The Unknown Poster
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42 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
I'm trying to get along with everyone here regardless of their beliefs. I don't want to make this personal so, I'm not here to argue. Just to make my point as to why I'm disheartened & changed my mind. If people can understand my position then I'll make an effort to understand there's. We're all friends here.
I find your remarks impassioned and I understand. I have no issue with how you express yourself. It’s welcomed, as far as I’m concerned. My earlier remark wasn’t directed towards you at all. I enjoy your posts and I enjoy discussions with you. There’s only a few people they can’t handle it and try to drag things into the mud. And some of them aren’t here anymore. So....
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15 minutes ago, Floyd said:
TUP is actually referencing how many people he has been forced to re-educate in terms of his version of covid information... as in you are one of the moles he whacked - to talk some sense into them
Not my info. Just threads by journalists and articles in mainstream news. Sorry that doesn’t fit your 20/20 hindsight revisionism. But at this point clinging to a failed argument just looks like you’re desperate to parrot trump. Sadly.
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34 minutes ago, Floyd said:
22 states increasing and 20 states declining - whoa stop the presses
Sorry, you weren’t entirely wrong. Just mostly wrong.
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11 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
Thank you for this, its well put.
I agree no government or police force here would move to shut them down, nor do I think it would have been wise. I believe you stated it would have caused more issues (correct me if that wasn't you) and I agree.
I did. Others probably did as well. I think in rare circumstances there are issues you risk your health for. The people using hindsight to try and say nothing should have closed are making an argument that doesn’t fit that description. We shall see if protests spike covid. We would assume they would, without having the data. As the thread I posted showing increase in areas that “re-opened”.
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Just now, Floyd said:
It’s a great point except there are two issues
- vacation destinations, most beaches and casinos are not actually open (especially in this fashion so it’s comparing apples to oranges)
- the question is not whether the protests should be allowed or not, its whether this creates a second covid wave
There is actually no one arguing that the cops should or could have shut the protests down
Missed the news about Vegas. Missed the video of parties in Osarks. Missed pictures of packed beaches. Whooose.
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2 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Haha I’m just messing with you TUP - for J5’s reading pleasure... you’re right - covid is on the rise and death is sure to follow - at least in Florida where they didn’t have a good cause..,
im going to go spend my stock market dollars with my Trump buddies now because I only care about money and not people... trying to remember what poster insulted me like that at the start of covid - his name slips my mind...
At least you're consistent.
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1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:
People have lost jobs and businesses. People have been unable to see dying or seriously ill loved ones who are in hospitals, people haven't been allowed to attend their place of worship, people haven't given up many things that made up their day to day lives and they did it for the greater good, to help save lives and flatten the curve because this is what the government, public health officials and the media preached and heck for the mot part did it willingly. Then other people and many of the same government officials hold rallies for what is without question a good cause but at the same time, people weren't observing social distancing not were all wearing masks and they're told that this was ok because it was for good? So Noeller, The Unknown Poster, 17to85, you don't see why people are upset or disillusioned?
I think you're drawing a false equivalency. And again, if the government would prefer large gatherings not take place (as I am sure they do), then would you prefer the move to shut them down? I guarantee no government agency or police force (here) would look at the pros and cons and decide thats the smart move.
Ive been firm that I believe large gatherings are not wise. But just as firm that these protests are a force of nature borne out of hundreds of years of anger and frustration, triggered, finally by events both small & large. Its organic and its historic. So do I feel empathy for people hurt by the restrictions? Yes. My family has been hurt by the restrictions. I feel worse for people of colour and understand more their need and desire to do this.
And quite frankly, if you disagree with them your issue isnt with them. How many cities around North America are open? Beaches packed. Vacation destinations open. Casinos etc. Are they more deserving of gatherings than the protests?
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14 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Haha - thanks I’m okay...
it was my mistake to think that you jump onto someone else’s post, run with it, make it your cause, then deflect and finally turtle if anyone questions it because it really wasn’t your original idea
i got that strange notion from watching years of your posts but I will reflect and try to see what I am missing - thanks for caring about humans - you’re an inspiration TUP
Okay, you're just being an ******* now. I even re-posted the info for you. I appreciate that you're a big fan and have followed me intently on here. But honestly, you're not getting a signed 8X10 so if you cant handle a mature discussion just dont reply. I will choose to reply as I see fit. They say when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Well, on this subject, you're in as deep as can go.
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Just now, Floyd said:
It’s a pretty easy reread to see who started ‘insults’ first... I just pointed out your style of posting - it’s not an insult
Time for some self-reflection, Floyd. I wont even ask for an apology. Just knock it off. Be better.
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5 minutes ago, Floyd said:
An observation is not an attack - an accurate observation at that.
The same way that citing official statistics is not a slight towards people who have died of covid.
Do a quick search of your own posts with the keyword ‘nah’... or better yet post a link to the data you are using
You've repeatedly over the past few days insulted or attacked me. You're a child. I dont mind a discussion but you're completely immature and like I said, embarrassing. So do yourself a favour and ignore me. I will continue to post as I see fit. But if you cant handle mature discussion, just dont engage. That's free advice, no need to pay me.
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Just now, Tracker said:
Once again, one lie is used to explain another. Trump went down for an inspection. Well, no he didn't. Given Trump's personalty, I would bet he left a trail of urine all the way down.
The best take away from this is Trump threw Barr under the bus as the architect of the attack on the protesters and Barr responded by making Trump a liar about the bunker. You love to see it.
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He doesn’t want the truth. He wants lies that make him feel better.
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31 minutes ago, Floyd said:
I can't find the spike in cases you talk about - I'm looking at the offical government data, its all we have whether or not we accept their reporting regimes
The data indicates that there is no spike in deaths or cases - in fact cases seem to be levelling off in Minnesota
I'm open to understanding your stance - but please provide backup data
Nah, I posted it. I cant recall when. If I stumble across it Ill re post but nothing really will alter your stance anyway so its not overly important either way.
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8 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Fine the organizers. The ones that grab a bullhorn & start speaking. The ones that love to talk to the media taking all kinds of credit for organizing a demonstration. Fine them heavily. Like I said, I'm extremely disenchanted as I did my part for months & I feel like I've been suckered in. I really don't feel like doing it anymore. Anyone who has been following my posts here know my feeling on police brutality & racism. That the cops needs to be reigned in & changes made. I defended the lockdown back in March & up to 2 weeks ago but now I've had enough. End this bullshit & totally open the economy.
We're very open here in Manitoba. Work, restaurants, hair salons. So im not sure where you think we're still under a lockdown. We can disagree on this but no one was stopping that protest. Period. And trying, either directly through police action or indirectly through fining would do nothing but inflame the issue. What activity is it you want to do that you feel you cant but are upset protesters can protest?
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1 minute ago, johnzo said:
just want to point out the the shakedowns in Ferguson MO were not about speed trap robots and red light cameras, they were all about armed cops hitting people up in public for BS fines.
red light cameras, we got a real problem with jackwagons running stale reds in Seattle and I'm all for ticketing those guys. that's so damn dangerous.
For sure I was just using a Winnipeg example of cops being tax collectors to justify their bloat. Traffic enforcement is important but it has to be done fairly. I think the police should actually do it themselves by targeting problem areas not having unmarked cars looking for people going a bit fast when it poses no danger. And I have no issue with red light cameras but we know here, its artificially unfair to generate revenue which should be illegal.
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