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ShyGuy

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  1. This is a rough, rough take. I guess she should have just quit her job 2 years ago because boys will be boys and she wouldnt be in this predicament. I've seen this constantly in management. Kick the can down the road because you are sure the woman is going to tough it out because she doesn't want to be seen as weak or just hope she eventually quits on her own and the problem goes away. There is no doubt in my mind had they extended her contract and changed her role subtlety to minimize her contact with Kelly she would have stuck through with it for 2024 as well, and if this same thing happened in that off season it would be "well why was it so bad now and not in 2022, or 2023, or 2024". This is a tale as old as time and has been happening in pretty much every male dominated industry and then people cry out "why isn't there more diversity in our workplace, why is there so few female applicants or why do they never last" and it's like no **** why. I've fired Software Developers before because they couldn't keep their comments about female co-workers to themselves and the workplace was better off for it.
  2. People who suggest someone might make an accusation like this just for attention blows my mind. To compare an acrimonious divorce to this, which would be very localized, to making an accusation against a very public figure isn't even like comparing two fruits together. As soon as this story broke it reminded me of the story that came out a number of years ago locally about a sexual harassment human rights issue https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2014/11/29/taking-a-stand-against-abuse Look at the abuse this poor woman received as a result of her complaint, and add 10 more years of people being terminally online and instead of a local board game store have it be a MOP QB and what do you think could be going on with her right now.
  3. To be honest there probably wasn't even a coverup. It sounds like she reported it to Murphy between Nov 6th (the private confrontation where she told Kelly not to speak to her about anything non-work related and he allegedly reacted... poorly) and Nov 10th (where she found out that he allegedly had indicated to someone that she was fortunate he hadn't physically harmed her). Their last game was Nov 11th and I can't imagine there was much activity for a S+C coach between then and when she didn't have her contract renewed on January 29th. He probably thought it was a problem he could just make go away with inaction. The Argos will probably spin it such that Murphy was a bad actor who didn't follow policies and will be disciplined accordingly and then some fuzzy PR work.
  4. I'm not sure if anyone in good faith is suggesting based entirely on the accusers testimony terminate or suspend anyone. But the need to wait for some sort of judgement from the courts to act is ridiculous. This allegedly happened in front of Argonauts players. Her supervisor allegedly changed her duties because of this. It was allegedly brought to the Assistant GM. These are not all wise-guys in the Mob. If her version of events are true according to the people who were there Kelly needs to go. If no-one is going to say nothing... that's an even bigger problem with the culture of that team. I'm not sure how a team saying we had credible allegations of harassment brought forth which through our internal investigation we determined to be an accurate accounting of the events that happened. Based on that we terminated the employee; would be damaging to the brand. I think people get too wrap up in 'legalities'. If their investigation finds that he has done wrong who cares what the courts say. Are the Argos going to trot him out on game day and be like "yeah we found that he sexually harassed his female coach, but the courts said it technically wasn't illegal, so here is he at QB1". Even if it costs a million dollars to make him go away, it is the moral thing to do.
  5. The contracts aren't guaranteed. They'd be out his signing bonus. His career wouldn't be over, some other team would be able to sign him if they wanted to take the PR hit or attempt to rehab his image. There is such a thing as a moral high ground if you believe in those kind of things. It would be the moral thing to terminate a sexual harasser despite being on the hook for his salary if the courts decided that.
  6. Why does it have to go to court? Both the CFL and the Argos will definitely have a harassment policy. The CFL Contracts may have a character clause. The courts are going to test: Is this a human rights offense? Was she wrongfully terminated? What if everything that is recorded in the lawsuit happened exactly as described BUT the courts find that Kelly's actions didn't rise to the level of infringing on her human rights and due to the nature of her rolling contract the Argos were within their rights to not renew it. Does Kelly just get a pat on the back and told not to do it again or should their be consequences to someone's shitty actions. If you go directly to her (former) supervisor and he confirms that this is exactly what happens, don't you have grounds to act without hearing the courts?
  7. Can you link to a report by the media that has spoken directly to her or her representatives? It sounds like this is reporters doing their jobs and finding out that a team has a lawsuit against them and reporting against that. This is her literally trying to climb that hill in court. Do you really think that there is a department in MLSE that is just cutting cheques to make it go away? What is more likely is the complaint ended up on that Neanderthal Murphy's desk and he didn't do anything with it and here we are.
  8. The only thing I remember Bighill commenting about was when people were suggesting that he shouldn't have been playing because he had coverage on the early 3rd quarter touchdown and he seemed to be throwing someone under the bus by insinuating that of course that wasn't his responsibility... but really isn't that the other team's job to scheme it such as it BECOMES his responsibility?
  9. Haha this is my mental image of someone saying they are exhausted for the day. Literally reading some fudd and having to stop because its just not worth interacting with.
  10. Where do you see the Accuser "airing it out in the press"? Has there been a single piece of media covering this that has spoken to her or her team? The Westhead article constantly cites the Lawsuit, not any specific person.
