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1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Last year we netted 33 or so on punts. I believe Castillo could do that. With improved cover teams hopefully we are closer to 40. Directionally he's a bit inconsistent. But if it gives you another useful player on D for 20-25 snaps a game...potentially worth it.
Easy. And we wouldn’t have the probably 20+ shanks or ultra low yard boots we saw last year.
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32 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
That Canadian punter doesn't really exist. There'd be 9 teams chasing that player.
The only Canadian punter last year was Jake Julien. Everyone else was Aussie or import.
Could try Castillo.
Castillo is a fine punter. If you’re gonna have him kick off no point in carrying a punter imo. If we can get a really good global punter and kick off guy that’s solid.
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1 hour ago, Mike said:
I’m curious how we use our DI spots this year. Do we have a single one of our regular DI guys from last year signed currently?
Just Castillo I think. De/dt, db, wr/rb/kr are strong bets imo. We always love extra lbers too.
Karamoko has a good chance to be on the active roster as well. Which between ford and Kramdi means maybe no db. -
48 minutes ago, bluedawg said:
Haba is a fast and can bend. He can get after the quarterback pretty well. I don't think he replaces Jeffcoat by himself though. Jeffcoat was such an all-around player and was the perfect guy opposite Willie. As we know Willie isn't the best defneding the run!
I think they should rotate Haba with whichever rookie american looks the best of the camp guys. Could be Garbutt, Waggoner, the new guy Chauncey Rivers or someone not yet signed.
As far as DT I don't think there will be much drop off from Ricky Walker to either Fox Woods or K Randall. I read somewhere that Randall had been starting for the last two years in USFL and played damn good there after we cut him so maybe he's the guy.
The DL is gonna be a mystery but I don't think its in a bad spot
Or a ni/g. Hopefully we take a long look at that in the drafts. Could also look at kongbo who is still a fa. We also run a dt outside semi frequently.
I agree haba isn’t jj overall. Similar at getting after the passer but hard to be as good in the run soo early on.
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5 hours ago, 17to85 said:
With Jefferson and jeffcoat I'd suggest that you are wrong about them looking for several years...
Hansen the best global player we’ve seen, kongbo who went to and stuck in the nfl getting a pension, plus Habba and we’ve cut/traded talented pass rushers because we’ve had a lot jam.
3 hours ago, Noeller said:Also how could anyone say Habas results are mixed when he's hardly played due to the guys above him and also poor roster management not allowing for more bodies on the DL...??
Started out with a sack per game till he lost the spot to Jackson. Ended at a point where in a full season hed a had 9-10 sacks.
3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:And before last year they had guys like kongbo and Hansen taking effective reps at end so again, been looking for a couple years? I call bullshit. Last year they found haba who did alright for a rookie but don't forget he was hurt too and then didn't get on the roster because reasons.
I guess my point is... your point is bad and you should feel bad.
Plus our use of guys inside out like sayles and walker, then going back through the massive amount of dt talent we’ve found. Dl scouting isn’t a problem, next to db it’s probably been our best position of trying recruiting in the walters era.
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4 hours ago, Booch said:
I'm not overly concerned, but more curiuous as to how we go about the other end opposite WJ and how.who we use as rotation. Withe the Jackson stupidity now off the table thre is a good chance we can get back to a deeper rotation which will do wonders
We know we will be fine with WJ and likely Lawson as the main end and DT....If we choose to go with a canadian starter on dline,
Fox can be very good and isn't a raw rookie, and I ecpect Randall to rely push fo a spot and can be a big load in the middle, and as mentioned really like Woods...so roater allowing if we able to dress those 3...or 2 of the 3 we will be okay and have a way more active interior.
We know Haba can play and should only get better, but I still feel Garbutt is the better and may surprise coming out of camp....that being aid we may even dress 2 import ends to go with WJ....or 3 import interior guys, especially now with Ford back and the possibility he grabs a starters role in the secondary.
