 26... Vegas could not pick it up but because enstrom is 32... His NMC follows him... Like it did with Phaneuf actually when he was traded to Ottawa from Toronto. Can you sight a source? I'm not saying your wrong but there has been other information to indicate that the receiving team must agree. The reason we don't hear about that is because if they don't agree the player being asked to waive would decline. Obviously it may be different under expansion but I believe you're incorrect about the routine circumstances of NWC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 The Bobfather sure has better middle of the night tweets than POTUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 14 hours ago, Floyd said: Was really hoping Chevy was in on a deal with Vegas for a goalie or a young D Who says he's not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Okay, heres the tweet storm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 So we only get part of the picture tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 30 minutes ago, Rich said: So we only get part of the picture tonight. I wonder if the players get to know and if so, how quick it leaks. Imagine being a player revealed as selected by Vegas...and then tomorrow morning you're told youve been traded somewhere else. Assuming tonight goes off without a hitch, kudos the the NHL. This is all very exciting. The fact there are 8-12 trades completed and we dont know what they are...all to be announced tonight. AND more to be announced tomorrow and no doubt between Thurs and the draft, even more? Very exciting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 This one I'm not sure I get from Vegas' side. They must think they can do better than Dumba & Scandella on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimmy Pop said: This one I'm not sure I get from Vegas' side. They must think they can do better than Dumba & Scandella on D. Dumba, Scandella, Vantanen, Manson. Ain't got time for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 McPhee said they have taken a lot of D-men and will be making other deals. Which makes me think Toby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 If Chevy was busting the phones, we would have heard it by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Floyd said: If Chevy was busting the phones, we would have heard it by now... The Jets are secretive at the best of times, let alone when the NHL has demanded MORE secrecy and other than speculation and innuendo, everyone is maintaining radio silence. Which is pretty cool actually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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