  11. This is not a new phenomenon https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/news-revisiting-troubling-sexual-assault-allegation-levied-nfl-hall-famer-peyton-manning
  12. Which backup QB is going to retire unexpectedly and free up cap space when Betts come back kicking off the next dynasty?
  13. One aspect to this is at least you are paying for his peak as a RB rather than the decline like his next contract will be
  14. We really going to put ANY blame on Brady for the current playoff run? Since he became starter there has been 3 instances of RBs running for more than 100 yards in the playoffs... Brady, Brady and Brady. In those 4 games Collaros threw for more than 200 yards once and has a TD/INT ratio of 1/3. Running Backs are interchangeable for the most part, but for Brady at least you are buying his prime instead of the decline. It's likely this contract is his one pay day and then as all RBs do he hits the cliff at 29 and will likely be cast aside. The drop off from an MOP Running Back to whatever you can find will likely be reasonably steep, and if you can't trust the passing offense in the playoffs where will that get you? The team is built so the window probably runs out after 2025. I think short term Brady probably is going to be more meaningful than Schoen, especially with Demski and Lawler on the roster. Of course I would like to have them both back.
  15. Does anyone in the world actually think Augustine has a chance to be RB1? As a first year starter, he would be the second oldest RB1 in all of professional football. That is legitimately insane.
  16. Stanley Bryant is making 'slightly less' than his 2023 salary which was reportedly $190k and will be 38 when the season starts. He's been in the league what... 14 years now? Oliveira is coming off pretty much an MOP season, making $115k in 2023. As a 26 year old running back, the nature of the game is likely he has this and one more decent contract left in his career. The drop off for Running Backs as they approach 30 is huge. Dude needs to get the bag.
  17. Where is a reasonable starting space for Brown? Calgary ahead of Maier? Saskatchewan ahead of Harris? Ottawa ahead of Crum if they don't bring back Masoli? Hamilton ahead of Bo? BC, Montreal, Winnipeg, Toronto and Edmonton presumably all locked in.
  18. Is Oliveira quietly putting together an MOP type season? With injuries and BC/Winnipeg running away from the West it looks like no QB will hit 5000 yards and you might not see someone throw for 4000 depending on Collaros' injury. At the halfway point, 703 Rushing yards and 274 Receiving Yards puts him on pace for almost 2000 yards from scrimmage. 1406 yards rushing would be the 4th most ever by a Canadian. Only on pace for 8 TDs which would probably need to come up a bit. He's been the focal point of a few 4th quarter, game sealing drives and is gaining a reputation as a back who is going to consistently eat clock for you in those situations. The bottom 4 teams for rushing yards against are MTL, CGY, HAM and EDM and wouldn't you know, that makes up 5 of the Bombers last 9 games.
  19. West Semi Final -- 11 of 21 for 193 yards and a TD West Final -- 17 of 25 for 267 yards and a TD Grey Cup -- 17 of 23 for 170 yards I think the argument that is being made here, and that the Bombers were a 3rd place team, Streveler was at least somewhat injured (and underwhelming as a non-gadget player) and the depth QB was Sean McGuire. If you don't pick up Collaros, maybe you grab another QB instead and not have to trot him out there, but McGuire with his one career start, 15-36 for 221 yards that includes 1 TD against 4 interceptions doesn't really inspire much confidence.
  20. Different situation in the NFL obviously because you can get a QB in the draft, but Peyton and Luck were never on the same roster. Manning messing up his neck had the Colts suck for Luck, and Peyton was released to join the Broncos. Manning managed to get Osweiler a fat contract as his backup, and when he retired he was succeeded by Trever Simian, Paxton Lynch (remember him?!?) and then Case Keenum over the next 3 years... so not exactly anyone to write home about. 2 success stories I can actually think about in the NFL are Rivers to Herbert, and Smith to Mahomes. The NFL is quite a different beast though, the quality of QBs sitting on the bench is obviously far higher.
  21. I dont think football coaches with a legitimate MVP quarterback stay up at night working about QB Depth. I always fondly remember someone asking the Colts OC why their Peyton's backups didn't get more reps, "Fellas, if 18 goes down we're ******, and we don't practice ******." Probably pretty similar to how everyone feels about Collaros.
  22. I was reading an article about the Ottawa game and it highlighted a real issue I see with how people deal with analytics vs 'the eye test'. Dude was complaining about how PFF was rating Crum so poorly compared to even say Collaros. You can do the right thing and have a bad outcome, and you can do the wrong thing and have a good outcome. I think with QBs this is a bit more obvious if there is a clear read progression. You can't really complain about a QB missing an open guy if he was the 4th or 5th read against a blitz. As a RB, there is only so much you can do if you run where you are supposed to and the hole slams shut, but if you mess up the hand off and end up having to spin around and bounce outside for 35 yards, that really isn't a super positive play 95% of the time.
  23. Geez I'm not sure entirely whats going on but the Bombers are trying singlehandedly to keep the league scoring average up. If my Math is correct, when the Bombers play there is an average of 74 points in the game. If the Bombers aren't playing it goes all the way down to 35.
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