We have a few other real intruiging end prospects coming in as well, an hopefully we go defense heavy with our global picks as there are some actual ballers there this yr...so competion this yr is gonna be legit and real....and 1 yr out from a home cup appearance being a possibility is the perfect time to start the partial transition to young hungry talent....Camp should be very intersesting for sure
My main concern is on how we formulate the O-line and who we choose to use, and hopefully it's based on true talent, not a personal like/bias or the old reward system we have used in past yrs.....If guys like Schmeckle...Thomas....Bennett (if he doesn show massive improvement as his age now limits upside) Kolo and Kramdi (good role player and in-situ guy, but not a true front line starter) come out of camp as starters/hevy rotation guys we failed in the off-season, and will be again next spring trying to do an overhaul for 2025 possible home cup appearance. Wedefinately will be a younger, more hungry team, and will have a nice blend of vets...and youngsters
I’m not concerned with our ability to find play makers on the dl. It’s not the hardest spot to recruit and we’ve done it very well in the past, both with in the cfl from down south and in both drafts.
I just hope that we get unstuck from mediocre players and systems. I am encouraged by the moves this off season that this will improve as well.
Probably still have our usual “what’s he doing on the roster” guy. Hopefully not starting. Maybe it’ll be Schmekel.
It’s going to be interesting to see how the fifo crew manage with the largest amount of roster turn over yet.
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3 hours ago, Tracker said:
Cannot understand how McRae was kept around as long as he has been, unless he worked for minimum wage. He may be multi-talented ,but usually that means he isn't real good at anything at particular.
Talented guy with the ball in his hands. But one of those guys who doesn’t have a great way to get the ball with out taking away from Brady. Good change of pace back but we don’t split Carries.
And to be honest we can get better backs, he didn’t take the step he needed to as a pass catcher. It’s tough with that kind of hybrid talent. Lots of guys who are dynamic but not polished at any thing. -
3 minutes ago, Booch said:
Our QB stable is best in league.....people are under valuing Strev big time....and he got handed that "not a passer" tag really for no particular reason other than from what lapo tried to morph him into in his second yr...That signing is gonna prove to be huge.
Barriere as well is as legit a prospect coming to Canada as there has been in yrs...I was shocked we actually got him signed as heard he had quite a few camp prospects, but I think he took the Strev route and didn't wanna be a camp arm, with no real legit opportunity, and deal with NFL polotics...win win for us.
The beauty of this yr is this will help ZC immensely if not for the fact he is not gonna try to play outside himself like last year and have those forced errors...as he has a Legit guy now behind him chomping at the bit....and the heavy rotation we will see is also gonna add to his effectiveness
Havnt really went over the roter much as of late as have been back and forth from Cali, but looking forard to as some have mentioned what Thompson could bring, as well if Grant is not back Cruickshank, who is a lil more polished all around.
My guy tho who is under the radar and should be one to watch is Chris Smith....he's a legit as legit talent as we have brought up in yrs too, and can see him cracking the roster in some capacity...he is also a legit returner and was highly ranked as such for the NFL...legit break away speed and can be that multi tool guy that we tried to turn Mcrae into....But Smith is so much better.
Curious how we approach the global draft, as well as the CIS one...there are 2 legit dline guys in the global pool who I believe can step right in as a rotation piece, as well as contribute on teams...and I still have this feeling we are gonna do some draft day moves. This ys camp is gonna be interesting as there are jobs to be had, and actual talent brought in to take the spots, and possibly realy push some vets
Strev with buck is gonna be nuts. Plop didn’t use Strev with much creativity, he is just that dynamic a player. Team is gonna be a nightmare to prep for.
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11 minutes ago, Pete said:
interesting quote from draftdiamonds scouting report
Synopsis: Eric Barriere is a stronger quarterback prospect than fellow Eastern Washington quarterback Vernon Adams, who ultimately spent time playing in the CFL. While he may not project as a first round pick, he is the type of player that represents a strong value and investment on draft day. Barriere stands out as one of the top, if not the top, prospects in FCS football heading into the draft, and while he does have room to develop, he also showcases the work ethic necessary to grow. His best fit is on a team with an older established starter where he will have a season or two to learn the system before being thrust into a starting role, but his ceiling is not that of a career backup
He’s a beast. The best first year cfl prospect we have, and we have a bunch of guys who were on nfl rosters and very well thought of.
