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  1. Whitehead is 180 lbs speed guy who can't run routes, has average hands and doesn't play through contact. Whitehead has exactly one skill. Streveler is 230 lbs, runs sub 4.4 40 and is a football player. He willed the Bombers to wins against the other top two teams in the West this season. We're talking about a guy who has the athletic ability and the intangibles. Everybody in the world knows what's coming and he can run through and past a defense that knows exactly what he's going to do. That's a freak.
    5 points
  2. he just couldn't make Chicken salad out of chicken poo...
    4 points
  3. Strev is the perfect size and type for the CFL... he will be back.... with the Blue .... and will dominate It just might take a season or two to get there!
    2 points
  4. Jesus Christ....gimme a TL/DR for that ****.....
    2 points
  5. Agree. That's why I don't think you're going to see a run on NFL teams trying to replicate this. Do you think you could convince a coach like Mike Zimmer to use up a roster spot for a gimmick player who is going to throw one pass, catch one pass, maybe make one run per game, over a rotational DE or DB? Who also can step in for injuries? No chance.
    2 points
  6. It's getting a lot less black and white as it becomes more of a speed and deception game. Realize the Wildcat came from Arkansas then Urban Meyer's time at Florida then through the NFL. That was happening long before the CFL picked up on having those gadget plays with RPO and different guys taking snaps. The NFL like every level is looking for guys that are multiple. Every team has at least one guy that basically can't be classified between tailback/receiver/TE/FB. And now they are adding guys who have QB skills but also those athletic skills to carry the ball and run routes. Teams are winning by relying on those types of players. Look at the final four, Tennessee and San Fran are not running a typical offense at all. Tennessee is running an option offense that Streveler would be perfect for, look at how many snaps they are running with what we used to call "wingbacks" in front of Henry. San Fran is running a modified West Coast that basically has no outside receiving threat, their best wideout is essentially a tailback who often runs routes from inside the tackles and their best overall receiver is an H-Back. Dime a dozen QB's who athletically are at the top of their draft class? You're going to be hard pressed to find a QB with anywhere near the passing success Streveler had in NCAA as well as the measurables, then add on what he's done here. There are some pure option/RPO guys that might run as fast, but not a single one like him as a total package. A football player who is willing to be a football player and has trained his whole life as a QB, huge football IQ. A team is going to roster him to run certain packages. Hill is the blueprint. He's gradually been integrated into the offense more and more. First season he's mostly chasing kicks. On the PR doesn't dress until game 13. Next season he's returning kickoffs, running an option set as QB with Brees on the field as well and playing H-Back. This season he's gradually worked into the offense more as an H-Back, still taking snaps in some sets but playing almost half of the offensive snaps as an H-Back/slot receiver. More and more NFL teams are operating redzone option/RPO packages similar to what Lapo ran successfully with Streveler here. Even if Streveler doesn't end up developing the receiving abilities Hill has he's hugely useful carrying the ball and running the option package. To me Green Bay is the perfect fit for Streveler in terms of how he would compliment Rodgers and that offense. If I'm Streveler or his agent I'm avoiding Arizona as their starting QB is an option guy, Miami and Tampa it's hard to say who their starter next season will be and what that would mean for a guy like Streveler in terms of being that compliment. Really I'd be looking for an opening similar to the role he played here with the starter being more of a pocket guy where he could run a separate package.
    2 points
  7. Regarding league cancers. We need more John Hufnagels & Kyle Walters & less Chris Jones & Roy Shivers types running teams. The CFL has to be more professional than it is with upper management.
    2 points
  8. ACtually Strev is not 230....he is about 220 on a heavy day...and doesnt run a sub 4,40...his make up is a dime a dozen in the U.S....And many are slightly more polished...even the ones coming out of top NCAA programs even though Strev has 2 years of pro experience...he may get a sniff....but be hard pressed to make an active roster there and doubt wants to bounce around on PR's...he has already said that He also has never played teams...and sure he can learn but why would a team roster him for that and have him learn on the fly, and not be very proficient at it when they have umpteen other prospects to choose from who can do it..and do it well
    2 points
  9. johnzo

