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36 minutes ago, Mark F said:

one right wing company owns most of the media,  (another of Bill Clinton's many achievements) you get this:

 

OMG- it is insidious what this group is doing, I first heard of this on LWTWJO

 

Take the time to watch- very funny, very informative.

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13 minutes ago, Zontar said:

From what I gather the sexual /power dynamic of a superior over a subordinate in the workplace is a big part of it no matter if it was consensual. Pretty much sounds like this case

I totally agree with you, you are right. I think there is more to it than that though- there is the double standard on both ends of the spectrum- the hypocrisy of the left as well as the that of the right and treating her solely as a victim or the right solely referring to her as a villain... the reality of the situation is that she is both. 

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1 hour ago, Mark F said:

one right wing company owns most of the media,  (another of Bill Clinton's many achievements) you get this:

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sinclair-media-company-fake-news-trump-1.4609024


 

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Employees could have been required to pay back wages had they resigned in protest over 'fake news' script


 

 

 

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But that caused Bloomberg News to wonder if anyone had refused to read the script and, in doing so, it unearthed an employment clause that few outside Sinclair Group were familiar with.

"For Sinclair employees, it can be very expensive to leave," Bloomberg reporter Jordyn Holman told The Investigators this week.

'Liquidated damages' clause

She discovered many Sinclair employees both on- and off-air are bound by contracts with a "liquidated damages" clause.

"It says if you leave before your contract is over, the company is able to charge you 40 per cent of your annual compensation," Holman said.

 

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Secret testimonies?  The "secret testimonies" that include GOP members?

Whistleblower who's account has been confirmed by multiple witnesses including the Chief of Staff and the "transcript" released by the WH?

"Rules changed"...rules created by the GOP?

You have to be in serious denial to be pro-Trump at this point.

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1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Ok, fair enough. The Ukraine thing? The Multiple counts of Obstruction? Emoluments? none of that?

Accusations come from the same people who said there's proof he colluded with Russia .From the same people who said he praises neo Nazis. From the same people who said he should be impeached for criticising anthem kneelers and being mean to OAC. On and on...

People have every reason not to believe. 

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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

So you are ok with a president doing all the things trump has done? Why is that?

All politicians are corrupt, system is corrupt. Equally corrupt Democrats trying to steal back power for powers sake and pretending its justice is appalling.

"I'm angry we lost an election we were promised to win and I hate Trump " are not virtues.

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2 minutes ago, Zontar said:

All politicians are corrupt, system is corrupt. Equally corrupt Democrats trying to steal back power for powers sake and pretending its justice is appalling.

"I'm angry we lost an election we were promised to win and I hate Trump " are not virtues.

So then, how do you hold a president accountable if he breaks the law or commits impeachable offences? 

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Forget the Democrats for a second here. I am a Canadian, I have no horse in the race, hell I am not even a lefty, I vote conservative options more then not, but trump has done and admitted to things that make impeachment a slam dunk if not for the party over country  Republican party. How can anyone support that? 

Just trying to understand the mindset.

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1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So then, how do you hold a president accountable if he breaks the law or commits impeachable offences? 

System is place for that. It's supposed to be transparent and bi partisan like Pelosi said. Since it obviously isn't there should zero credibility given to this.

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7 minutes ago, Zontar said:

System is place for that. It's supposed to be transparent and bi partisan like Pelosi said. Since it obviously isn't there should zero credibility given to this.

But, that is what the vote was about. To have a transparent plan in place to deal with the impeachment investigation.

The bi-partisan question is a red-herring. That the Repubs voted against it is a stain on them, not the process.

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8 minutes ago, Zontar said:

System is place for that. It's supposed to be transparent and bi partisan like Pelosi said. Since it obviously isn't there should zero credibility given to this.

This is simply not true.  The investigative committee’s have both Dems and GOP on them.  Both sides get to question witnesses.  It’s how it’s always done in the early stages.  
 

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3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Forget the Democrats for a second here. I am a Canadian, I have no horse in the race, hell I am not even a lefty, I vote conservative options more then not, but trump has done and admitted to things that make impeachment a slam dunk if not for the party over country  Republican party. How can anyone support that? 

Just trying to understand the mindset.

My mindset is socalists and progressives destroy everything they touch and make society and the world worse. They cannot be trusted. Plot , scheme, steal to get power. See Mueller and impeachment.

The longer they are kept from the reins of power the better. Since socialists are plotting for more power in the US, the most influential country on earth,  I have an interest.

Even if I was an  American Id have no attachment to Republicans as they are , by and large, a party of globalist, open borders job killers and war mongers.

No attachment to Trump other than he promised to address the above, with modest success. So my defense of Trump, if you want to call it that, is through the "lens" of what I listed.

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2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

This is simply not true.  The investigative committee’s have both Dems and GOP on them.  Both sides get to question witnesses.  It’s how it’s always done in the early stages.  
 

So when the doors are locked, literally, to scrutiny how is anyone supposed to trust it as genuine.

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26 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Just trying to understand the mindset.

lol this person who was complaining about "pinko commie rags" on some other thread now claiming he /she is a socialist. What a load of hogwash.

It's nothing to do with left, or right. And there is no mystery to Trump's appeal. There are no "socialists" that support Trump, more hogwash.

Trump is an stupid, addled, autocratic, rule by erratic decree, openly racist bigot, who appeals to and is supported by white supremacists. He has had a Swastika pin wearing Hungarian nazi,  Gorka, (who is also on Fox tv) in his office.

David Duke, southern racist bigot, supports Trump.

this is not an accident. 4chan likes Trump.

And that is his core appeal. All the other stuff, the myriad of details, and "no fair" whining and nitpicking,  explaining his actions, what he actually meant, he was kidding, blah blah, is window dressing.

He and his supporters are racist autocrats, that would gladly go door to door arresting people they don't like, and "locking them up":

they do not care about democracy in the slightest.

And if you think of yourself as not a bigot, but you like Trump, you're full of it......you are a racist and a bigot.

period. full stop.

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9 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

They weren’t. They followed the rules. The committees are bipartisan.   Not every Tom, **** & Harry is allowed into a SCIF whenever they want.  

trump supporter worrying about honesty, is laughable."We can lie and cheat all day long every day, but you have to be honest, or I won't trust you"😂

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