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The point of the lockdown was to take those 30 to 49 year olds who have Covid and stop them from spreading it to people who are more vulnerable. Since Covid is so much more infectious that other things (like the flu), that was why the lockdown was required. As has been missed by many over and over again, it's not that Covid is extra deadly, it's that Covid is extra infectious. The more people who get infected, the more you put more vulnerable people at risk.

I can absolutely believe this, and I'll tell you why. As most of you know by now, I'm a Hutterite. We are sort of the perfect test case for the spreading of germs. We eat communally three times daily (buffet style), we sit just a few feet apart in church, and when it comes to the children, there literally is no separation at any time. Now, when schools closed on March 23, we all started eating at home, one person from each family went to get food, and this was coordinated so that we had low numbers of people in the kitchen at any given time. School was online / home school and church was over the public address system. People from other communities could not visit us, and vice versa. During March and April, which tend to still be prime cold and flu season due to weather and temperature variations - can you guess what happened? I'm sure you can - colds and flus were (and still are) drastically reduced, almost non - existent. We probably won't be able to maintain these practices indefinitely, but some of them will certainly stay in place.

You're #1, you’re #1..

To understand why there are protests, one should probably frame it this way: people are literally risking their lives by putting themselves into situations where they know they not only risk becoming infected, but also risk spreading the virus because the U.S. has reached a breaking point in their treatment of people of colour. I suspect very few protesters think they are immune to the virus, but are willing to risk the health of themselves or others for the cause. Protests have picked up around the world because this problem is not unique to America. I was at the Legislature on Friday and my eyes told me that 98-99% of people were wearing masks. Those not wearing masks were approached by volunteers who offered them masks. I was pleasantly surprised. I wore an N95 out of added caution. For those crying hypocrisy regarding closures and protests - you don't understand the nature of protest. You need permits for demonstrations, but you don't need them for protests. Any attempt at shutting down a protest tends to go badly, especially when the majority recognizes the validity of the protests. This is not unique to our present situation. Without a doubt, the infection numbers will spike as a result of these protests. We saw infections in the Michigan armed goon protests, so why won't we see them now? Every revolution carries risk. This one just has a really unique one in the form of COVID-19.

Speak for yourself....

Cuz... circumstances don't ever change... ? Besides, this is the right thing to do. What would your reaction be if he skipped out on this? I doubt you would be understanding. Not a huge JT fan, but he got this one right.

nobody, anywhere in North America, at any point, has been in a lockdown. That's a dog-whistle term for some people concerned about their "rights". Italy had a lockdown...police/army in the streets making sure nobody leaves their home. The fact that some people think what we've been going through is a "lockdown" shows just how privileged we really are.

As another way of looking at police violence, an ER nurse posted that they see intoxicated, confused, angry and violent people every day day and haven't killed one of them. A bit of an oversimplification, but a good point nonetheless.

I've been thinking about this a lot and while we in the USA point fingers at bad cops, I think that failure in civilian leadership is a huge part of the root cause. The USA prioritizes heroes over caretakers. This means that as every other social service has been defunded, cop departments have gotten fatter and fatter and have taken on responsibilities that are really not responsibilities that call for heroic armed response. Like a wellness check. You're worried about the senior next door, the person you send shouldn't be armed unless that senior is setting up a sniper nest. You got a jumper ready to jump off a bridge? Response doesn't need to be armed. You got a traffic accident or a speeding ticket? Response doesn't need to be armed. Anyone from the lowest sinner to the saintliest saint is going to get cynical when they're asked to do an impossible job. A modern American big-city cop has to be a social worker, EMT, a peacekeeper, and a peacemaker, a dozen other things. That's too many goddamn jobs. And the cynicism that rightfully evolves from that is a great place for bad bad **** -- from roided out Spartan thin blue line cops to white supremacy -- to grow. And note that domestics, esp. violent ones, are a special ******* nightmare, because those are at a really hard intersection of social work and public safety work. Got no answer for that. So yeah, we gotta weed out some bad hombres in the police department -- but we also have to change the job description. I do want the state to have the ability to confront people who are armed and who are hurting civilians. But I don't want the state armed response agency to be the single universal number to call when there's something going on that's a little weird or unusual -- or when someone runs a stop sign.

Is it new cfl content? Just hook it too my vein!!!!!