    US Politics

    I'm still waiting to learn where all those millions of illegal voters voted in 2016
    2 points
  10. I kind of agree. I think 13 episodes would actually be better, and also, I wish they would stop doing the "whole season is one big story arc" thing. I'd prefer if they had a larger story arc, but also had mini arcs in each episode so we could explore the galaxy more. It makes rewatching the episodes more enjoyable because you can just watch one episode. Whereas this whole season is one story is annoying since it's like on big long 10 hour movie. And they're doing that will all shows nowadays which is kind of annoying. And the long hiatus in between is even more irritating.
    2 points
  11. More like nobody's opinion is that important to take up that much of my time....
    1 point
  12. Wow, are you bucking to be Streveler's agent? So much "fact" spinning here. As much as some say the NFL game is evolving, the traditional approach is to have a QB who is "pass first, run if necessary". NFL may want athletes with multiple skills at other positions, but for a QB they want someone who can throw the ball. Look at the all-time greats in the NFL since the 1980's and the introduction of the more dynamic ("west coast" offence): Fouts, Marino, Montana, Moon, Kelly, Manning, Brady, Brees, Aikman, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Warner. All those with staying power were pocket passers who could scramble if needed but by and large were good because of their arm and ability to read the field, not because of their legs. Even the most mobile of them - Favre and Elway, were recognized more for their passing stats than their running stats. And the best of the "running" QBs, Steve Young, only became top tier after he learned to be a pinpoint pocket passer and utilize the weapons around him (cough, Jerry Rice) rather than do it on his own. Russell Wilson seems to be evolving into this as well, and Patrick Mahomes is successful because he can throw with the best of them. QBs who have lived mainly off the run are typically flash in the pan types, who burst on the scene with a lot of hype and promise to "change the game" with never before seen skills, only to fade away once teams learn to defend their running and force them to pass, proving they can't do it well enough to last. Steve McNair, Randall Cunningham (who may have been the best passer of this group), Michael Vick, Tim Tebow, Colin Kaepernick, and now Lamar Jackson are the flavour of the month, but how many of them (the best of the best of the running QBs) lasted playing that style once teams caught on to how to defend them? Look what Tennessee did to Jackson this past week by simply spying him with an extra safety. As for this year's final 4 in the NFL, where is the running QB (as opposed to the QB who can put up 350 yards passing) in that mix? Not in San Fran (where the tailback is their best receiver, hmmm, lots of check down passes in a successful offence, imagine that), definitely not in Green Bay, not even in KC (Mahomes can scramble better than most, but he is winning with his arm and his reads more than by running an option style offence). Tennessee is winning on the back of a running back playing out of his mind right now and a defence creating huge turnovers in the playoffs. As for your second paragraph, lots of BS hyperbole to unpack here: Dime a dozen QB's who athletically are at the top of their draft class? Really? Top of the draft class? Streveler