He should’ve gotten way more looks down south.- Piggy 1, rebusrankin and JohnnyAbonny
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19 hours ago, Mike said:
Added former UAB WR Myron Mitchell today
19 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:His story is similar to most of the signings this off season having gotten a look in the NFL and a spring league.
He got into 1 NFL game with the Vikings in 2021.
Fun fact: the Birmingham Stallions released Mitchell on the same day they cut Chauncey Rivers.
Really good pick up. He made a Vikings team that had a good group of WRs, as a wr. He was a good kr in college, but isn’t a kr that plays wr. He’s a wr that does kr for touches.
Great hands, attacks the ball and makes catches in the smallest windows. Great body control and balance.
https://m.facebook.com/UAB.Blazers/videos/myron-mitchell-top-5-catches-from-2019/599405780924055/
Itd be great if we carry two guys like that one as the 5th wr and one as a kr while being able to interchange them on both kr and the offence.
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3 hours ago, Tracker said:
I will be watching (and hoping) for LaBarriere to break out and be good enough that Streveler worries.
Easily the best qb prospect we’ve brought up since streveler and maybe the best prospect qb we’ve brought up from the us in atleast 20-25 years.
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9ol in the top 16. That bodes well for the league. Though I think as many as 5 of those will be nfl bound for now. That still is good for us who need to stock the cupboard but don’t necessarily need a body in camp this year. I think Duguay is better than the 7th best ol, but it is a strong top heavy group.
I’m thinking 2-3 of those guys never reach the cfl. A couple more could be 2-3 year waits as well.
Man it could be a huge power shift if a team can get 2-3 of those guys too. If I was a middling team I’d be trying to pack picks in the middle 1st to early 3rd to try and hoard some of those ol.
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22 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:
McInnes had surplanted Whitehead last season and was starting over him. Not an addition really. Stanback's best days are behind him. A healthy Stove is better than Baron but Stove hasn't been healthy since 2021. Lions will be missing Hatcher for most of next year and he was arguably their top WR.
To be fair, stove missed half of 2021 too. I love the guy but I’ve got no expectations for him. He’d be a flyer at this point far from a projectable starter.
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1 hour ago, bigg jay said:
Yep, plus it doesn't matter who they have in the backfield if they refuse to run the ball. It might balance their offense better on paper, but it doesn't mean much until BC shows they're willing to change their play calling.
True, though they have even more reason to go with a good pass pro back which Stan field isn’t.
Watching Hamilton and bc consistently go after washed backs is soo odd.1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:Dont the Argos have a PR person to rein this guy in? Kelly just cant help himself.
They haven’t been punished for not holding him back to date why start now.
2 hours ago, Goalie said:Jeffcoat is the only real loss. Grey wasn’t a starter. Houston was benched multiple times despite his picks. Walker isn’t really that big of a loss either and Bailey was the 5th receiver.
The difference this year with jeffcoat is we get him for 1/3 less of a season. A lot of opportunity to improve from the guys we moved on from. Dl is one of those spots that’s easy to find high quality imps at too.
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5 hours ago, Pete said:
Bc lost fewer players than we did and did a better job, for now. replacing them.
ie lost Betts > Robertson
Rhymes> Stanback (giving them more balance)
Whitehead .> Mcinnis
Edward -Cooper > Ciante Evans
Baron > Richardson
We were neck and neck with them in the standing most of the year, whether we repeat will depend on our recruiting
You think that’s a good job of replacing guys?
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2 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:
Probably the most intriguing set of prospects we’ve had since TC of 2021. Glad to see the front office isn’t thinking status quo. Finally some roster battles!
Seems like a lot of nfl experience among new guys too.
