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2 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Don't know who or how yet, but he'll slither is way out of this with someone's help.

Until we physically see this man see significant jail time and pay hefty fines, why on earth would any sane person have any confidence that justice will prevail in how historically this has gone since the moment he was born into this world? 

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1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Don't know who or how yet, but he'll slither is way out of this with someone's help.

Until we physically see this man see significant jail time and pay hefty fines, why on earth would any sane person have any confidence that justice will prevail in how historically this has gone since the moment he was born into this world? 

Two things to give you hope:

1) He has lost a ton in court already, but because it has been civil claims he has bought his way to out of court settlements. So he has paid lots in quasi-fines, just has avoided a formal judgment. And it surely has contributed to his 6 bankruptcies. Now it is criminal probes he can’t buy his way out of, so hopefully his record of losing continues but with different consequences

2) His opponent this time is government at the State and Federal levels. They have unlimited funds to go after him if they want, so he can’t buy them off like most of  his lawsuits end up. 

Honeatly, as much as there is talk of “accountability” for past transgressions, this really is about keeping him from office again, so they need to be certain, and like any criminal organization, you attack it from the low levels and work your way up. Still a bunch of lower guys to bury first and get to flip. 

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beginning of downward slide

 

today is 59 years since Kennedy asassination. 

 

"President Trump vowed last year to release all the long-secret files related to the JFK assassination, but the administration announced Thursday that some documents will remain redacted until October 2021 for national security reasons.

In a White House memo, Trump said that the nation’s intelligence community persuaded him to keep some parts of documents secret because their exposure could harm “identifiable national security, law enforcement, and foreign affairs concerns.”

"persuaded him" 😂

 

This is the only known time since his birth, that Trump did what he was told. 

 

lol. the sixty year old concerns. 

"We can not not let the ghost of Nikita Khruschev know the truth! "

 

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1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Two things to give you hope:

1) He has lost a ton in court already, but because it has been civil claims he has bought his way to out of court settlements. So he has paid lots in quasi-fines, just has avoided a formal judgment. And it surely has contributed to his 6 bankruptcies. Now it is criminal probes he can’t buy his way out of, so hopefully his record of losing continues but with different consequences

2) His opponent this time is government at the State and Federal levels. They have unlimited funds to go after him if they want, so he can’t buy them off like most of  his lawsuits end up. 

Honeatly, as much as there is talk of “accountability” for past transgressions, this really is about keeping him from office again, so they need to be certain, and like any criminal organization, you attack it from the low levels and work your way up. Still a bunch of lower guys to bury first and get to flip. 

I get everything you say in a normal world. This is not normal.  Normal and effective ways of how things work don’t apply to him for a variety of reasons, one major one being the reluctance of the highest levels of Justice to see Trump as any other private citizen who needs to be held accountable swiftly and justly. It’s a farce. But thanks for the pep talk.

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7 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Another day another mass shooting, oh yeah almost forgot thought and prayers everyone

Arm more good guys (teachers, security guards, private citizens etc) with guns! It's not the fault of gun owning law abiding citizens! No restrictions on firearms, it's the illegally purchased ones that are the problem! 2nd Amendment rights was our forefathers declaration! Guns don't kill people, mentally ill people do! Lock all entrances into buildings! Law and Order! Stop open borders! And as you mentioned, thoughts and prayers to the victims.

ffs

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1 hour ago, HardCoreBlue said:

From the Business Insider:

'Bill Barr says Trump will 'burn the whole house down' and destroy the GOP if he doesn't win the 2024 nomination.'

Add Bill Barr to the list of who can go f*ck themselves and go back to the rock you crawled out from under.

Barr has been consistent at least. He isn't a Trump boot licker and never was, he just feels the president should be above the law. 

But hey if Trump does destroy the gop then barr can pat himself on the back for the role he played in keeping Trump safe and enabling this. 

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3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Barr has been consistent at least. He isn't a Trump boot licker and never was, he just feels the president should be above the law. 

But hey if Trump does destroy the gop then barr can pat himself on the back for the role he played in keeping Trump safe and enabling this. 

No he’s the same f*ck face who went on CNN with Wolf Blitzer and heavily implied problems with the election that supported Trumps big lie.

Barr can go f*ck off and himself while he tries to grift off the grifters.

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Every Repiublican Senator enabled Trump twice, Bill Barr smeared the Muller Report, Kevin McCarthy is a bootlicker of the highest magnitude, Conway lied everyday of tv, his daughter and Jared grifted every day they were in the WH, Mnuchin gave Trump cover with the IRS, Miller advise him on how to be the perfect racist, and there is many many more. All these people should be reminded of what they have done and none should be allowed to backtrack on anything they did

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5 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

From the Business Insider:

'Bill Barr says Trump will 'burn the whole house down' and destroy the GOP if he doesn't win the 2024 nomination.'

Add Bill Barr to the list of who can go f*ck themselves and go back to the rock you crawled out from under.

Would love to see this happen, and it likely will.

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Excerpt taken from a piece by Brandon Gage:

"They're dragging their feet. They don't want to give us this information so we're asking the courts to force them to give us information," Lake said. "This is not our main case. When our main case drops, they will hear it. Trust me. They will hear it. And they better think really hard before Ducey and Hobbs sign their John Hancock to that certification. They better think long and hard about what they know about what happened in this election. Because when we drop our lawsuit, they will hear it. We have whistleblowers coming forward and at least one smoking gun in it. And we will not stand here and make a mockery of our sacred vote."

