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1 minute ago, do or die said:

Rudy getting out front....

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/420312-giuliani-mueller-accused-manafort-of-lying-about-trump

...because he knows things are about to get much worse.......

This would mean that Mueller has proof Trump knew about that meeting.  because he tore up the agreement with Manafort and he has to proof to a judge Manafort was lying.  

Someone pointed out that Comey could be the proof but Mueller knows Comey is a lousy witness cause he's a liar so in all likelyhood, Mueller has more than just a "he said" that Trump knew about it.  Most likely multiple witnesses.  Although you wonder...Comey liked to record his phone calls...

Almost certainly Trump lied about this on his written answers to Mueller.  I've seen people call that a felony (lying to FBI)...Im not aware that written answers are the same as verbal but I guess it makes sense.  

And the fact this is all happening after Trump submitted those answers?  Could be coincidence, could be telling.

What would be interesting is if after all this, they have no concrete evidence that Trump was directly involved in "collusion" but have him dead to rights on obstruction because he tried to lie and cover it up.  That gets him impeached.  And it probably gets him jailed.

And remember, Don Jr lied to Congress about this issue, right?  If he has Trump lying, he has Don Jr lying.  Now who flips on who?  

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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

Rudy Giuliani getting out in front of something is akin to him getting in front of a speeding bus. Guy makes things worse when he talks. Can see why Trump likes him.

It's almost like an episode of Seinfeld. But, so much horribly worse cause it's real. 

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48 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump probably hasn't figured out that he is individual 1, because his name is Donald J Trump.

Trump has been able to get away with outrageous and illegal conduct all of his life due to his being born with a silver spoon in his mouth and his father using money to smooth over things for Don. Trump grew up with the attitude that he was beyond the law and carried that into his presidency. However, in what will probably be a shock to Trump, the betting in Washington is that Don Junior will be indicted next week. Trump is showing signs of coming unglued already and has been snarling at his whole staff this week. Next week ought to look like a political China Syndrome.

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Felonious behavior right up and down the line, with this administration.  

Mueller is using these court filings to put out just the framework and methodology (like the Russian indictments) of some of the myriad of illegal acts.   Every time he does that, it becomes more difficult politically for the Republicans to pull any suppression acts, on his final report.  They are now smelling what Robert Mueller is cooking.....and will be getting the full taste, in short order.

There are a lot of shaky knees up on the Hill......and there should be.

 

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They just had a trump guy on CNN arguing that the manafort filing likely implicates the Clintons. Lol 

so here is a serious question.  Trump is now implicated on court filings with committing so felonies (campaign finance violations) with the intent of influencing the election outcome. 

The DOJ policy is a sitting president cannot be indicted. But there is no law. It’s never been tested. 

If he were anyone else they’d indict him right now. 

Question: should they?

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/420427-kushner-advised-saudi-crown-prince-after-khashoggi-killing-report

So you have Trump suggesting it was "rogue" killers.....almost a full week, before any statement from the Kingdom.  Meanwhile, you have his son-in law, assisting the Prince with their spin....

Paid consultants couldn't do any better
Uh, wait a minute....

 

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