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8 hours ago, Mike said:
For whatever reason, I feel like I’d really lost sight of how many interesting prospects the Bombers brought in this off-season. Not too worried about the massive amounts of WR or DB, that’ll sort itself out with reps but I do appreciate some of these names … real high calibre guys being brought up here.
5 names to watch in my obviously incredibly educated opinion: WR KJ Hill, DE John Waggoner, DT Jamal Woods, DB Travon Fuller, DB Juan Lua
Bonus name, I think it’s a foregone conclusion he’s QB3: Eric Barriere
Bonus name if Janarion Grant doesn’t come back: WR Aron Cruickshank
7 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:Burmeister intrigues me. He was a decent QB at a fairly high level (ACC). Started for Oregon as a freshman so just on raw talent there's something there. He just converted to receiver with Rams last year. Kind of wondering if they are looking at him in both spots....or even just QB.
He must really have NFL dreams to come up here as a receiver because I have no doubt he could play QB in the UFL based on some of the guys playing there.
All great picks, and it seems like we’ve got a bumper crop of prospects this year.
For me the position battle to watch will be db/wr. We’ve got plenty of openings and it’s likely rookies will fill those spots. 1 starting wr, 1 kr, likely 2 dbs.
Here’s a few guys I think will be good watches and could have a big camp.
Ronnie brown. 5 11 185lbs dual threat rb who tore up d2. Also damn near made the bucks active roster couple years ago as tcf. Don’t know how he would/could be fit in, but I think he’s gonna go off on camp and pre season.
Db terrell bonds has a good chance to take one of the starting db spots. NFL experience, kick cover and kr experience, started in ufl very productive in college.vanterpool at T is a guy to watch in the replacement for bond. Played g and t, very highly regarded in the nfl for a bit, huge streak with out giving up a sack or taking a penalty with great size.
lber Michael Ayers, dominated d2 and has prototypical wil size and athleticism
Jordan Lewis is another prolific lower level de/wil tweener to watch.
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2 hours ago, Noeller said:
he's not leaving Winnipeg any time soon.... and you have to live in or around Toronto to have that gig, I think.
Nope, or his gig selling surgical stuff. He’s one of the most under utilized assets around Canadian football.
I do believe you are right and that the commish has to live in gta for head offices.
2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:Doug Brown as Commish. Not sure how well that would go over west of us given some of his comments.
I think bc would be good with it. Ssk honestly hates randy enough that they’d take Doug or wade happily. Bc I think would be good with him, Alberta wouldn’t like him but they are two dumpster fires with fractional fan bases rn.
pinball in reality would likely get the first shot at that job.
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3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:
Or Buono as the new Commish . . .
Wouldn’t say no to that.
2 hours ago, Brandon said:Can we have a commish that isn't 100 years old.
any one worth a damn would be nice in the short term. Long term though yeah. Some one who could do the job for 10+ years would be great.
2 hours ago, Rich said:Wade would be an interesting choice, but I don't want to lose him from the Bombers.
id make that sacrifice for the league. I’m not sure if wade would want it though.
2 hours ago, Noeller said:This. Needs to be someone in their mid 40s with some football and business experience.
Did cohon didn’t come with football experience. I’d be really open, we could take a sports business guy like him, or say victor cui, and pair him with a guy like Buono for a few years to bring them a long.
It’s been no secret that I’m but on cui, hed for sure be on my short list. A long with wade, pinball (out side of all this Kelly stuff) would be good. a huge sleeper pick he probably wouldn’t want it and no one out side of the bomber fan base would think it, but Doug brown would be a fantastic guy to groom for it. I could see Austin being in the mix, and huffer too.
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13 hours ago, Noeller said:
If it's true that the commish is dismissive of this and not taking it seriously, then I might just be joining the bandwagon calling for his head. That's inexcusable and good on the women who quit over it.