This is Kari Lake he's quoting. Her and people like her of influence who continue to make these claims and threats should be immediately brought before a committee (or whatever) and instructed they provide concrete evidence right here and now and if they can't, or they deflect or they stall, they should be met with immediate severe punitive damages payable now. Jail time would be nice as well.

Yea I know. And then I woke up.

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Kanye ‘Ye’ West Reveals Trump ‘Screamed’ at Him in Bombshell 2024 Campaign Video

Kanye ‘Ye’ West continued on his path of complete self-destruction Thursday night, releasing a string of videos including a two-minute campaign promo dissing Donald Trump. The rapper, 45, announced last week that he plans to run for president again in 2024.

“The thing that Trump was most perturbed about [is] me asking him to be my vice president,” Kanye said in one of the videos published on his recently-unlocked Twitter account on Thanksgiving night. “I think that was, like, lower on the list of things that caught him off guard. It was the fact that I walked in with intelligence,” he says.

Even after the video was posted, Kanye’s adviser took aim at Trump in no uncertain terms. Of the videos and Ye’s relationship with Trump at present, Milo Yiannopoulos told The Daily Beast: “As a connoisseur and an intimate of several mercurial billionaires, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to find them laughing about it in the near future. Assuming Mr. Trump isn’t too wounded, of course.”

Though, he continued: “Trumpworld is in crisis tonight.”

“In my personal view, the former president has only himself to blame. This is an overdue reckoning. President Trump has neglected and betrayed everyone who loved him most, from the cancelled personalities who helped him into office to his abused supporters on January 6. He might like to reflect on whether he could have done more to acknowledge and support his most loyal fans over the years,” the far-right provocateur said. “Habitual, callous ingratitude has a way of catching up with you.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kanye-ye-west-releases-bombshell-campaign-video-for-2024-presidential-election-talks-trump-kim-kardashian?ref=home

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Trump’s Holocaust Denier Dinner Creates A Massive Problem For Republicans as Donald Trump confirmed that he had dinner with a Holocaust-denying white supremacist in what is the latest major headache for the GOP.

 

Former President Donald Trump hosted white nationalist and antisemite Nick Fuentes at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach on Tuesday night, according to multiple people familiar with the event.

“This past week, Kanye West called me to have dinner at Mar-a-Lago,” he wrote. “Shortly thereafter, he unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends, whom I knew nothing about. We had dinner on Tuesday evening with many members present on the back patio. The dinner was quick and uneventful. They then left for the airport.”

However eventful, the dinner reflects a remarkable moment in an extremely early 2024 campaign cycle: the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination breaking bread with a man who frequently posts racist content and Holocaust revisionism, brought there by a rapper who is launching his own presidential campaign under the shadow of his own antisemitic remarks.

Trump spent Thanksgiving week hanging out with Holocaust-denying white nationalists and being sued for rape.

Even if the mountain of potential criminal cases is set aside because Republican primary voters don’t care about them, the idea that the 2024 Republican nominee could be both found to have raped a woman and is palling around with Holocaust deniers could wreck entire Republican ballots across the country.

Every candidate that appears on a ballot with Trump will be asked about Fuentes and Holocaust denial.

A smaller version of this effect was visible in the Pennsylvania midterm where having Doug Mastriano at the top of the ballot led to Republicans getting their clocks cleaned in race after race. John Fetterman successfully Mastriano to Mehmet Oz. The Republican candidate for governor’s name became shorthand with Pennsylvania voters for radical extremism.

Trump has a wide open path to the Republican nomination because the party is on track to repeat the mistakes of 2016 by running a bloated field of dozens of candidates that will allow the former president to win primaries and caucuses with 30% of the vote.

If Trump is the nominee in 2024, Republicans will be badly beaten again, and the dinner with Holocaust deniers is a taste of what is coming for the GOP in 2024.

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/11/25/trump-white-nationalist-nick-fuentes.html

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1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Trump knows the reputation of everyone he meets as long so as they fellate him they can have dinner with him no matter who they are or what they do.

But Trump is deluded enough to think that he can both court the racist extremist view and attract the relatively sane by vaguely denying complicity. Bizarre, to say the least.

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Reports: Trump Praised Extremist Nick Fuentes At Mar-A-Lago Dinner

Donald Trump this week praised his dinner guest Nick Fuentes, one of the most prominent young right-wing extremists in the nation, according to a report Friday in The New York Times.

The former president reportedly announced that he liked Fuentes after hearing him describe himself as a member of Trump’s base who liked when Trump went off the cuff during speeches. (A source told Axios that Trump said he “really” liked Fuentes.)

“He gets me,” Trump said of Fuentes, the Times and Axios both reported.

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https://apnews.com/article/arizona-deadline-2022-midterms-certification-d6a1ea4020c26313a3124931c14b79fb

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PHOENIX (AP) — Republican officials in a rural Arizona county refused on Monday to certify the 2022 election, despite no evidence of anything wrong with the count, amid pressure from prominent Republicans to reject results showing Democrats winning top races.

State election officials have said they will sue Cochise County if the board of supervisors misses Monday’s deadline to approve the official tally of votes, known as the canvass. The two Republican county supervisors delayed the canvass vote until hearing once more about concerns over the certification of ballot tabulators, though election officials have repeatedly said the equipment is properly approved.

Democratic election attorney Marc Elias pledged on Twitter to sue the county. Democratic Secretary of State Katie Hobbs’s office has previously said it would sue if the county misses the deadline.

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