I tried to make this point to my boss about Work From Home. It doesnt have to be a thing we do every 100 years. I believe sick time has been drastically reduced for the reasons of less cold/flus and also parents being home if they have a sick child and honestly, those days you feel like you just cant go in...well, working from home makes it easier. Speaking of Hutterites Im not sure I should be surprised but when I got to the rally it was cool seeing a group of Hutterites there with signs protesting for the cause. It immediately became clear the cross section of people of various ethnicities and cultures that were there.

I agree. But its a sign of the issues coming to a head. People exaggerate. And I think its a legitimate frustration. Its like a negotiation. If you tell the dealership the price you're willing to pay he will counter higher. People saying Ef the Police, get rid of them altogether...they're angry and frustrated. Police have LONG needed reform I interacted with police a lot over the years and it always blew my mind that highly paid officers would sit around for a couple of hours doing witness statements. Seems like an easy thing to off load on civilians trained in note taking/witness questioning or cadets. Winnipeg has (or did) one of the largest per population forces in Canada but Ive seen so many calls where 5 or 6 cars respond and they're all "off line" dealing with something that doesnt require them all. In one case, I heard a call over the ready for a serious incident and for available cars in the area to respond. No one at my incident did. Two minutes later, dispatch specifically called an officer on scene and asked if he and partner could respond and he replied no, busy. The worst thing to happen to police forces was unions. Or at least, modern police forces. Its all about increasing salaries, increasing complement. And if 80% of calls are not traditional law enforcement, what the fack are we paying cops for? Compare a cop with a social worker in terms of education and salary and workload. Compare to nurses. I know many good cops. But police reform as been badly needed for a long time.

it's just pointless chatter, but I'll take it...

and the wind was blowing in the right direction....

No new probable cases of COVID-19 (coronavirus) were reported in Manitoba on Saturday or Sunday, leaving the provincial total at...

Oh brother..feeble-minded Trump believes he’s responsible for the quiet weekend of tempered protesting. He’s trying to take credit for the good will of peaceful law abiding citizens. Many will swallow it, but right now, I feel like retching..

Will be fascinating to watch.

Yeah, I checked MInnesota's stats... there's no wave, no spike - maybe its still coming but you are talking out of your *** currently 1197 deaths - of those 995 deaths are in nursing homes... 550 of those deaths are over 90 (41 over 100) The same statistics as everywhere... just unreal how people can deny this is a 'nursing home disease' when all the data points directly towards that

Thank God we have a poster or two here who are so consumed with the health of the global economy. Now I dont have to worry about it and I can just be concerned about the health of humans.

Okay then let the CFL play.

Man accused of driving his truck into a Virginia protest is an ‘admitted KKK leader’: prosecutor In Henrico County, Virginia, 36-year-old Harry H. Rogers was arrested on Sunday for allegedly driving his truck into a crowd of nonviolent George Floyd protestors — and according to prosecutor Shannon Taylor, Rogers is a high-ranking member of the Ku Klux Klan. Justin Mattingly of the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports that Taylor, in an official statement, asserted: “While I am grateful that the victim’s injuries do not appear to be serious, an attack on peaceful protesters is heinous and despicable — and we will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. The accused, by his own admission and by a cursory glance at social media, is an admitted leader of the Ku Klux Klan and a propagandist for Confederate ideology.” https://www.alternet.org/2020/06/man-accused-of-driving-his-truck-into-a-virginoa-protest-is-an-admitted-kkk-leader-prosecutor/

In a modelling study of lockdown impact in 11 countries, Imperial College London scientists say COVID-19 restrictions and school closures imposed starting in March may have prevented 3 million deaths in Europe. http://cbc.ca/1.5602984

We live in a time and place where there is still a flat earth society, anti-vaxers, and about 100 million people still think that Trump is doing a good job. Still convinced that there are not many who are deliberately ignorant?

I hate to pile on, but this is simply not true. It's a nursing home issue, it's a health worker issue, it's a meat packing plant issue, it's a poverty issue, it's a homeless issue etc. etc. I don't know if anyone has heard the term "long-haulers" yet, but it's a group of people who have suffered with symptoms too mild for hospital treatment, but too severe to function on a day to day basis - for weeks and months. Because they haven't been hospitalized (or in some cases, diagnosed), the statistics don't include them. COVID-19 Can Last for Several Months The disease’s “long-haulers” have endured relentless waves of debilitating symptoms—and disbelief from doctors and friends. Story by Ed Yong JUNE 4, 2020 Editor’s Note: The Atlantic is making vital coverage of the coronavirus available to all readers. Find the collection here. For vonny leclerc, day one was March 16. Hours after British Prime Minister Boris Johnson instated stringent social-distancing measures to halt the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, LeClerc, a Glasgow-based journalist, arrived home feeling shivery and flushed. Over the next few days, she developed a cough, chest pain, aching joints, and a prickling sensation on her skin. After a week of bed rest, she started improving. But on day 12, every old symptom returned, amplified and with reinforcements: She spiked an intermittent fever, lost her sense of taste and smell, and struggled to breathe. When I spoke with LeClerc on day 66, she was still experiencing waves of symptoms. “Before this, I was a fit, healthy 32-year-old,” she said. “Now I’ve been reduced to not being able to stand up in the shower without feeling fatigued. I’ve tried going to the supermarket and I’m in bed for days afterwards. It’s like nothing I’ve ever experienced before.” Despite her best efforts, LeClerc has not been able to get a test, but “every doctor I’ve spoken to says there’s no shadow of a doubt that this has been COVID,” she said. Today is day 80. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/06/covid-19-coronavirus-longterm-symptoms-months/612679/