I wonder if this could be the final nail in his coffin sure as hell should be. The hypocrisy of the league trying to be progressive and inclusive plus coming down harder than before on creeps then acting like this is insane. Unless the league has some kind of hard evidence that this is all fabricated, wagons should start circling.
maybe the league could hire Buono to source and investigate candidates for a new comish lol
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15 hours ago, Booch said:
Don't get the soccer love either....boring as all heck...like living in Sask...and the images of guys flopping to the ground like a sniper drilled them from the nose bleeds is more than I can stomach...only reason it's considered most pop sport in world is because it's the cheapest to play and costs are minimal...hard pass for me
It’s like the worst parts of basketball and track combined with all the fun of watching paint dry, with the worst time keeping in history.
If kids are playing it that’s great, sports give a lot to those who play it. It’s a decent sport for cross training. But I can’t understand people who enjoy it.
Good for the gappers making a nice profit. They’re gonna need that money if they aren’t a play off team (and I don’t think they will be). The worm has turned in Regina and people will be as happy to see oday fired as they would be to win a bjb. More and more the sea of green is turning into browns fans with paper bags. Apathy is the most dangerous thing for a sports team. This generation has seen the riders win and it has no novelty any more. They aren’t gonna keep coming out to watch a crap team.
17 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:All the combine testing does is show who is serious about moving to the next level.
If you're an OL walking into a combine where you can't do 20 reps of 225....you're showing that you're not willing (or able) to do the work to be a pro. Now if you have tremendous film you'll probably get a chance to prove that wrong. If the film is meh, the testing is meh, the on field stuff is meh, you're done.
True. Especially since guys have started training to excel in just the tests.
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30 minutes ago, bluedawg said:
I am not just guessing here, I do know how it works. Not every single college team has a pro day, and many schools host combined pro days. It's VERY rare for D-II or lower programs to host their own pro day.
EVERY SINGLE pro day that a college hosts is run by the NFL team that is nearest to them. Even a tiny, small school pro day at a D-II would be run by at least 1 NFL scout from the designated team in that area.
Draft Scout dot com is THE SOURCE for all of the other websites that post pro day numbers. RAS and all the other publicly available metrics openly state that they get their numbers from Draft Scout because it's the only reliable public forum that gets pro day info straight from the NFL.
There is no such thing as an "official" time at a pro day because those numbers are hand-timed by NFL scouts. The only "official" times come from the NFL Combine. Any other "Pro days" or "Combines" that are not hosted by colleges with NFL scouts timing, excluding the CFL Combine, are not legitimate and would not be posted on a site like Draft Scout.
Hope this was helpful!
Some of that has been true in the past, and d2/3 have a combined combine day, however even most of those schools and colleges specially the d1 no longer allow grouping of out side players. This has been the case for almost 15 years now. More d2/3 schools have the pro days now that you’d think.
Ds is not the source, they draw their nfl prospect numbers from the nfl. They take fringe players numbers from all kinds of sources. That why you’ll see huge variances on some guys testing numbers and edits.
Ras ras also brings all kinds of spurious numbers in. And you can enter data and entrees.
Hand times are not reliable. even amongst those with amazing reflexes and expert level execution. I’ve personally seen manual times of professionals range from sub 4.2 to high 4.3 on the same pass. Guys who have never broken 4.5 suddenly running low 4.3s. Doesn’t matter who is timing it when it’s manual.
2023/2024 Blue Bombers Off-Season Thread (BRADY’S BACK! DALTON’S BACK!)
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Hell yeah.
Last year was easily the worst performing sts unit (sans k) we’ve seen under an mos team. It was nuts how much field position we gave away each game when trading punts/kick offs.
For sure the janky scheme was part of it.
He seemed on board with in early talking about how we were trying some thing different. He has stepped in before to force adjustments on D. Idk maybe he wanted to give enough rope or maybe he thought it could work. Mos will give you all the rope you could ever want to build a noose. Takes a long time to finally hang but it does happen.
we also didn’t do any fakes save for the horrific on side punt attempt. We used to keep teams on their toes last year we got real long in the tooth.
I think we will see a very different attitude and play style on both teams and D.