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4 hours ago, Mr Dee said:
I’m not clear as to what Mr. Miller hoped to accomplish with this comment? I would think that it is given to move forward on a positive note and work towards formulating a plan for 2021.
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1 hour ago, Brandon said:
As said before... I trust Irving and Miller over a guy like Madani who is desperately trying to have anything stick to the wall.
Honestly..does it really matter? You would certainly expect the portrayal of a united front, all parties in agreement and working together at this point. What is more important is that that is in fact the case and the process of moving forward towards 2021 begins now. Let’s all turn the page....history is just that.
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17 minutes ago, bryan35 said:
Think this will hurt the CFL in the years to come. If they do come back next year.
They better use this time wisely to get everyone united....players...PA and CFL office and owners.
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30 minutes ago, bustamente said:
How different will the CFL look when it comes back next year, will all teams be back, what players will retire, and will the fans be back in the stadiums.
The CFL needs to see this as an opportunity and use this time to formulate a better approach in working with the PA as more of a partnership and not as an adversarial war.
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1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:
There is only one place to assign blame, if that’s the direction we want to go....it’s the Federal Government. They could have made it happen, but chose to ignore the valuable impact this league made all across Canada.
Shameful.
Tough call....no money piss off football fans....give the money and piss off the non sports fans...tough to win that one. I like to think if there had of been an agreement worked out between the PA and the CFL in July perhaps there would have been a better chance of a loan. Perhaps too much indecision.
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3 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:
I was alluding to the government relinquishing its' funds, actually.
How do you relinquish something that has never been there?
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2 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:
As is typical of governments in power, Trudeau will use CFL as leverage and only let the funds flow starting in 2023, just in time for the next federal election...
Last time I checked Trudeau wasn’t responsible for negotiating an agreement between the CFL and the CFLPA.
- Bigblue204 and blue_gold_84
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On 2020-08-12 at 6:02 PM, Brandon said:
The amount of positive reviews of players since Miller has taken over about being treated professionally and respected is night and day better. I think he would be the perfect guy to work with the PA.
I guess that is a credit to Walters , O’Shea and the coaching staff....as well as the Equipment and Medical Staff. The individuals who are in constant daily contact with the players. Thanks to them for all they have done.
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17 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:
Speed, your argument in defence of Miller seems to be a bit of a moving target, so let's get back to your original point that people disagree with.
You think Miller will be less hostile than Ambrosie in player negotiations. The counter-point is that he won't be because his personality is one of "my way or the highway". You then shift and say if he was hard to work for, people would have quit on him. That misses the point. In CBA negotiations, the players and their association are not working for him, they are working with him at best, or negotiating against him if spun in a more negative way. You then agree that he is a hard ass and control freak, which is what people were saying in the first place, but your argument shifts from "he'd be a better commish because he is less confrontational" to "his confrontational style worked for the Bombers because they won", which is another topic altogether. So if you think that style will work, OK, but that was not your point. You just want another reason to slag on Ambrosie IMO and use Miller as a better alternative (he may be) but your reasoning that he will be more conciliatory in negotiations seems way off if you want to make that the key point of your argument that he will be better.
At some point the CFL and the PA must learn to work as a partnership in co operation. This adversarial relationship has been brought to a head by Covid. It was a smouldering fire that has become a full blown inferno. Season or not there has to be a lesson learned by both sides moving forward.
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Here’s hoping that all those that advocate that because the business is football the ends justify the means have a happy, healthy and secure work environment. Have a lengthy and profitable career....lol.
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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Please provide the names of people who quit the Blue Bombers because of Miller.... Noeller? blue_gold84? BigBlue204? JCon? can you guys tell me? I mean, it's obvious I need to learn who they are.
The bigger issue is the list of those who he fired !
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12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
I'm not a mind reader. I have no idea what he means. He can put a laughing icon up after my comments but I don't care. If he wants to talk in circles or like he knows some kind of inside joke then he can have at 'er.
Get a dictionary and look up quit and look up fired...no secret hidden meaning. Sadly I know of too many people who were fired under his watch. Ya ya I know your response you bring in your own people. PS no inside joke...I just know victims....not laughing about it either.
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I think Big Blue was referring to those who had been fired....lol.
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52 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:
Exactly.
That’s why discussion is necessary from fans, players, GMs, etc to get the ball rolling.
It certainly doesn’t look like we will be having a season, and right now, that might be best.
The CFL and CFLPA can open up new dialogue over the coming months, and maybe, just maybe, the Gov. will be there to assist in the future.Whatever happens, most everything that is discussed should be made available to the fans, the heart of the League, even if it takes new involvement at the League office.
The CFL and CFLPA most develop a better working relationship-partnership. This latest example of what appears to be an adversarial relationship is simply another example of how unproductive it continues to be.
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1 hour ago, Mr Dee said:
Ah, but that’s where you have to have CFL size balls and stand firm. I mean, why do we have to sell out?
We don’t.
We've learned. The window of which you speak would have to be handled differently.
Why can’t we dictate terms of what we want...or no deal?We develop, they pay. These one year contracts we have now give the NFL the same means to an end and they don’t pay.
We can change that.Not sure given the circumstances that you are bargaining from any kind of position of strength.
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The last time the CFL sold their soul to the NFL it got into the NFL window BS and the NFL simply cherry picking players. It wasn’t out of kindness or being a benevolent. Big Brother....it was pure business. No thanks.
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23 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Same negative garbage.
Actually stating a published date....but that seems to be a problem for you.
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And more importantly how about the mess MLB is dealing with....lol
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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:
As always, the cflpa will fold faster than superman on laundry day. They just don't have as much bargaining power as they would like to have. There are probably thousands of guys out there who would love the opportunity to play professional football and unlike the NFL you don't have the best of the best to make it mean anything.
Thousands of Americans perhaps....not thousands of Canadians....well is this quantity or quality? It will be interesting to follow the government money back and forth. The government apparently wants an agreement between the CFL and the PA before they agree and apparently the PA says they need assurance about the government money before they agree. Other leagues seem to work as more of a partnership between the two factions , why can’t the CFL and the PA?
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36 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:Farhan not sure who your source is but with MANY issues unresolved The PA and league are NOT close to a deal. Did your source tell you the League failed to meet with PA last Friday? I won’t speak on what football ops are being directed to do but WE havnt seen it.
It would be refreshing if media...all media not just sports media got back to reporting facts and stopped speculating and circulating rumours. It clearly serves no positive purpose on any front.
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3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
With 220,000 people there aren't the same career opportunities in Regina as there are in Winnipeg. Most CFL players don't want to play in Regina. Maybe for 5 months they will but not year round.
Tell LaBatte that when he didn’t resign in Winnipeg and went to Regina. There have been side deals all over the place Montreal was notorious for them. Wetenhal’s insurance company paid money that the CFL auditor couldn’t track because it was an outside private company. The term is work arounds
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I wonder how Vegas feels about that and how a bet is dealt with on a forfeited game?