The Unknown Poster Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 49 minutes ago, pigseye said: Not going to defend what Trump is doing, he's a heartless SOB but this history lesson is a good read for all https://splinternews.com/here-are-some-of-the-democrats-who-paved-the-way-for-th-1826963453 Actually nothing in that article indicates the Dems paved the way for this at all. It is, was and always will be a noose around the necks of Trump and his evil racist regime that made the conscious choice to enact this policy for political reasons. Its a pretty transparent effort to hang something...anything...on the Dems. This isnt a debate about which side deported more people or let more people in. Its just about holding terrified children hostage as political currency. No "but..." should ever follow condemnation of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Trump confirms days of lies by him and his regime, reverses course on separating children. Gee, I thought it was the Dems who could only stop this? https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/immigration-border-children-separation/h_736e0a322bf643474f887e8077d1454b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Do I have it wrong or do the Republicans and their supporters have some of the most disgusting, vile, unfeeling people in the world, I cant believe that the general public even Republican voters can back the actions and words of these people. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: Trump confirms days of lies by him and his regime, reverses course on separating children. Gee, I thought it was the Dems who could only stop this? https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/immigration-border-children-separation/h_736e0a322bf643474f887e8077d1454b So he caved to public pressure after all, maybe he isn't such a dictator after all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 minute ago, bustamente said: Do I have it wrong or do the Republicans and their supporters have some of the most disgusting, vile, unfeeling people in the world, I cant believe that the general public even Republican voters can back the actions and words of these people. Most voters don't vote with their heart, they vote with their wallet. The corporate ladder is full of trampled corpses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, pigseye said: So he caved to public pressure after all, maybe he isn't such a dictator after all? If he admits he lied and was wrong. But he wont. And he tested how far he could push his racist policies. It will be easier next time. I assume he caved to backlash from his party which I suppose is something. The fact he relented to pressure and not to the fact the policy was horrific is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Suspect that a lot of Senators and Congressmen and women, who won't speak out publicly.....had plenty to say about it, behind closed doors. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 Trump wants praise and pats on the back for reversing a policy for something that should never of been implemented in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 20, 2018 Report Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, do or die said: Suspect that a lot of Senators and Congressmen and women, who won't speak out publicly.....had plenty to say about it, behind closed doors. This is totally what it was, he was risking losing the backing of a lot of republican congressmen and senators who aren't soulless monsters and he figured he better not choose this as the hill to die on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 The EO is a sham. Children already separated from their parents will not be reunited with them as they are now considered to be “unaccompanied minors’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 People know that this zero policy rule was implemented by Republican Jeff Sessions in April of this year right? The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Goalie said: People know that this zero policy rule was implemented by Republican Jeff Sessions in April of this year right? but her emails! Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Jacquie said: Children already separated from their parents will not be reunited with them as they are now considered to be “unaccompanied minors’. This is disturbing. Someone must force them to reveal where these children are, and force their return to their families. If Trump, Sessions, Nielsen have lost these children, ............ don't know what to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, Mark F said: Someone must force them to reveal where these children are, and force their return to their families. The saddest part of this all is that it might be impossible to re-unite some of these children with their parents. Do we really expect that they kept good enough documentation to match people up? or do they know where their parents are? It's a god damned travesty all because so much of American is afraid of people with a darker skin colour. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mark F said: This is disturbing. Someone must force them to reveal where these children are, and force their return to their families. If Trump, Sessions, Nielsen have lost these children, ............ don't know what to say. I think there will be some court challenges. Michael Avanatti is representing some of these people. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Goalie said: People know that this zero policy rule was implemented by Republican Jeff Sessions in April of this year right? People know that Sessions was in such a hurry to deal with this issue,....that forced separations, were taking place 2 months BEFORE the rule was implemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Whatever the reason, Aventatti is doing very good things. We know what would happen to him in the Trump and the US right's favourite strongman Putin's domain. raise a glass to Avenatti's continuing good health. Edited June 21, 2018 by Mark F bustamente and The Unknown Poster 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Avenatti is an grand stander and attention hog. That said, most of his predictions have come to pass...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Who cares, it's the results that count. He's very effective, at exposing the goings on in the stench filled rooms of Trump. Edited June 21, 2018 by Mark F The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, do or die said: Avenatti is an grand stander and attention hog. That said, most of his predictions have come to pass...... I dont know if I'd say that. Of course, he's an attorney and his job is to generate billable hours. He's very good at stating his case and while there is in-direct benefit from high profile cases, he's got to be doing a lot of work pro bono. Getting past the idea that all lawyers are in it for their own benefit, he's on the right side of the issues and working hard for his clients. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I was referring to style not motive. But, bottom line....he certainly has run rings around Trump's lawyers....and seems to have reserves of dry powder. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Mark F said: Whatever the reason, Aventatti is doing very good things. We know what would happen to him in the Trump and the US right's favourite strongman Putin's domain. raise a glass to Avenatti's continuing good health. If I was him I wouldn't stand on a balcony or open window in a high rise. Wanna-B-Fanboy and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 It's funny cause it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, bustamente said: If I was him I wouldn't stand on a balcony or open window in a high rise. I would think that Cohen would be in the most danger. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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