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50 minutes ago, bustamente said:

So Trump is going to leave in the morning of the 20th so he doesn't have to ask Biden for the use of Air Force One, is anyone really surprised. Pence on the other hand phone Vice President elect Harris for the first time and offered her congratulations and offer the help with the transition 

Pence is going to assume the role of defender of Constitutionalism, man of God, and bi-partisan good guy....hoping the stink eventually wears off. 

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13 minutes ago, do or die said:

Pence is going to assume the role of defender of Constitutionalism, man of God, and bi-partisan good guy....hoping the stink eventually wears off. 

A lot of the enablers will attempt to do this but only because the attempted coup was unsuccessful. What a world we live in.

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27 minutes ago, do or die said:

Pence is going to assume the role of defender of Constitutionalism, man of God, and bi-partisan good guy....hoping the stink eventually wears off. 

Pence has presidential aspirations(fantasies) but to do that he will have to avoid criticizing Trump, trump's abysmal record, or the racists who supported Trump. He will call for unity but will stickhandle around criticizing by name the Qanon/Proud Boys/Oathkeepers etc etc. Gonna be a tough tightrope act.

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8 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Pence has presidential aspirations(fantasies) but to do that he will have to avoid criticizing Trump, trump's abysmal record, or the racists who supported Trump. He will call for unity but will stickhandle around criticizing by name the Qanon/Proud Boys/Oathkeepers etc etc. Gonna be a tough tightrope act.

Will be an interesting contrast to the Ted Cruz approach....

4 minutes ago, Mark F said:

the various facial grimaces, scowls  and "smiles" that trump uses are idiotic.

 

...and those hands...

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2 hours ago, Tracker said:

As a footnote to the above post, not only would Trump have been unfazed by rioters hanging Pence, I believe he would have welcomed it for two reasons:  firstly, it would have confirmed to the psychotic Trump that his followers loved him so much they were willing to kill for him,( a tremendous ego boost, adding to his grandiose self-image) and secondly, it would have provided him the excuse he desperately wants to declare a national state of emergency (nevermind that he fomented it) and then he would have a pretext to declare martial law. This would have allowed him (in theory) to extend his reign indefinitely. I find it bizarre to say the least that there is an unwritten rule that no president can be charged with a criminal offence, no matter how egregious while in office, nor will he be charged after leaving office for crimes committed while president. The convention is that it would be bad for national unity, so even if the president commits traitorous acts, he will walk free.

You forgot, that in the case of replacing the VP, that honor goes to.... the President. You know, he would have installed Ivanka as VP to pardon his ass.

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Feeling Betrayed, Far-Right Extremists Have A New Message For Trump: 'Get Out Of Our Way'
As Trump backs down from his “Stop the Steal” hoax, the supporters he radicalized are vowing to carry on the fight without him.


For months, President Donald Trump’s message to his supporters was clear: The election was being stolen from him, and they needed to fight to take it back.

So on Jan. 6, during a Trump-promoted rally to “Stop the Steal,” thousands laid siege to the U.S. Capitol in a stunning attempt to do just that. The fallout of their failed insurrection, which resulted in five deaths, was swift: Trump was deplatformed from nearly every major social network and, on Wednesday, impeached for a historic second time.

When he emerged on camera a short while later, tail tucked between his legs, to condemn the rioters whom he himself had incited, and to call for a peaceful transfer of power to President-elect Joe Biden, his base felt betrayed.

“So he basically just sold out the patriots who got rounded up for him,” one person wrote in a 15,000-member pro-Trump Telegram group. “Just wow.”

In online havens for MAGA extremists, including Gab, CloutHub, MeWe, Telegram and far-right message boards such as 8kun, the tone toward Trump is shifting. HuffPost reviewed thousands of messages across these platforms and found that a growing minority of the president’s once-devout backers are now denouncing him and rejecting his recent pleas for peace. Some have called for his arrest or execution, labeling him a “traitor” and a “coward.” Alarmingly, many of those who are irate about Biden’s supposed electoral theft are still plotting to forcibly prevent him from taking office — with or without Trump’s help.

