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On 2020-01-03 at 1:22 PM, itchy said:

You'd like to think so, but i doubt it will change things. Hard to believe one minute killed this guy's presidential aspirations only 16 years ago. Standards have changed.

Oh Howard Dean... I feel sorry for how Dave Chapelle Savaged you...

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Mr Bring The Troops Home, End the Wars is triggering a war to distract from his criminal activity.  I hope Congress and the American people treat this as it is, another criminal act by a shameless coward.  I feel awful for US troops, some of whom I know (and they tell me Trump has zero respect as Commander-in-Chief), being used in this manner.

Im not sure the US will rally behind him as a war time President the way he thinks.  Lets hope not.

These guys don't like it either:

 

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On 2020-01-02 at 4:12 PM, JCon said:

If there's anyone who knows about legal disbursements, it's probably Trump. The guy has had to pay so much to settle lawsuits, bankruptcies, divorces, judgements against him, etc.

I doubt he knows what a disbursement is since he's being sued by a bunch of law firms for not paying his bills.

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1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

OMG!!!! THE DEEP STATE! BEWARE THE DEEP STATE! THE DEEP STATE IS TRYING TO OUST TRUMP!!!

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE LIES OF THE DEEP STATE. ALL THE "INTELLIGENCE" IS A LIE MEANT TO OUST THE DULY ELECTED.... blah blah blah...

 

Unless of course....

 

FFS... please tell me people are not that stupid....

Tons of Trump "boosters" are either condemning it or questioning it too.

Hannity is a ridiculously bad example. He's a media personality who would support any Republican so long as they are in power.

And it's also ironic some of the same people and media who put their faith in deep state CIA, FBI, DOJ (in hopes they'd make a legal case to avenge Trump win ) are now doubting deep state intelligence that asserts IranIan attack was imminent and assassination was necessary.

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1 hour ago, Zontar said:

Tons of Trump "boosters" are either condemning it or questioning it too.

Hannity is a ridiculously bad example. He's a media personality who would support any Republican so long as they are in power.

And it's also ironic some of the same people and media who put their faith in deep state CIA, FBI, DOJ (in hopes they'd make a legal case to avenge Trump win ) are now doubting deep state intelligence that asserts IranIan attack was imminent and assassination was necessary.

Haha wrong.  The irony is the trump chumps who have spent years burying the intelligence agencies are now using them to say see see we had to act.  Can’t have it both ways. 
 

no one is pretending this guy wasn’t bad and the world isn’t better off without him.  The reasonable people are rightly convinced this is ill conceived without a plan other than to distract from trumps crimes and because president bone spurs believes war guarantees him a second term.  

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Trumps foreign policy seems to be to yell as loud as possible, make bizarre threats and turn everyone against the US.  He continues to tweet incredible things about how big the US military is and threatening Iran.  He’s an absolute joke. And you get the real sense he’s going to do something really really bad before it’s all over.  
 

If he appears to be losing the election or impeachment he’s going to do something....bad.  Very bad.  

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Then:  Trump shows "weakness" when he "abandoned" the Kurds. Withdraws from Syria. Shows weakness when he " appeases" and negotiates with NK, China.

Now: Killing was out of porportion , doesnt understand nuance. Trump is an out of control maniac who's going to get us all killed.

Pick one, "progressives."

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48 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Imagine not knowing the difference.  I can’t Imagine anyone still being a cheerleader for a racist, criminal, serial sexual abuser.  
 

 

Who's cheeleading him apart from fake conservatives, neocons , israel- firsters, military - industry shiils? ( who used to say they'd never support him on anything)

"It was the right thing to do but it was Trump so it's also a bad thing to do"  is just as  stupid a take as the people above.

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Killing the Iranian General does nothing to protect Americans, he has people in place that will carry out any plans that may or may not of been in place, Trump sees his polls numbers dropping he has been impeached and pressure on the Senate will make proceedings not go as smoothly as his enablers think it will.

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20 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Who's cheeleading him apart from fake conservatives, neocons , israel- firsters, military - industry shiils? ( who used to say they'd never support him on anything)

"It was the right thing to do but it was Trump so it's also a bad thing to do"  is just as  stupid a take as the people above.

 Well seeing critical but accurate remarks about trump but then trying to change the narrative to some sort of criticism of remarks progressives as if being progressive is a bad thing seems...strange.  
 