was a division 2 (now called 1AA) QB, let's not overlook that little nugget. Given the 100+ division 1A QB's out there, I'd be comfortable calling him a dime a dozen. You're going to be hard pressed to find a QB with anywhere near the passing success Streveler had in NCAA (again, division 2. That's like comparing the MJHL scoring leader to the CHL scoring leader) as well as the measurables, then add on what he's done here. His completion percentage was 66.6%, which sounds good until you look at the other starters who averaged 3-5% better than him for the most part - he was 9th out of 12 QBs with 175 or more attempts. He threw 8 TDs to 14 INTs. Intercepted on 6% of his passes, last for QBs with 175 or more attempts, and 1.5% worse than the next guy, Dominique Davis. His interception % was 39th of the 43 CFL QBs who threw any passes at all last year. His QB rating was 72.0, 11th out of 12 for 175+ attempts and 30th overall - only Davis was behind him at 71.7 for high throwing QBs, the average for the 12 was 96.8, and the 10 ahead of Streveler and Davis averaged 101.8. Passing-wise, Streveler was sub-par at the CFL level. And once teams here figured out how to spy him, the Bombers started losing games. 4-8 as a starter over 2 years. So you want him to become a running back in the NFL? At 6'1 and 217 lbs? Dude is a long way off from having the skills to compete at the NFL level IMO. There are some pure option/RPO guys that might run as fast, but not a single one like him as a total package. See my earlier stats about his passing ability - hardly "the whole package". A football player who is willing to be a football player and has trained his whole life as a QB, huge football IQ. Football IQ based on his out-of-college scouting report? The eye test this year in how he read defences and didn't go past his first read often would suggest his IQ needs work. A team is going to roster him to run certain packages. Hill is the blueprint. Again, this is not really what NFL teams build their QB position around historically, and their are QBs with better college pedigrees in Division 1A than him. Average NFL linebackers come in at 6'2" and 245 lbs. DEs are 6'4", 279 lbs. DTs at 6'3", 309 lbs. (source: https://webpages.uidaho.edu/~renaes/251/HON/Student PPTs/Avg NFL ht wt.pdf) Average CFL LBs are 6'1", 224 lbs. DEs are 6'3", 250 lbs. DTs are 6'3", 289 lbs. DLs (not specified) are 6'3", 267 lbs. (source: www.cfl.ca) Streveler won't bowl over defensive players of that size quite as easily. Hey, good luck to the guy, but's let's not go overboard selling him as this phenom who is the next big thing in the NFL who all teams are clamoring for.
    1 point
  13. I watched some of Vikings v. Saints, Taysom Hill threw a touchdown pass, that was probably the worst floater I've seen in either league. lucky for him that the coverage was completely blown, the receiver had to wait a fair while for the rainbow to arrive. He's not an NFL or CFL qb if that was the best he can do. Just a giant guy who will do anything they ask. Kind of another Tebow. Way too much being made of that guy. just typical American hoopla. small field, tiny openings to complete passes.... not going to work for Chris at this point. And I can imagine the avalanche of bullshit that flows their way when guys like him are being checked out. Anyway, good luck to him, hope he makes it for his sake. just saw Sayles listed on Vikings roster.... salary five hundred thousand US.
    1 point
  14. Mark F