Feeling Betrayed, Far-Right Extremists Have A New Message For Trump: 'Get Out Of Our Way' | HuffPost Canada (huffingtonpost.ca)

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The NRA - lobbying arm of gun manufacturers, fund raising wing of the GOP, and a money laundering operation for Russia, also a means of getting rich for scumbags like Wayne LaPierre and his other executive swindlers.

From the lawsuit against the NRA this Summer

"It was shown the organization leaders were responsible for "financial misconduct in the millions of dollars that contributed to a loss of more than $64 million over a three-year period... top NRA executives misused charitable funds for personal gain, awarded contracts to friends and family members, and provided contracts to former employees to ensure loyalty."

They are simply fleeing from New York Attorney General Letitia James.....and retrenching in Texas......so the grifting can continue

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10 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Feeling Betrayed, Far-Right Extremists Have A New Message For Trump: 'Get Out Of Our Way'
As Trump backs down from his “Stop the Steal” hoax, the supporters he radicalized are vowing to carry on the fight without him.


For months, President Donald Trump’s message to his supporters was clear: The election was being stolen from him, and they needed to fight to take it back.

So on Jan. 6, during a Trump-promoted rally to “Stop the Steal,” thousands laid siege to the U.S. Capitol in a stunning attempt to do just that. The fallout of their failed insurrection, which resulted in five deaths, was swift: Trump was deplatformed from nearly every major social network and, on Wednesday, impeached for a historic second time.

When he emerged on camera a short while later, tail tucked between his legs, to condemn the rioters whom he himself had incited, and to call for a peaceful transfer of power to President-elect Joe Biden, his base felt betrayed.

“So he basically just sold out the patriots who got rounded up for him,” one person wrote in a 15,000-member pro-Trump Telegram group. “Just wow.”

In online havens for MAGA extremists, including Gab, CloutHub, MeWe, Telegram and far-right message boards such as 8kun, the tone toward Trump is shifting. HuffPost reviewed thousands of messages across these platforms and found that a growing minority of the president’s once-devout backers are now denouncing him and rejecting his recent pleas for peace. Some have called for his arrest or execution, labeling him a “traitor” and a “coward.” Alarmingly, many of those who are irate about Biden’s supposed electoral theft are still plotting to forcibly prevent him from taking office — with or without Trump’s help.

Feeling Betrayed, Far-Right Extremists Have A New Message For Trump: 'Get Out Of Our Way' | HuffPost Canada (huffingtonpost.ca)

So..... acknowledging, legitimizing, promoting and approving the lies, conspiracy theories and other propaganda from fascists anarchists, and racists.........does have consequences.    Who knew? 

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1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Finally. This might be very good for the USA. Maybe the next time an elementary gets shot up and children killed... something will ******* change.

 

nope. makes no difference. just getting rid of debt. the rest of it wont change.

iheart radio went under a few years ago, emerged sans debt, same crap product.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Some have called for his arrest or execution,

they love them some executions dont they? 

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Photo raises alarms about a Trump ally still pushing election conspiracies at the White House

My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell arrived at the White House on Friday for an apparent meeting with President Donald Trump, raising alarms after a press photographer shared a close-up shot of the visitor's notes.

While the image wasn't entirely clear — the paper was folded in half, and some of the text was blurry due to the distance at which the photo was taken — it strongly indicated that Lindell planned to bring up with Trump widely debunked conspiracy fictions about the 2020 election. The notes even suggested he would push for personnel changes, the invocation of the Insurrection Act, and the possible declaration of martial law.

This troubling meeting occurred, of course, under the dark shadow of the previous week's disaster at the U.S. Capitol, where supporters riled up by the president violently overtook the building in order to stop the affirmation of President-elect Joe Biden's Electoral College win. Those events led the House of Representatives to call for Trump's immediate removal and to impeach him on the charge of inciting and insurrection. Vice President Mike Pence and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, however, both made clear that neither would use their respective powers to facilitate Trump's removal before his official last day in office, Jan. 20.

The fact that Trump appears to be meeting with someone still pursuing the idea that the election result was illegitimate and perhaps could still be overturned shows the danger of leaving him in office, even if he has released statements that seem to acknowledge Biden will be president by next week.