Twisting oneself into a pretzel to basically say "its just the flu, should never have closed anything, so what if old people die" is really a poor use of ones time. Especially using hindsight as if it's foresight. Not tagging anyone specific. Just sayin' 😉

AG Barr knew Lafayette Square protestors were peaceful: DC National Guard member President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr have drawn widespread criticism for the president’s actions on Monday, June 1, when Washington, D.C. police violently removed nonviolent protestors from Lafayette Square in order to clear a path for the president to make a speech and enjoy a photo-op at St. John’s Episcopal Church nearby. Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton, a Democrat, was briefed on the events by a member of the D.C. National Guard — and according to New York Times reporter Kenneth Vogel, the takeaway is that Barr was told the protestors were peaceful. https://www.alternet.org/2020/06/ag-barr-knew-lafayette-square-protestors-were-peaceful-dc-national-guard-member/

It’s just fascinating to me that Trump wanting you get re-elected is not about serving his country, it’s about him trying to stay out of a heap of trouble one you goes back to being a private citizen while he, his administration and his family loot and pillage the country.

Demonstrating empathy isn't usually excessive and people feeling bad when other people die can't be assumed unfortunately. I didn't really read anyone specifically joking about someone dying for a haircut but I might have missed it. Maybe citing stats doesn't seem cold to you but if you don't preface it with some sort context it can come across as cold to others. But that may not be an issue for you in how others see that.

It is 2 sets of rules. For all to see. For people like me & others who innocently lost their jobs, livelihoods, careers & businesses & in good faith have self isolated & social distanced in good faith to protect myself, family & others it feels like a slap in the face. These measures were put in placed to protect society & then suddenly it was ok to protest & ignore everything that has been done. Why should I now listen to anything my Province's Chief Medical Officer says?

Maybe don’t assume people know you care about other people’s well being and preface your statement with ‘my condolences to anyone who has lost a loved one due to Covid 19 but (insert your above statement). As you said to me, you don’t like when people project what you maybe thinking. Is that fair and reasonable?

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Well, that’s perfect. Trump has provided a canvas for all the people he hates to post everything he’s afraid of and despises. Trump......... *

The BLM movement was a long time in coming. It’s unfortunate it has to have happened at any time, but it could be a dangerous time for all involved. But, it is better to have happened after flattening the curve than before or during its peak. You're right though, there would have been WAY more trouble had the world tried to stop these protests while they were playing out.

I think they basically just decided that #BLM protests were too important and they didn’t want to deal with the optics of shutting them down. I think they’re rolling the dice on this one.

I don't think the beach should be opened myself *if* they are banning sporting events and local businesses from having everyone come in as well. Personally I think they should open it all or close it all... you can't give exceptions regardless of the cause.

He’ll take credit for that and he will take credit for bringing attention to the BLM movement because of the ratings. Look at the ratings. They’re perfect. No one as ever done as much for the African Community then I have. Lame stream media never reports that.

IMO If the city is allowing a protest then ALL business should be allowed to re-open. You can't pick and choose when a virus and the health of the public is applicable. The 15 000 folks at the leg choose to be selfish and if they are allowed to neglect being responsible then why should the rest of the province need to follow the rules? Or should the protest organizers also be fined heavily like local businesses for not following orders? You can cut your hair from home, you can also protest from home.

With a bunch of gullibles in tow....

Got a source for that? Seeing the outbreaks in places like high river tell me it is highly contagious.

No he is just a liar. Garbage in a human suit.

There’s no room for rational thought right now - stop this nonsense

Fascist state

Solidly based on, what I called yesterday, “after the fact” data. Based after something has happened. It’s easier that way.