    US Politics

    "Zontar" : "three-eyed, bat-winged alien from Venus , a skeletal black creature that has a hidden agenda." "it begins causing local power outages that stop telephones, automobiles and even running water from working, and it starts taking control of people's minds using flying lobster-like "injecto-pods" that sprout from its wings." At least he got his choice of moniker right!
    1 point
  15. blue_gold_84

    US Politics

    At least you continue to positively contribute to this discussion. Oh, wait... Just more whining about "progressives"... You keep using that word when you evidently have no clue what it means. Here's hoping the Ti-Cats go another 20 years without winning anything - simply because of your stupid comments in this thread.
    1 point
  16. Conceivably he could...but if he wants to develop as a true QB....Like he has mentioned, and gets a decent deal up here in a QB1B range salary wise, he would develop more...most likely make more than the minimum PR salary in NFL (if you are on it for full season is 136k)...which equates to about 175k Canadian....many times too an NFL team drops pr guys for a week or 2...puts them back on...so you aren't even guaranteed the full season amount....he would toil in obscurity, with little fanfare adoration, where in Canada would be front and center and considewred a rock star...
    1 point
  17. Well first off anyone wanting to work in Canada who is not a Canadian requires a visa to do so, essentially approval from the Federal Government to work in Canada. There are programs in certain industries that allow more foreign workers but in general it is pretty difficult to hire someone who isn't Canadian into the labour market unless it can be shown it is necessary. Thus the question on every job application/in every interview...are you legally entitled to work in Canada?
    1 point
  18. I don't believe Streveler is able to participate in workouts yet, he's still recovering from what sounded like ankle surgery.
    1 point
  19. Kassian: He needs to answer the bell. He’s a *****. Tkachuk: Stay of the tracks if you don’t want to get hit. lol
    1 point
  20. 𝗗𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗻 𝗕𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 @DarrinBauming The #Bombers have added 6’5” 256lb defenesive end Justin Alexandre @BigJust90 , according to the CFL Transaction wire. Alexandre spent time with the NY Jets as an undrafted free agent in 2019 out of the University of the Incarnate Word. 9:52 PM · Jan 13, 2020 from Winnipeg, Manitoba·Twitter for iPhone
    1 point
  21. One thing that bothers me about Chris's tryouts....how is he performing at a 100 per cent and really showing his abilities to a prospective team down south....We know he was hobbled and you would think that this is still hampering him some what...Would an nfl team sign him and hope ....just go by video clips of his game up here....If I was management of a club wanting to sign him I would definitely be ...just say a little tenuous without seeing him at his best up close and personal before inking him to big dollars...Just curious
    1 point
  22. I think a lot of guys think he's massive like how Sellers was.... he's to small to play FB/TE but also to big to play RB. His only chance would be at receiver in which he would also be extremely raw. People forget that the NFL really is black and white with their guys unlike the CFL. They will not modify the offense like LaPo for a guy like Strev.
    1 point
  23. Football player.
    1 point
  24. Where does Taysom Hill fit in? He fits in like that. New Bombers QB Chris Streveler has off the charts athleticism Justin Dunk 2 years ago Chris Streveler is an athletic freak. He’s turned in a 4.45-second 40-yard dash, posted a 38.5-inch vertical, and fired off a 10-foot, five-inch broad jump – all at six-foot-two, 209 pounds. Each of the three testing results would have been top among all quarterbacks who attended the 2018 NFL Combine. But take the QB position designation away for a second, and those numbers would be high among any skill position group – and they are certainly elite for signal callers. vs Hill showed impressive athletic ability at BYU's pro day. His 40-yard dash of 4.44 seconds and 38.5-inch vertical jump would have finished first among all participating quarterbacks at the 2017 NFL Combine, beating Texas A&M's Trevor Knight's 4.54-second 40-yard dash and 35.5-inch vertical.[22]m Also, Streveler actually played TE/WR in college, which Hill did not do.
    1 point
  25. Great post, Just goes on & on.
    1 point
  26. Mark F

    US Politics

    it's all on that server in the Ukraine!!! That was hidden in the Pizza restaurant where Hilary executed someone, while selling uranium to a Russian! Best part about being an internet forum crank like our friend Zontar is, you never need to explain, or give credible sources for anything, For someone like Zontar, stuff like that doesn't matter at all.
    1 point
  27. Wanna-B-Fanboy

    US Politics

    ??? I don't even know where to start with this dog barf. how does the second quote relate to the first one? I feel like I am taking crazy pills...
    1 point
  28. He is actually is that freakish in his abilities as he can throw, catch, and run.
    1 point
  29. The NFL is loaded with athletes though, he's not *that* freakish in his athletic abilities. If it was all about being a great athlete then Whitehead would still be in the NFL.
    1 point
  30. As well,,,does Streveler want to play another position orrrr is/was his dream always to be the guy behind centre ...I know some will say ...hey it's the money man BUT what is going on in Chris's mind ..especially if it means his dream of being a no 1 quarterback will most likely elude him down south...If the nfl looks at him as nothing more than a glorified running back, maybe that's something he will have to come to grips with...Could he become a very well paid qb. in our league eventually (reilly money) or is the draw of mega money down south just too strong...His decision and one I'm sure that has crossed his mind
    1 point
  31. Jpan85

    2019-20 CFL Offseason

    Got to give credit to the Bomber coaches for getting Hansen in half a season to a level where he could contribute to the team in a very meaningful way.
    1 point
  32. Mark F

    2019-20 CFL Offseason

    no Canadians? no thanks. might as well just watch NFL.
    1 point
  33. What MOS was supposed to say, one supposes: “I don't think he’ll be ready to play. It’s been well documented that his throwing shoulder is screwed, and since his last lower body injury, Matt has the mobility of a fence post. He may never be able to perform at a high level ever again.”
    1 point
  34. Ah yes Clark sucks, Labatte has been washed up for four years, Bladek is overrated, Fajardo is a backup, Judge is a hack, their DBs are jerks, WillieJ is a showboater - oh wait forget that last one...
    1 point
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