Jabin Botsford, a staff photographer with the Washington Post, shared the photo in question on Twitter:


Here's what appears to be visible on the document:

The title includes the words "...taken immediately to save the... the Constitution"
A suggestion for someone to be appointed "NOW as Acting National Security ..."
A reference to "getting the evidence of all the... the election and information regarding..."
A reference to "[In]surrection Act now as a result of the assault on the... [m]artial law if necessary upon the first hint of any..."
A direct reference to "Sidney Powell," a lawyer who has promoted some of the wildest conspiracy theories about the election
The suggestion to "Move Kash Patel to CIA Acting" (Patel is a close Trump ally who has been on the periphery of several of his schemes)
A reference to "Foreign Interference in the election. Trigger... powers. Make clear this is China/Iran ... domestic [a]ctors.
Altogether, the visible information looks like a continuation of the election disinformation and false conspiracy theories that have been repeatedly debunked and that flopped in court. It also seems that Lindell has suggestions for how Trump should respond to this information using his remaining days as president, though the outline of the scheme is unclear. How seriously Lindell is taking these ideas is also not certain, though he has been a fervent and erratic defender of the president, and Trump's reception to the ideas is unknown.
In light of everything that has happened, however, the meeting is highly alarming.

"It won't happen, of course, but still a gentle reminder that the president is still completely batshit insane, heavily invested in his own conspiracy theories, and is going to spend his remaining hours listening to sycophants tell him how to burn various institutions down," said national security commentator Matt Tait on Twitter. "Protip for impeachment managers is to print this out in really big and point at it with a telescopic pointer to remind senators that *one week* after the failed Capitol attack the president was having meetings with sycophants to talk about the 'insurrection act' and 'marshal law.'"

(Sure as spit sounds like Trump was being encouraged/directed on how to try to  overthrow the government again. Unless I miss my guess, counselling someone to commit sedition is a crime- the FBI otta talk to this idiot.)

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The troubling thing about this apparently credible report is that, due to Trump's psychotic state of mind, and his resident personality, he is just apt to take another last, desperate, insane stab at hanging onto power by declaring a state of emergency and then invoking martial law. DO NOT put it past him.

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34 minutes ago, Tracker said:

The troubling thing about this apparently credible report is that, due to Trump's psychotic state of mind, and his resident personality, he is just apt to take another last, desperate, insane stab at hanging onto power by declaring a state of emergency and then invoking martial law. DO NOT put it past him.

I don't think anyone is listening to him atm and pretty sure that are mechanisms to keep him in check for the next 5 days. They again I could be wrong

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1 hour ago, bustamente said:

I don't think anyone is listening to him atm and pretty sure that are mechanisms to keep him in check for the next 5 days. They again I could be wrong

Would you have bet that the insurrection that boiled up on the 6th would have happened the way it did?

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hard to get the stench out🤮

give the cleaning staff hazmat suits 

After three COVID-19 breakouts within the White House in recent months, the federal government is sparing no expense to clean and disinfect the building before President-elect Biden moves in Jan. 20.

According to government contracts reviewed by ABC News, more than $200,000 has been spent for increased White House janitorial and housekeeping work, including $127,249 on "2021 Inaugural Cleaning" and another $44,038 on "Inaugural carpet cleaning." There was $29,523 spent for "Inaugural curtains cleaning."

While the White House is always deep-cleaned during the transition between presidents, that work is usually handled by White House staff, including butlers, ushers and maintenance crews. Contracting out additional cleaning services is unprecedented in modern times, according to Kate Brower Andersen, presidential historian and former White House reporter.

"We've never seen this before," Brower Andersen said on ABC News' "Powerhouse Politics" podcast. "The Government Services Administration has said they're going to do this very deep cleaning -- cleaning every surface of the 55,000 square foot mansion. There's always been a deep clean between administrations, but we've never seen anything like this."

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Would you have bet that the insurrection that boiled up on the 6th would have happened the way it did?

I would not, but others much smarter than me saw what was being planned in terms of having a rally on the 6th and summoning all patriots and what was said at the rally confirmed what was going to happen.

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