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Zachs processing may or may notnbe slower but he was slower getting the ball away and took some hits he didn't have to. 
Guy was looking a bit gun shy with the OL taking  step back last season.

What's the point in getting personal about it? You can't prove my observations are invalid. This is a fan forum and I have an opinion about who gets the ball off quicker, Collaros or Brown. It is a valid opinion based on what my eyes are telling me. And you are welcome to disagree. If you did disagree I would respect your opinion rather than resort to an ad hominem argument. I guess we could run a stopwatch off game tape and test my observation. No, I have not played QB or coached at the pro level. I would describe myself as just a fan. Although I have lined up as a player in the CFL. In the backfield. And I know how to run a route. And that's all I'm gonna say. Since you asked.

Conjecture. For sure both Collaros and Brown have benefitted from Winnipeg's development of a solid Oline and a scheme that offered pretty dang good QB protection. But how Brown might fare elsewhere is irrelevant to the opinion that we should have kept him here. The size difference between the 2 QBs is also irrelevant. After all, Doug Flutie was 5'!0 180lbs - bigger does not equate to more success or durability. For sure Zach is a warrior who, as you say, has had to sit out for extended periods due to serious injuries. The fact that he has suffered so many injuries - especially hits to the head - underscores my basic concern about him. After all, Collaros missed games in 2015 and 2016 with the torn ACL - not clear he ever recovered from that 100%. In 2018 he was sidelined for several games due to a head injury and he did not play for most of 2019 due to head injury. We have a valiant QB who is 35 and needs to avoid hits at all costs as they could be career ending. To me, it appears that is taking him longer to process things out there post-snap. Brown definitely got the ball away quicker than Zach and was more accurate and threw with velocity. That's how it appeared. Plus Brown knew Buck's offence. That's why I'd have kept him. But we didn't. Glad we've got Strevy though. 

And when you have a son whose reputation and career options are torpedoed from a false allegation perhaps you'll understand why rushing to judgement can be ill advised. In that case, even when proven false, the damage is irreparable.

And when you have a son whose reputation and career options are torpedoed from a false allegation perhaps you'll understand why rushing to judgement can be ill advised. In that case, even when proven false, the damage is irreparable.

And when you have a son whose reputation and career options are torpedoed from a false allegation perhaps you'll understand why rushing to judgement can be ill advised. In that case, even when proven false, the damage is irreparable.

Excuse me, serious question: what victim? And who said that they ought to be shamed? This is a wrongful termination suit with a side of a sensationalized accusation to whip the press (and apparently internet forums) into a frenzy before evidence and judgement. And why would the accused be named and subjected to trial by press except for the purpose of shaming them into accepting a settlement (much as was done once before against the Argos)? 
This serves the accuser's legal strategy just fine, as was always the intent.
Give me a bit of credit for being a decent human please.
And your comment about the side of truth is just so offside here. And support what victim?
And this is why trial by media for a wrongful termination suit is ideal for the accuser.
Yahtzee.

Complainants are not entitled to a presumption of truth. 
The system is actually in place to allow for presumption of innocence and places a burden of proof on the accuser. I agree that naming the alleged victim can lead to pre-judgment and shaming, but naming a potential accused does the same thing (as some of the comments here have already demonstrated). 

I appreciate you folks keeping politics out of our football forum 😉

Wow, what a way to kick off the day! I'm absolutely pumped that Brady's sticking around! My health has been taking a major hit lately and I've been feeling at an all-time low, this news is like a touchdown for my spirit, I haven't felt this fired up since November

Mitchell is cooked though so it wasn't wrong to move on. 
Guess it depends on  whether or not you think brown is better than maier... which I do personally.  Was never impressed with maier. Too much throw short nonsense, didn't threaten a team with anything else. 
Ideally we can get brown back, but if he leaves and collaros continues to age (and let's not pretend that's not showing signs here) are we left with nothing but an aging star? 

In any playoff game, really.

Collaros hasn't shown up for a Grey Cup since 2019. Caught lightning in a bottle then.

2020 cup Collaros went 21/32 for 240, 2 TD, 2 INT. Got to OT in spite of him. If Steinhauer isn't a moron and doesn't concede that single Bombers lose.
The only difference was he showed up clutch in OT, and yes he deserves credit for that.

Garbage in the next 2 cups.

This is a get it done league, not barely show up when it actually counts leage. Personally I'm ready to move on

More like people are looking at this age and some underwhelming post season coupled with the fact that Dru Brown has developed so well and performed comparably to Collaros with the same team. It's a risk, but if you save money at the qb position and can get some assets for collaros and not see a big drop does it make you team better long term? 

For past couple regular seasons (let alone playoffs) ZC hasn't passed the eye test. Stats-wise, OK, fine. But he's been very inconsistent - are you going to get the good Zach or bad Zach? Downward trajectory especially noticeable when he came back after sitting out couple games with a neck injury Game 10 thanks to what should've been RP by Elks Kony Ealy. But even prior to that Zach was very hot/cold in my opinion. It looked like Buck might've adjusted the playbook after that - taking a more conservative game manager approach that doesn't exactly suit Collaros's style. But it also seemed Zach was taking longer than normal to process things. That could be why Dru Brown had such brilliant success in relief. Much quicker processing time, quicker release, high velocity throws. 

I believe I have seen more happy feet, critical INTs  and indecision this past season than in previous ones, and that concerns me.

Twitter (similar to Facebook)  will promote and show content based on the users browsing history and search criteria and online behaviours. 
My experience with Twitter is actually really good it's probably the best social media application for showing quality content over  non stop ads or brain dead (tik tok)  content.    I see nothing but links to pc parts deals ,  bbq & food posts ,  retro video games,  and lots of funny cat videos.   I barely if ever see anything political at all.   
I guess the best way to avoid fascists living in the parents basement is for you not to be a fascist living in a basement?  The algorithm (ai?) are extremely smart so stop searching for that kind of crap and it will stop presenting it to you.    

This please.
Keep it on topic.

I like coming here in part for a break from the political posturing a back-biting on other sites. 
Can we stick to the topic and leave the rest at the door? I love Elon…I hate Elon…who gives a shot…
 

I like coming here in part for a break from the political posturing a back-biting on other sites. 
Can we stick to the topic and leave the rest at the door? I love Elon…I hate Elon…who gives a shot…
 

My counter point to this is that we were a tremendous Brady Oliveira season away from a LOT more criticism being leveled on Collaros. They had to adjust massively to try and keep the pocket clean and when it wasn't he struggled mightily. 

It wasn't just the Big Game where he looked like a deer in the headlights, forced throws, and lobbed it into traffic though. He threw for alot of yards and TDs this season but also a pile of picks and bad pick-6s. Compare Collaros's, pocket presence, calmness in the pocket, his vision, throwing velocity and accuracy with that of Dru Brown and you can see Zach is on the downswing and Brown is better. It happens to every QB. Brown has had tremendous mentorship in Winnipeg. Why would you let him get away? They have to figure out a way to sign him as the starter. If Buck leaves, promote Zach to OC (or give him a role like Calvillo in Montreal) and let Brown lead the charge.

Just one guy’s opinion but…
Hanging on to the ball too long…bad decisions…throwing an inordinate number of picks…getting happy feet
This, to me, reeks of a guy tightening up due to the pressure of the moment. Seems odd for a guy with that type of experience but the weight of the pressure to deliver/lead in the biggest moments can affect anyone. 
We’ve all been concerned about his head but maybe for the wrong reasons  
 

Good gravy, man…are you familiar with the notion of adding insult to injury??

Good gravy, man…are you familiar with the notion of adding insult to injury??