Also you completely made up the quote in your post and literally no “progressive” is making that argument.  You might want to debate false narratives and fake news but it’s irrelevant to the actual discussion.

Are we now at a place where trumps own advisors that advised against the strike are considered “progressives”?  Lol. Soon it will be “if you don’t believe in nuking Iran and suspending elections you’re a do nothing progressive”.  

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26 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Killing the Iranian General does nothing to protect Americans, he has people in place that will carry out any plans that may or may not of been in place, Trump sees his polls numbers dropping he has been impeached and pressure on the Senate will make proceedings not go as smoothly as his enablers think it will.

Oh for sure.  And Trump is a simpleton.  We know he accuses everyone of things he does or wants to do.  His remarks about Obama are a perfect window into trumps thinking.  He doesn’t want a measured response because he doesn’t think it will trigger the war he badly wants nor would it take down coverage of impeachment which gets worse for trump everyday.   
 

I think trump sees this very very simply as his racist base is all about fake demonstrations of power and strength (hence his behaviour at so many rallies) and that you can’t replace a war time president.   He’s mad he was caught and polls are turning so he wants to punch someone in the face and get cheered.   We’ve all known fake tough guys and trump is text book.  
 

And what he really wants is Iran to do something they would be considered an act of war so trump can take America to war and claim it was self defence.   He badly wants a 9/11 though he’d probably prefer it be on foreign soil so no one can say he didn’t keep them safe.  He’s a mad man.  Worse he’s a mad man that is also very very stupid and prone to ignoring the smart people around him.  
 

Remember when trump talked tough on NK and then was going to use his charm and negotiating skills to bring them under control?  Yeah well he’s gonna to be as successful in Iran as he was in NK.  He’s playing right into their hands.   He got worked like a hand puppet. 

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2 hours ago, Zontar said:

Then:  Trump shows "weakness" when he "abandoned" the Kurds. Withdraws from Syria. Shows weakness when he " appeases" and negotiates with NK, China.

Now: Killing was out of porportion , doesnt understand nuance. Trump is an out of control maniac who's going to get us all killed.

Pick one, "progressives."

It's your ridiculous, ignorant, nonsensical comments like these in this thread that make me so, so glad the Ti-Cats got embarrassed in the Grey Cup.

Do you put any actual thought whatsoever into what you post in this sub-forum? Or are your antics here just some feeble attempt to troll threads?

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Trump has gone full troll. 

we know the GOP will look past his crimes and his conspiring with foreign governments against the US.  Will they continue to let him snub congress and pretend to be a cowboy diplomat when he’s an ignorant joke who’s becoming the laughing stock of the world?   Aren’t they embarrassed? 

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3 hours ago, Zontar said:

Then:  Trump shows "weakness" when he "abandoned" the Kurds. Withdraws from Syria. Shows weakness when he " appeases" and negotiates with NK, China.

Now: Killing was out of porportion , doesnt understand nuance. Trump is an out of control maniac who's going to get us all killed.

Pick one, "progressives."

This just in, foreign policy is nuanced and complicated not black and white.

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5 hours ago, Zontar said:

 

"It was the right thing to do but it was Trump so it's also a bad thing to do"  

Said no one ever.

It was the wrong thing to do. Period. No matter who ordered the strike. 

Put the show on the other foot... imagine Iran using Drones to bomb Mike Pompeo in a foreign country... that is wrong...   

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28 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Said no one ever.

It was the wrong thing to do. Period. No matter who ordered the strike. 

Put the show on the other foot... imagine Iran using Drones to bomb Mike Pompeo in a foreign country... that is wrong...   

Going to be interesting to see which top Dem candidate try an be the anti war candidate and at the same time not protest US actions to loudly.

Progressive Tulsi Gabbard dared criticize US foreign policy apparatus long before all this... fellow Dem opponents and MSM tried to bury her for it

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1 hour ago, Zontar said:

Going to be interesting to see which top Dem candidate try an be the anti war candidate and at the same time not protest US actions to loudly.

Progressive Tulsi Gabbard dared criticize US foreign policy apparatus long before all this... fellow Dem opponents and MSM tried to bury her for it

BERNIE! WARREN!

Those two will be against and out spoken. 

Agreed though... it will be interesting to see... mayor Pete is already not answering the question directly... par for the course...

 

Tulsi Gabbard, never liked her. Not sure what it was... maybe it was just her single plank of foreign policy... and not much else. Respect, but not really my kind of candidate 

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